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Is Trump a Racist?

Is Trump a Racist?

  • Yes

    Votes: 56 61.5%

  • No

    Votes: 32 35.2%

  • Other explain

    Votes: 3 3.3%
  • Total voters
    91
  • Poll closed .
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Well is there any question about it after his speech at Mount Rushmore?
 
The shortest answer in no.
 
He is the least racist person in the world.





ha ha. It never gets old.
 
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rjay said:
He is the least racist person in the world
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Actually I'd argue that there is a tribe somewhere in a deep jungle, who's never seen someone from another race.

That would theoretically make them the "least" racist.
 
Oborosen said:
Actually I'd argue that there is a tribe somewhere in a deep jungle, who's never seen someone from another race.

That would theoretically make them the "least" racist.
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Don't confuse fact with Trump bluster.
 
Andrew Gillum, not without his own baggage, nails it!

Andrew Gillum said of his opponent, Republican Ron DeSantis, during a debate that "racists believe he's racist."
 
The only way you think Trump is racist, is if you redefine "Racist" to refer to some weird Neo-communist idea where races (as replaced with the traditional worker) should have equality of outcome achieved through overt systemic racism yet again justified by their same old communist illusionary oppressor narrative. To myself who understands racism, as a characteristic of someone who has a lens of the the world based in race, thus making conscious choices to l avoid or treat someone differently based on assumptions and stereotype, positive or negative, rather than the content of their character or as they would anyone. Generally, if you can joke about race, interact with people of different races on a regular basis without it turning violent and hold race should never be a legal concept, except perhaps as a remedy for those who still try to make racial laws. By my understanding, trump doesn't have a racist bone in his body. Alas its 2020, and such based definitions seem to be going the way of the dodo.
 
of course
 
punkinhead is a white nationalist.
 
Conaeolos said:
The only way you think Trump is racist, is if you redefine "Racist" to refer to some weird Neo-communist idea where races (as replaced with the traditional worker) should have equality of outcome achieved through overt systemic racism yet again justified by their same old communist illusionary oppressor narrative. To myself who understands racism, as a characteristic of someone who has a lens of the the world based in race, thus making conscious choices to l avoid or treat someone differently based on assumptions and stereotype, positive or negative, rather than the content of their character or as they would anyone. Generally, if you can joke about race, interact with people of different races on a regular basis without it turning violent and hold race should never be a legal concept, except perhaps as a remedy for those who still try to make racial laws. By my understanding, trump doesn't have a racist bone in his body. Alas its 2020, and such based definitions seem to be going the way of the dodo.
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So someone who refuses to rent apartments to blacks does not fit your definition? How about a man that claims "blacks are lazy" or that a judge who is American but of Mexican descent cannot rule on Trump cases?

“Black guys counting my money! I hate it”

Next in the Trump record on race came a 1991 book by John O’Donnell, who had been president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City. O’Donnell quoted Trump saying,“ Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys wearing yarmulkes… Those are the only kind of people I want counting my money. Nobody else…Besides that, I tell you something else. I think that’s guy’s lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks.”

O’Donnell’s report was shocking, but Trump did not contest it at the time. In 1997 he was interviewed for Playboy by author Mark Bowden and he confirmed that the O’Donnell book was “probably true.”
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Is Donald Trump a Racist? Here'''s What His Record Shows | Fortune
 
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Yes, Trump is a racist. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck etc.

Easily our most bigoted president since Woodrow Wilson.
 
Conaeolos said:
The only way you think Trump is racist, is if you redefine "Racist" to refer to some weird Neo-communist idea where races (as replaced with the traditional worker) should have equality of outcome achieved through overt systemic racism yet again justified by their same old communist illusionary oppressor narrative. To myself who understands racism, as a characteristic of someone who has a lens of the the world based in race, thus making conscious choices to l avoid or treat someone differently based on assumptions and stereotype, positive or negative, rather than the content of their character or as they would anyone. Generally, if you can joke about race, interact with people of different races on a regular basis without it turning violent and hold race should never be a legal concept, except perhaps as a remedy for those who still try to make racial laws. By my understanding, trump doesn't have a racist bone in his body. Alas its 2020, and such based definitions seem to be going the way of the dodo.
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Racism can be concious and unconcious. Avoiding a fight is not an indication of whether one is or is not racist. Who told you this crazy stuff?
 
The question is laughable. There's no question Trump is a racist and has always been. His history goes back to the 70's when there were "No Vacancies" for Blacks in his apartments. It's all a matter of public record. The FBI released 400 pages of race discrimination files on Trump. All anyone has to do is see who endorses him. Every White supremacist organization is pro-Trump, so one need only ask, what do they know that the rest of Trump's mindless minions don't?
 
Does anyone still have to ask?
 
iguanaman said:
So someone who refuses to rent apartments to blacks does not fit your definition? How about a man that claims "blacks are lazy" or that a judge who is American but of Mexican descent cannot rule on Trump cases?



Is Donald Trump a Racist? Here'''s What His Record Shows | Fortune
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Everyone of those points is an accusation, nor do they add up to some damning evidence. I assume someone isn't racist unless proven otherwise, and the fact he doesn't watch his words to me is exactly the sign of a non-racist person. As far as I’ve seen, a racist person today either openly says it out loud, or speaks in the positive reverse-language most other people only use for the mentally challenged. I.e. Positive but condescending.

We live in a world where, people living in a segregated communities/jobs, know every dog-whistle, and support all sorts of racial laws yet are held up as some example of “tolerance” well a working class white father of black children (with no time for BS like learning dog-whistle’s for his real politics), get's call white supremist because he republican and is willing to make a offensive joke out loud like one does in the company of friends. Let’s not even get started with the nasty things openly spoken about any kind of racial minority republicans.

I would be far more suspicious of any politician that’s very careful with their words. We’re talking trump here – about as careful as an elephant in a china shop. I certainly understand if an organization like Trumps which is more brand than substance, defends against nasty accusations that could tarnish that brand (merit or not). Journalists, are just the modern-day gossips of courts from medieval times – more drama than substance. So show me the context before I assume. And, judges across this country have shown they care more about political than justice everyday, public and the less publicized. So what if he’s defends himself in the court of public opinion – that’s not racism.

So again, show me the claim not based in this neo-communist BS? Trump does all three things one would expect of an American who's over the whole racial supremacy BS: doesn’t obsess about race, he does business and lives with people of all types, and most important of all as president: he does not advocate nor move forward with making policies and laws based around race!!!
 
rickc said:
Well is there any question about it after his speech at Mount Rushmore?
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Racists think Trump is racist.
Black Americans think Trumps is racist.

The only people w/ any doubt seems to be middle class white Americans
who think keeping a white supremacist propaganda propagator in the WH
like Trump does, is perfectly normal behavior for a non-racist president.

Maybe Trump just pretends to like racists and hang out w/ racists.
Maybe Trump sees the Illinois-nazis crew as his own personal crew of useful idiots.

Hard to guess which of Trumps lies are true.


It's mere coincidence that the white supremacists / Illinois-nazis themed crowd think Trump is one of their own.


It's mere coincidence that Trump picked a slogan from American nazi sympathizers during WWII — America First.


It's mere coincidence that Trump has retweeted Trump supporters yelling "white power"


It's mere coincidence that Trump has repeatedly retweeted white supremacists' tweets.
 
Conaeolos said:
Everyone of those points is an accusation, nor do they add up to some damning evidence. I assume someone isn't racist unless proven otherwise, and the fact he doesn't watch his words to me is exactly the sign of a non-racist person. As far as I’ve seen, a racist person today either openly says it out loud, or speaks in the positive reverse-language most other people only use for the mentally challenged. I.e. Positive but condescending.

We live in a world where, people living in a segregated communities/jobs, know every dog-whistle, and support all sorts of racial laws yet are held up as some example of “tolerance” well a working class white father of black children (with no time for BS like learning dog-whistle’s for his real politics), get's call white supremist because he republican and is willing to make a offensive joke out loud like one does in the company of friends. Let’s not even get started with the nasty things openly spoken about any kind of racial minority republicans.

I would be far more suspicious of any politician that’s very careful with their words. We’re talking trump here – about as careful as an elephant in a china shop. I certainly understand if an organization like Trumps which is more brand than substance, defends against nasty accusations that could tarnish that brand (merit or not). Journalists, are just the modern-day gossips of courts from medieval times – more drama than substance. So show me the context before I assume. And, judges across this country have shown they care more about political than justice everyday, public and the less publicized. So what if he’s defends himself in the court of public opinion – that’s not racism.

So again, show me the claim not based in this neo-communist BS? Trump does all three things one would expect of an American who's over the whole racial supremacy BS: doesn’t obsess about race, he does business and lives with people of all types, and most important of all as president: he does not advocate nor move forward with making policies and laws based around race!!!
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LOL The first thing he did when he came down that escalator was obsess about race. I'm afraid you know that all too well.
 
Simon W. Moon said:
Racists think Trump is racist.
Black Americans think Trumps is racist.

The only people w/ any doubt seems to be middle class white Americans
who think keeping a white supremacist propaganda propagator in the WH
like Trump does, is perfectly normal behavior for a non-racist president.

Maybe Trump just pretends to like racists and hang out w/ racists.
Maybe Trump sees the Illinois-nazis crew as his own personal crew of useful idiots.

Hard to guess which of Trumps lies are true.


It's mere coincidence that the white supremacists / Illinois-nazis themed crowd think Trump is one of their own.


It's mere coincidence that Trump picked a slogan from American nazi sympathizers during WWII — America First.


It's mere coincidence that Trump has retweeted Trump supporters yelling "white power"


It's mere coincidence that Trump has repeatedly retweeted white supremacists' tweets.
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Yes the only people who don't think Trump is a racist are the closet racists who won't admit that Trump being a racist is one of his most appealing qualities to them.
 
Trump channels George Wallace as chief white supremacist in America
 
Yes, for $100 Bob!
 
reflechissez said:
Racism can be concious and unconcious. Avoiding a fight is not an indication of whether one is or is not racist. Who told you this crazy stuff?
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I would call unconscious racial bias, exactly that. So should you. It's not racism if it's not related to conscious choices. Anything else and your playing the Marxist game of "oppressed" and "oppressor". The world isn't made up like that. We are all bullies and we all get bullied. Some more, some less, but everyone at least a little in different contexts. You can not have both "equality of opportunity" and "equality of outcome". To have equal rules, you must have disparate outcomes. I don't feel tribed to my race, nor should you. If you do though, okay we're all different, that's still only a racial bias. The second though you take that racial bias, go around making laws, making life decisions, choose who you will and will not associate with based on race. That's when you cross into real racism. That's what we as a society should not tolerate.

I know who told you this crazy stuff. A believer in the debunked Marxist BS.
 
rickc said:
Well is there any question about it after his speech at Mount Rushmore?
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I though his adamant declaration that he would defend Mt. Rushmore from desecration by the evil new fascist far left was an appropriate reason for his adoring fans to revel in his macho toughness. Gotta love that classic mussolini pose of his with his lips pursed and his chin stuck out.

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I don't believe Trump is a racist.


Trump's base is made up of non-college white people who are afraid of blacks, and Trump panders to these people, so he appears a little racist.
 
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