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Is Anyone Really Waiting To See Who Biden Picks As VP before Deciding?

Is Anyone Really Waiting To See Who Biden Picks As VP before Deciding?

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Cardinal said:
Well, obviously they "knew" wrong, since everything they accused her of ended up not being true, and ending up being true a hundred times as much for Trump. So if they could believe so many wrong things about Clinton, then they'll have absolutely no problems believing multiple wrong things about Biden, such as Tara Reade's accusation and vague notions of Ukrainian corruption. So you'll pardon me if I don't attribute such hot judgment to people who voted for trump.
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The e-mails were clearly a major screw up. I had a clearance and could just imagine telling Military Intelligence I did not have wrongful intentions when I mishandled those classified documents. Then there was the allowing of Hillary to delete information before turning over the equipment to the FBI. I could just see me telling the military "hey I need time to have things professionally deleted before I turn them over to you. I mean what a circus act if there ever was one. No she didn't do anything wrong. WOW!

Then we have the idiot Comey rigging the election with his grandstanding right before the election that he found a bunch of e-mails. Obama should have fired him within the hour and set the record straight. He had nothing and even if he did he should of turned it over to the D.O.J. not shout it out to the world. Then he said that it is OK to mishandle information if it is not intentional. Really. I bet everyone out there with a clearance believes that lie. Unbelievable.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
The e-mails were clearly a major screw up. I had a clearance and could just imagine telling Military Intelligence I did not have wrongful intentions when I mishandled those classified documents. Then there was the allowing of Hillary to delete information before turning over the equipment to the FBI. I could just see me telling the military "hey I need time to have things professionally deleted before I turn them over to you. I mean what a circus act if there ever was one. No she didn't do anything wrong. WOW!

Then we have the idiot Comey rigging the election with his grandstanding right before the election that he found a bunch of e-mails. Obama should have fired him within the hour and set the record straight. He had nothing and even if he did he should of turned it over to the D.O.J. not shout it out to the world. Then he said that it is OK to mishandle information if it is not intentional. Really. I bet everyone out there with a clearance believes that lie. Unbelievable.
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Morons in charge

How did Comey ever get hired as head of FBI?

Whose brilliant decision was that. Obummer's, no doubt
 
Maybe he should choose ... ilhan or whatever that Somali chick's name is
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
The e-mails were clearly a major screw up. I had a clearance and could just imagine telling Military Intelligence I did not have wrongful intentions when I mishandled those classified documents. Then there was the allowing of Hillary to delete information before turning over the equipment to the FBI. I could just see me telling the military "hey I need time to have things professionally deleted before I turn them over to you. I mean what a circus act if there ever was one. No she didn't do anything wrong. WOW!

Then we have the idiot Comey rigging the election with his grandstanding right before the election that he found a bunch of e-mails. Obama should have fired him within the hour and set the record straight. He had nothing and even if he did he should of turned it over to the D.O.J. not shout it out to the world. Then he said that it is OK to mishandle information if it is not intentional. Really. I bet everyone out there with a clearance believes that lie. Unbelievable.
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See? You believe absolute nonsense about Clinton, so there's nothing to stop you from believing absolute nonsense about Biden.
 
Blue Donkey said:
You just proved my point. You have to completely ignore the opponents and Democratic Party to claim you actually like Donald Trump himself. Hating the other person or party is just hating them, not liking him. Why do people like Trump himself based only one HIS personality, not this "he is not them" business? You also proved me right about Trump being a bad man in your next sentence. So again, I see the same old crap that every "Trump supporte" tells me to answer my questoin.
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Not sure where I said I liked Trump or was a supporter, but maybe you're speaking in general. For the record I have never cast a vote for Donald Trump in my life and I don't expect to start in 2020.

In any case, you said, if voters were educated about Trump they'd never vote for him. So what would they do? Vote for the Democrat? Hillary and Biden both have their own skeletons. Not vote at all or vote 3rd party? Unlikely. So yeah - million of people are educated on all of Trump's flaws and still support him. Your claim remains demonstrably false.
 
Cardinal said:
See? You believe absolute nonsense about Clinton, so there's nothing to stop you from believing absolute nonsense about Biden.
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Mishandling classified information is OK if not intentional. Well everyone handling classified information knows that it is not nonsense. Comey grandstanding right before the election he found a bunch of e-mails didn't interfere in the election. Hillary sure thought it did and clearly didn't think it was nonsense. Comey had nothing but he clearly screwed her out of a lot of votes. I guess that is just nonsense. Comey did more damage than Putin and Obama was fine with it.
 
His VP choice does not matter at all.

Biden will still lose this November.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
Mishandling classif-
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Yadda yadda yadda. Again, this is why I don't trust trump supporters to exercise good judgment about Biden, as you can already see from them calling him corrupt, demented, a pedophile, a rapist, etc. etc. etc. etc.
 
Moderate Right said:
Really? Is anyone deciding who to vote for based on Biden's VP pick?
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I am. It is important to know who will be running the show. So it depends whether to vote Biden/? ticket or 3rd, most likely, since Klobuchar took herself off the list.
 
jcgriff2 said:
His VP choice does not matter at all.

Biden will still lose this November.
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I haven't seen any indication whatsoever this is not the case...Dems really picked a wimpazoid
 
eman623 said:
Not sure where I said I liked Trump or was a supporter, but maybe you're speaking in general. For the record I have never cast a vote for Donald Trump in my life and I don't expect to start in 2020.
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Yes, I was speaking in general, but I got the impressoin you are a Trump supporter. Thank you for wanting Joe Biden to be our president the next four years. (You know there is no chance someone else will be nominated in Milwaukee.)

In any case, you said, if voters were educated about Trump they'd never vote for him. So what would they do? Vote for the Democrat? Hillary and Biden both have their own skeletons. Not vote at all or vote 3rd party? Unlikely. So yeah - millions of people are educated on all of Trump's flaws and still support him. Your claim remains demonstrably false.
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They would have voted for other Republicans during the 2016 primary, resulting in Hillary Clilnton having a totally different opponent that year. It is anyone's guess who that guy would have been.

Now that I think about it, if I was a Republican, I would have written the name Mitt Romney on my ballot in March just because of the most famous vote he cast. You can guess which one that is.

Supporting Donald Trump means only one thing: the voter likes him - his words, actions, and personality. People who only hate the opponent would "support" whoever the elephant is and only care about the party, not who leads it.
 
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Blue Donkey said:
Yes, I was speaking in general, but I got the impressoin you are a Trump supporter. Thank you for wanting Joe Biden to be our president the next four years.
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I did not say that. You are assuming that if I don't vote for Trump then I want Biden to be the next president. I don't. I'm not enamored with either idiot and I actually like Trump more than Biden. But not enough to vote for Trump either.

They would have voted for other Republicans during the 2016 primary, resulting in Hillary Clilnton having a totally different opponent that year. It is anyone's guess who that guy would have been.

Now that I think about it, if I was a Republican, I would have written the name Mitt Romney on my ballot in March just because of the most famous vote he cast. You can guess which one that is.

Supporting Donald Trump means only one thing: the voter likes him - his words, actions, and personality. People who hate the opponent would "support" whoever the elephant is and only care about the party, not who leads it.
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Many did vote for other Republicans in the primary season. Trump was always everyone's 2nd choice, but the voters could never settle on a 1st choice. So Trump got the nod. Later, once Trump got the nomination most Republicans rallied around him. This is perfectly normal and happens on both sides. In 2020, the Bernie Bros are all going to vote for Biden who they find largely repugnant but not as repugnant as Trump.

Supporting Biden doesn't mean the Bernie Bros like his words, actions and personality. Just as supporting Trump doesn't mean all Republicans like his words, actions and personality.
 
eman623 said:
I did not say that. You are assuming that if I don't vote for Trump then I want Biden to be the next president. I don't. I'm not enamored with either idiot and I actually like Trump more than Biden. But not enough to vote for Trump either.

Many did vote for other Republicans in the primary season. Trump was always everyone's 2nd choice, but the voters could never settle on a 1st choice. So Trump got the nod. Later, once Trump got the nomination most Republicans rallied around him. This is perfectly normal and happens on both sides. In 2020, the Bernie Bros are all going to vote for Biden who they find largely repugnant but not as repugnant as Trump.

Supporting Biden doesn't mean the Bernie Bros like his words, actions and personality. Just as supporting Trump doesn't mean all Republicans like his words, actions and personality.
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Bernie Sanders supporters are very liberal progressives who like his ideas that older Americans rejected as too radical and expensive. They considered Joe Biden a centrist or moderate who will not move America forward beyond reversing the damage Trump is doing.
 
Blackstone said:
I'm sure there's somebody, somewhere, but does that apply to more than the most marginal of numbers? Almost certainly not. People have made up their mind about these candidates far in advance of Electiion Day. Perhaps more so than at any other time in my life.
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How many black females are there that won't alienate 2/3rds of the population?
 
Blue Donkey said:
Bernie Sanders supporters are very liberal progressives who like his ideas that older Americans rejected as too radical and expensive. They considered Joe Biden a centrist or moderate who will not move America forward beyond reversing the damage Trump is doing.
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You are deliberately ignoring my point. They don't like Biden or else they would have supported him in the primaries. Now they are resigned to support him in the general election. What choice do they have? It's not like they are going to vote for Trump.

Remind you of anything? Your claim that if voters are educated on Trump they will never vote for him is demonstrably false. Your own backpeddling and carrying water for Bernie Bros is a compelling piece of evidence for that.
 
Mycroft said:
I'm waiting to see if Biden is actually the person the DNC Elites make their candidate.
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He has already clinched the nomination....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...8a4e66-a7e3-11ea-b473-04905b1af82b_story.html

Paradoxical said:
How many black females are there that won't alienate 2/3rds of the population?
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Almost all of them.... the election is Trump vs Not Trump. With 56% of America (and growing) think that Trump is doing a bad job , there is almost nothing Biden can do to make Trump more appealing than Not Trump. How do you get people that think you are doing a bad job to vote for you?

How Popular Is Donald Trump? | FiveThirtyEight

I get that Trump supporters think this is important, but very few others care. Case in point: the people that voted "waiting to see Biden's VP pick before deciding" are generally posters favorable to Trump. What does that mean other than to affirm my assertion.

BTW. Harris is your new VP.

eman623 said:
You are deliberately ignoring my point. They don't like Biden or else they would have supported him in the primaries. Now they are resigned to support him in the general election. What choice do they have? It's not like they are going to vote for Trump.

Remind you of anything? Your claim that if voters are educated on Trump they will never vote for him is demonstrably false. Your own backpeddling and carrying water for Bernie Bros is a compelling piece of evidence for that.
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"Not Trump" wasn't as popular a choice in 2016. Trump has done nothing to expand his base and everything to push away voters willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. There ain't no doubt any more.

In 2016, persons that liked neither Clinton nor Trump broke 1.5 to 1 for Trump. Thus far, persons that like neither Trump nor Biden (and Biden is far more popular than Clinton) are breaking 4.5 to 1 for Biden.

You might want to check out the polls.

National President: general election Polls | FiveThirtyEight

Trump is going to lose. The only question is by what margin? But, I do hope you are using this time to come to terms with the notion that Trump will be The Former President a year from now.
 
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Cardinal said:
Yadda yadda yadda. Again, this is why I don't trust trump supporters to exercise good judgment about Biden, as you can already see from them calling him corrupt, demented, a pedophile, a rapist, etc. etc. etc. etc.
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I don't think he is a pedophile, a rapist, or demented. I think he is old. I personally would rather a young man like Obama than an old man. I think these fossils we have as leaders are the #2 cause of all the problems in this country. The #1 problem is these old fossils are corrupt party puppets. Unlike you I am not party blind and bias and know it is both parties.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
I don't think he is a pedophile, a rapist, or demented. I think he is old. I personally would rather a young man like Obama than an old man. I think these fossils we have as leaders are the #2 cause of all the problems in this country. The #1 problem is these old fossils are corrupt party puppets. Unlike you I am not party blind and bias and know it is both parties.
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There you go. You blabber on about email nonsense and now you're blabbering on about "corruption party puppets." Everything you're saying confirms my position that the judgment of trump supporters is worthless.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
No. I actually liked Biden. I wish he would have ran instead of Hillary. He would have won. People voted for Trump because they new Hillary was worse.
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Off subject, but exactly what part of Hilary was worse than Trump?
 
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