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Mask Non Compliance

To mask or not to mask?

  • Do you give non-wearers the hairy eyeball?

    Votes: 1 4.2%

  • Would you politely tell non-wearers to please mask-up next time.

    Votes: 1 4.2%

  • Sternly admonish non-mask wearers.

    Votes: 1 4.2%

  • Call store security and call them a 'Karen.'

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Curse them out and call them murderers.

    Votes: 1 4.2%

  • Physically assault them.

    Votes: 1 4.2%

  • Not give a rat's ass and mind your business.

    Votes: 19 79.2%
  • Total voters
    24
  • Poll closed .
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How far are you willing to go to enforce complete mask-wearing compliance?


Masks are putting people at each other's throats, especially in Palm Beach County

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. - In the increasingly nasty debate about coronavirus masks, Palm Beach County became the nation's focus for the all the wrong reasons.

A woman stood before county commissioners a couple weeks back and demanded that they vote against requiring people to wear face coverings in public to prevent the coronavirus from spreading. She was one of about 45 angry people making the plea that day.

Then she spoke the words that would catch social media by storm: "I don't wear a mask for the same reason I don't wear underwear "things gotta breathe."

At the same time, the face-off thrust Palm Beach County back into the nation's consciousness, a microcosm of America's debate over whether masks prevent disease or infringe on freedom.

Little about the pandemic has generated as much consternation as masks, even given almost universal medical evidence that masks help stop the virus from spreading. The popularity of social media and the country's giant political divide have created an environment where mask agitation thrives.

Opponents say any benefit from masks - which they dispute in any case - is not worth the cost of their individual rights. No one should be told what they must wear, particularly by the government, they say.

Mask supporters are just as adamant about their view: We all need to don face coverings now or the pandemic will kill people needlessly.
 
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As the pandemic gets worse, I'm for significant monetary fines for belligerent idiocy. put on a ****ing mask.
 
grip said:
How far are you willing to go to enforce complete mask-wearing compliance?


Masks are putting people at each other's throats, especially in Palm Beach County

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. - In the increasingly nasty debate about coronavirus masks, Palm Beach County became the nation's focus for the all the wrong reasons.

A woman stood before county commissioners a couple weeks back and demanded that they vote against requiring people to wear face coverings in public to prevent the coronavirus from spreading. She was one of about 45 angry people making the plea that day.

Then she spoke the words that would catch social media by storm: "I don't wear a mask for the same reason I don't wear underwear "things gotta breathe."

At the same time, the face-off thrust Palm Beach County back into the nation's consciousness, a microcosm of America's debate over whether masks prevent disease or infringe on freedom.

Little about the pandemic has generated as much consternation as masks, even given almost universal medical evidence that masks help stop the virus from spreading. The popularity of social media and the country's giant political divide have created an environment where mask agitation thrives.

Opponents say any benefit from masks - which they dispute in any case - is not worth the cost of their individual rights. No one should be told what they must wear, particularly by the government, they say.

Mask supporters are just as adamant about their view: We all need to don face coverings now or the pandemic will kill people needlessly.
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I truly do not understand how people conflate the issue of masks as some sort of individual rights issue versus a health issue. Does anyone believe that driving after drinking is some sort of right?
 
washunut said:
I truly do not understand how people conflate the issue of masks as some sort of individual rights issue versus a health issue. Does anyone believe that driving after drinking is some sort of right?
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Driving a car is not a right... that is why those against facial recognition technology for getting on airlines are also wrong.

No right to fly on a place owned by other people.
 
The government doesn't have the right to force anyone to do something they don't want to.

They have the POWER, but not the right.
 
Your choices do not include my response.

I do not enter any store or business that does not require a mask and enforce it's policy.

I expect anyone on the street who is not wearing a mask to move a good six feet away as people wearing their mask pass. If a person refusing to wear a mask also refuses to move a safe distance away, I would resort to the "hairy eyeball" or ask them WTF???
 
grip said:
How far are you willing to go to enforce complete mask-wearing compliance?


Masks are putting people at each other's throats, especially in Palm Beach County

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. - In the increasingly nasty debate about coronavirus masks, Palm Beach County became the nation's focus for the all the wrong reasons.

A woman stood before county commissioners a couple weeks back and demanded that they vote against requiring people to wear face coverings in public to prevent the coronavirus from spreading. She was one of about 45 angry people making the plea that day.

Then she spoke the words that would catch social media by storm: "I don't wear a mask for the same reason I don't wear underwear "things gotta breathe."

At the same time, the face-off thrust Palm Beach County back into the nation's consciousness, a microcosm of America's debate over whether masks prevent disease or infringe on freedom.

Little about the pandemic has generated as much consternation as masks, even given almost universal medical evidence that masks help stop the virus from spreading. The popularity of social media and the country's giant political divide have created an environment where mask agitation thrives.

Opponents say any benefit from masks - which they dispute in any case - is not worth the cost of their individual rights. No one should be told what they must wear, particularly by the government, they say.

Mask supporters are just as adamant about their view: We all need to don face coverings now or the pandemic will kill people needlessly.
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I doubt masks do much good, but I wear one simply to make other people feel comfortable. Many people actually believe those little masks that hook around the ears will protect them. There's a reason health care professionals suit up 100% and also wear plastic face shields in addition to thick masks. And even with all that, many of them get infected anyways.
 
JMR said:
Your choices do not include my response.

I do not enter any store or business that does not require a mask and enforce it's policy.

I expect anyone on the street who is not wearing a mask to move a good six feet away as people wearing their mask pass. If a person refusing to wear a mask also refuses to move a safe distance away, I would resort to the "hairy eyeball" or ask them WTF???
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The hairy eyeball sounds like a funky drink name or a creative sexual position.
 
I think a good idea would be for municipalities to inplement hefty fines for people not wearing masks in public spaces, and for the proceeds to go to local small businesses and vulnerable workers. If these people are going to be assholes, they may as well serve some use.
 
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Waddy said:
I doubt masks do much good, but I wear one simply to make other people feel comfortable. Many people actually believe those little masks that hook around the ears will protect them.
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How do people still not understand the benefit of masks?

There's a reason health care professionals suit up 100% and also wear plastic face shields in addition to thick masks. And even with all that, many of them get infected anyways.
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Yeah, that reason is because they are required to go into places where infectious virus particles in the air are hyper-concentrated relative to everywhere else.
 
SkyChief said:
The government doesn't have the right to force anyone to do something they don't want to.

They have the POWER, but not the right.
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Sure they do and they do it all the time.
I bet a lot of people conscripted during times of war are not exactly happy about it.
They also forced people to wear seatbelts and many people hated that.
 
A study around 2015 found that about 67% of all people who smoke die from some form of cancer attributed to smoking. About 500,000 Americans die each year from health issues related to smoking. Non-smokers are also susceptible to health issues related to second hand smoke, some fatal.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...d,of cancer. The earlier you quit, the better.

And yet, there are no laws outlawing smoking accept age related ones and a few related to prohibition of smoking in certain environments. However, governments at the local, state and federal level all benefit from taxes related to the manufacture and sale of tobacco products. Where's the outcry? Where's the governmental demand that no person smoke? Is the decision to smoke a right anymore important than the decision whether or not to wear a mask in the current day's circumstances?

Not to get into that whole argument, but didn't your Supreme Court rule in Roe v Wade that there is a constitutional right to privacy of the person, prohibiting the government from telling you what to do with your own body? How is this any different?

I will always resist the government's capricious adoption of behavioural bylaws and/or legislation. If a business wants to instigate such a rule, that's fine with me - I have no right to demand the services of another. The government doing so is far different and to be resisted.
 
As long as you are wearing mask why would you care if someone else wasn't?
 
If they're in my personal space, "Get the F away from me, you fiend!"

if they maintain proper distance, I don't care WTF they do...
 
Masks should be worn at all times when in close proximity to others. That said, I am hesitant to support any sort of government imposed consequences on people who don't wear one outside in a public space, as much as I personally think they should be wearing one.

I am loathe to view it as much more than a dress code: You can and should be ejected from any indoor private or public establishment for not wearing a mask. I would not want to see people start getting detained by police officers for being without a mask in America, however, unless they have been asked to leave by a property owner and are considered to be trespassing. Let's keep this a social and cultural mandate. No need to bring law enforcement into the picture for nothing more than being "maskless in public."
 
Cardinal said:
I think a good idea would be for municipalities to inplement hefty fines for people not wearing masks in public spaces, and for the proceeds to go to local small businesses and vulnerable workers. If these people are going to be assholes, they may as well serve some use.
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Good luck with that. I can't say I'm surprised that the fascist left seeks to violate the rights of every American. Any State, city, town, or village that mandates masks is violating the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments. Government may not deprive anyone of their life, liberty, or property without due process of law. Despite the deliberate lies being pushed by the anti-American left, the US Constitution cannot be superseded in the event of an emergency.
 
After seeing all the masked terrorists committing their acts of violence, like setting the COPs on fire in Portland, anyone I see wearing a mask I consider to be a potentially violent threat and certainly a crazy leftist. If they approach me I may have to blow them away, fearing for my life.
 
antiquity said:
As long as you are wearing mask why would you care if someone else wasn't?
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I really can’t believe this has to be explained. I might be happy to explain it, if you can first help me understand why such a painfully simple thing is so difficult to you for you to understand. What is it you don’t get?

Do you know how viruses spread from person to person? Do we need to start even simpler than that? Do you know what a virus is?

What it looks like to me is that for political reasons, tens of millions of Americans are actively trying to be as stupid as possible about this right now. It’s not even accidental ignorance. It’s politically motivated intentional feigned ignorance.
 
I don't know about forcing people to wear masks, but I know for sure that someone ought to force that skank to wear underwear. ..... Nasty!
 
antiquity said:
As long as you are wearing mask why would you care if someone else wasn't?
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Progressives have this odd belief that you need to wear a mask to protect others.

I never could understand the logic in this.

People need to wear a mask to protect THEMSELVES, not others.

:roll:
 
Cardinal said:
I think a good idea would be for municipalities to inplement hefty fines for people not wearing masks in public spaces, and for the proceeds to go to local small businesses and vulnerable workers. If these people are going to be assholes, they may as well serve some use.
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I agree. They can also donate their time to human vaccine trials. At least that would hold some benefit. Otherwise, they're dead weight in this fight.
 
Glitch said:
Good luck with that. I can't say I'm surprised that the fascist left seeks to violate the rights of every American. Any State, city, town, or village that mandates masks is violating the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments. Government may not deprive anyone of their life, liberty, or property without due process of law. Despite the deliberate lies being pushed by the anti-American left, the US Constitution cannot be superseded in the event of an emergency.
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Jesus. Do you give that same boring speech every time you get a parking ticket?
 
SkyChief said:
Progressives have this odd belief that you need to wear a mask to protect others.

I never could understand the logic in this.

People need to wear a mask to protect THEMSELVES, not others.

:roll:
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You’re suffering from extreme cognitive deficits. The virus spreads from person to person including among people who are not aware they are infectious. Masks provide a barrier which significantly reduces the number of spit particles flying out of their mouth and landing in other peoples eyes, noses, and mouths. The more people wear masks, the smaller the number of spit particles there are landing in other peoples faces and infecting them. This reduces the rate of infection.

The fewer spit particles we have flying around landing on each other, the less the virus spreads. We can catch it through our eyes. We wear a mask over her mouth and nose to reduce the number of particles flying out of our mouths and landing on other peoples faces. Wearing masks over our noses and mouths is more about protecting others and the population as a whole than it is about protecting ourselves.

There is nothing politically progressive about this. It has nothing to do with progressives. It has nothing to do with left-wing politics. It has nothing to do with anything except basic virological and epidemiological facts.
 
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Cardinal said:
I think a good idea would be for municipalities to inplement hefty fines for people not wearing masks in public spaces, and for the proceeds to go to local small businesses and vulnerable workers. If these people are going to be assholes, they may as well serve some use.
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Who would enforce this?
 
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