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Is Trump a Racist?

Is Trump a Racist?

  • Yes

    Votes: 56 61.5%

  • No

    Votes: 32 35.2%

  • Other explain

    Votes: 3 3.3%
  • Total voters
    91
  • Poll closed .
HennyBogan said:
He sure needs another speech writer, overall his policies have helped black people. I do believe a lot of the BLM mob are actually not black people and are white leftist nutters intent on chaos.
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I think Trump's speech writer is working out just fine..angers the left just enough for sane people to see what the left is, the left exposes itself in all its "glory". I'm British so I know for a fact that the British left is deeply unAmerican...now Americans know that their own leftists are deeply unAmerican... there's a pattern emerging here.

The left pisses on everything the USA stands for, wake up and smell the ****ing coffee.
 
Big Eye said:
I think Trump's speech writer is working out just fine..angers the left just enough for sane people to see what the left is, the left exposes itself in all its "glory". I'm British so I know for a fact that the British left is deeply unAmerican...now Americans know that their own leftists are deeply unAmerican... there's a pattern emerging here.

The left pisses on everything the USA stands for, wake up and smell the ****ing coffee.
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America stands, and has always stood, for basic human rights and free trade, and against systematic discrimination, fear-mongering, isolationism, dictatorship, suppression of free speech, and war.

What dies the right stand for?
 
Big Eye said:
Racism and sexism are tropes of the left that are completely running out of steam. Once you accuse all whites of being racist and all men of being sexist your accusations run out of power rapidly. You can't insult vast swathes of humanity and remain popular. The left is finished, this leftist bloom is their ending...even dullards can see what the left has become .
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I'm not accusing vast swathes of people of anything I'm saying Trump is a racist and sexist because he is.
 
Big Eye said:
I think Trump's speech writer is working out just fine..angers the left just enough for sane people to see what the left is, the left exposes itself in all its "glory". I'm British so I know for a fact that the British left is deeply unAmerican...now Americans know that their own leftists are deeply unAmerican... there's a pattern emerging here.

The left pisses on everything the USA stands for, wake up and smell the ****ing coffee.
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I vote Liberal Democrat and I'm from Bedfordshire (I may as well not bother voting as the conservatives win here every time) and I'm not anti-American.
I think the US has problems and needs to change as does the UK but there's a difference between that and hating America.
Why would I be on an American politics forum if I hated America?
I find American politics more interesting than UK politics which went into suicide mode when it decided to give Brexit a try.
 
rickc said:
Well is there any question about it after his speech at Mount Rushmore?
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Hard to say. In order to be a racist, one has to at least believe in something. I'm not so sure Trump believes in anything outside of his ego. Trump's history is one of complete callousness and offensive disregard for sentiment. And given the way he quickly defaults to denigrating the military and its members, he has no idea or care what actual patriotism is. But he does know what makes the simple mind of his base tick.

His history for planting stories about himself in the media, his push to make a reality show a true representation of himself, and his need to hide what his tax returns, suggests that his sole purpose in life is to provide the masses a mere illusion of himself. He hides behind a mountain of non-disclosure agreements for fear that the world will see him for what he is...and empty shell seeking affection. He can't even create a marriage without buying one.

Trump bumbled into the White House on a wave of political extremism and his nonsensical rhetoric along the way earned him adoration form people starving for an identity. And today he continues to pander to that pathetic base because even his re-election campaign has no idea how to sell him. Thus, he defaults to xenophobia and portrays conservatives as victims of "the left" who need a hero. In the meantime, he is the biggest flip-flopper in recent memory, which provides even more evidence of how little he believes in even his own crap. I hear he's OK with masks now. And didn't he hold up the Bible as a political trinket a couple weeks ago? His only real fear has to be that one day his base might pull their heads out of their asses and tire of being led onto extremist limbs, only to be abandoned there.

Trump's entire life is one big caricature, from trophy wives to exaggerated business success. He is constantly looking to be accepted, from trying to push into elitist circles that don't like him to buying his way into Veterans Day parades in New York. Now, he plays the obtuse fool for the obtuse masses from the White House.

So, racist? Hard to actually know what the man believes. If declaring the sun green would earn him some applause, the idiot would throw paint at the sky for an encore.
 
MSgt said:
Hard to say. In order to be a racist, one has to at least believe in something. I'm not so sure Trump believes in anything outside of his ego. Trump's history is one of complete callousness and offensive disregard for sentiment. And given the way he quickly defaults to denigrating the military and its members, he has no idea or care what actual patriotism is. But he does know what makes the simple mind of his base tick.

His history for planting stories about himself in the media, his push to make a reality show a true representation of himself, and his need to hide what his tax returns, suggests that his sole purpose in life is to provide the masses a mere illusion of himself. He hides behind a mountain of non-disclosure agreements for fear that the world will see him for what he is...and empty shell seeking affection. He can't even create a marriage without buying one.

Trump bumbled into the White House on a wave of political extremism and his nonsensical rhetoric along the way earned him adoration form people starving for an identity. And today he continues to pander to that pathetic base because even his re-election campaign has no idea how to sell him. Thus, he defaults to xenophobia and portrays conservatives as victims of "the left" who need a hero. In the meantime, he is the biggest flip-flopper in recent memory, which provides even more evidence of how little he believes in even his own crap. I hear he's OK with masks now. And didn't he hold up the Bible as a political trinket a couple weeks ago? His only real fear has to be that one day his base might pull their heads out of their asses and tire of being led onto extremist limbs, only to be abandoned there.

Trump's entire life is one big caricature, from trophy wives to exaggerated business success. He is constantly looking to be accepted, from trying to push into elitist circles that don't like him to buying his way into Veterans Day parades in New York. Now, he plays the obtuse fool for the obtuse masses from the White House.

So, racist? Hard to actually know what the man believes. If declaring the sun green would earn him some applause, the idiot would throw paint at the sky for an encore.
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I pretty much felt the same until recently. The whole racist thing could have been another part of the Rush Limbaugh model that got him elected.

But his reaction to the protest and his speech at Mount Rushmore? No way that wasn't from the heart. He reminds me of that superior Aryan Race thing from Hitler. Go down the list. Muslims, Hispanics, Blacks, Asian who else.

Make America Great Again. The White Man Rules. That is what the deplorables want to hear.
 
Conaeolos said:
The only way you think Trump is racist, is if you redefine "Racist" to refer to some weird Neo-communist idea where races (as replaced with the traditional worker) should have equality of outcome achieved through overt systemic racism yet again justified by their same old communist illusionary oppressor narrative. To myself who understands racism, as a characteristic of someone who has a lens of the the world based in race, thus making conscious choices to l avoid or treat someone differently based on assumptions and stereotype, positive or negative, rather than the content of their character or as they would anyone. Generally, if you can joke about race, interact with people of different races on a regular basis without it turning violent and hold race should never be a legal concept, except perhaps as a remedy for those who still try to make racial laws. By my understanding, trump doesn't have a racist bone in his body. Alas its 2020, and such based definitions seem to be going the way of the dodo.
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What a crock. There's no need to redefine racist to apply the term to Benedict Donald. Its nice that you can wander around trumpland being oblivious to his bigotry, which extends beyond race to include various ethnic groups. Must be privilege to do so.
 
upsideguy said:
Shortest: yes. Most accurate: not even close.

This is one instance when perception is reality. If most of the people think your a racist, and you are a leader, its because you come across as a racist. If you make no effort to fix that perception; you are a racist.

Poll: Most Americans say Trump is racist - 106.9 The Fox
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If appealing to a fallacy is all you have, in lieu of actually being able to supply some substantial proof in the matter. Then you're welcome to take that fallacy down to the CT threads and try your luck there.
 
ataraxia said:
America stands, and has always stood, for basic human rights and free trade, and against systematic discrimination, fear-mongering, isolationism, dictatorship, suppression of free speech, and war.

What dies the right stand for?
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for
Basic human right- check
Free trade- check
against
Going against discrimination- check
fear-mongering- check
isolationism- check
dictatorship-check
suppression of free speech- check
War?..... -check???

The right stands for much of that, though how the formation fits, is up for debate. Then again you're busy sitting on the side of a political mob that wants to do nothing but discriminate at this point. That wants to batter people who use their free speech, into the ground and can almost do nothing more than fear-monger about those that they don't accept.. among other horrible things...

So what exactly were you trying to prove with this highly ignorant post of yours?
 
ataraxia said:
America stands, and has always stood, for basic human rights and free trade, and against systematic discrimination, fear-mongering, isolationism, dictatorship, suppression of free speech, and war.

What dies the right stand for?
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All those things that you say the US stands for are exactly what the left stands against.
 
Peter said:
I vote Liberal Democrat and I'm from Bedfordshire (I may as well not bother voting as the conservatives win here every time) and I'm not anti-American.
I think the US has problems and needs to change as does the UK but there's a difference between that and hating America.
Why would I be on an American politics forum if I hated America?
I find American politics more interesting than UK politics which went into suicide mode when it decided to give Brexit a try.
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People like you only like the idea of a US that conforms to the kind of post democratic standards that the EU is setting. You display your anti-democratic preference with your description of Brexit as suicide...like becoming a free democratic country is a bad thing.
 
Big Eye said:
All those things that you say the US stands for are exactly what the left stands against.
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Barely any anti-trump posters actually know this.

They support people being beaten in the streets and the continued use of terrorism to push their own ideology. Then they huff and stomp their feet when they're called out on it.
 
Oborosen said:
Barely any anti-trump posters actually know this.

They support people being beaten in the streets and the continued use of terrorism to push their own ideology. Then they huff and stomp their feet when they're called out on it.
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Leftists are deluded. It is they who are the control freaks who despise freedom of expression , it is they who constantly bleat on about race because they are the real racists, it is they who wail about climate catastrophe to spread fear so that they have another excuse to control people.

Trust me, no one despises the left as much as me, they are the real enemy within.
 
It is really a shame what right wing propaganda has done to America.

Their perception of democrats is so warped.

No sense in debating it with them. They have been so indoctrinated with hate by Rush and the rest of hate media. All we can hope for is to keep them in the minority and move America in a direction completely opposite from the actions of the Trump administration.

On environmental issues

Public land use

Health care

Taxes

Imigration

Social Safety Net

Equality

And a host of other issues

If democrats get control this election they need to move fast to correct all the damage done by trump and move our country in a new direction.
 
rickc said:
Well is there any question about it after his speech at Mount Rushmore?
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It would certainly appear that way what with all the bigly body of evidence he has given for us to come to that conclusion.

I have no rational reason to not think he is a racist.

He certainly is with out any doubt one of the most overtly bigoted presidents, in my lifetime of political awareness, going back to 1963.
 
Oborosen said:
The shortest answer in no.
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Yes that is the shortest answer. Just two letters long. Of course it isn't the correct answer, that one being three letters long, as in "yes".

:2wave:
 
He's racist enough. I don't think it's at the core of his being the way it is for many of his supporters but it's enough to please them.
 
Big Eye said:
People like you only like the idea of a US that conforms to the kind of post democratic standards that the EU is setting. You display your anti-democratic preference with your description of Brexit as suicide...like becoming a free democratic country is a bad thing.
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I describe Brexit as suicide because the UK has massively benefitted from being in the EU and I think it'll be much worse off for going it alone.
I'm unsure how you can describe me as undemocratic as I've helped set-up a local polling booth which my mum ran for decades as returning officer and I think everyone should have a vote.
Again thinking that there needs to be change isn't hating a place it's just thinking that things at the moment aren't perfect and no country is ever perfect.
 
rickc said:
It is really a shame what right wing propaganda has done to America.

Their perception of democrats is so warped.

No sense in debating it with them. They have been so indoctrinated with hate by Rush and the rest of hate media. All we can hope for is to keep them in the minority and move America in a direction completely opposite from the actions of the Trump administration.

On environmental issues

Public land use

Health care

Taxes

Imigration

Social Safety Net

Equality

And a host of other issues

If democrats get control this election they need to move fast to correct all the damage done by trump and move our country in a new direction.
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Nice play at attempting to poison the well, and then ditching any reasonable attempt at even addressing the subject truthfully.
 
LouC said:
It would certainly appear that way what with all the bigly body of evidence he has given for us to come to that conclusion.

I have no rational reason to not think he is a racist.

He certainly is with out any doubt one of the most overtly bigoted presidents, in my lifetime of political awareness, going back to 1963.
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So, let's get this straight.

Do you actually believe that George Washington was a confederate hero?
 
LouC said:
Yes that is the shortest answer. Just two letters long. Of course it isn't the correct answer, that one being three letters long, as in "yes".

:2wave:
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Okay, I can just as easily claim that you're incorrect. Because I've asked for evidence of this before.

Then again, the same people who claim "Yes" also say that a statement not even concerning race. Is a racial slur.
 
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