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    Re: Is the fat acceptance movement good for society?

    Quote Originally Posted by dex4974 View Post
    Convincing yourself that you're winning online debates seems important to you.
    No convincing needed... once the debate is clearly over and the other guy (you) laughs off facts... well.
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    Re: Is the fat acceptance movement good for society?

    Quote Originally Posted by dex4974 View Post
    The United States and other developed countries have obesity rates that are increasing at an alarming speed. Is fat acceptance teaching young people that it's okay to not control your eating habits? Is it teaching young people that it's okay to be undisciplined? We teach young people that it's bad to smoke because it's unhealthy and can hurt them. Is the same not true of obesity?

    In my view respecting and loving yourself means taking care of your body and keeping it healthy. It means having disciplined behavior.
    The somewhat overused phrase: "It is what it is", is applicable here.
    If people are supposed to know about physiological health, they have to receive the knowledge from somewhere.
    Expecting social media and apologia groups to provide adequate knowledge is beyond stupid. If people don't make a genuine effort to educate themselves and their offspring, they are 100% free to die from their own lifestyle choices without anyone being required to as much as raise an eyebrow on their behalf.
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    Re: Is the fat acceptance movement good for society?

    Quote Originally Posted by dex4974 View Post
    The United States and other developed countries have obesity rates that are increasing at an alarming speed. Is fat acceptance teaching young people that it's okay to not control your eating habits? Is it teaching young people that it's okay to be undisciplined? We teach young people that it's bad to smoke because it's unhealthy and can hurt them. Is the same not true of obesity?

    In my view respecting and loving yourself means taking care of your body and keeping it healthy. It means having disciplined behavior.
    There are people who are predisposed to be being morbidly obese...and then there are those who gain weight by eating/drinking poorly with little to no physical activity. In any event, I don't think we should celebrate it, but at the same time, shame it either.

    The problem is largely American. It is because we have an abundance of processed food. And an aversion to physical activity. As well as a political group who start screaming about the encroachment of rights when schools and certain institutions follow health guidelines and serve healthier food with more physical activities instead of letting people chose to eat cheesypoofs and sit at the laptop getting mad at Michelle Obama.....

    Many other nations (not all) have cuisines that are based on far more nutritional items like Greece. Or have elements of their cuisine that goes back centuries so you can have a good choice of processed food or a national dish that most will choose over eating poorly. We don't really have that.

    We DO have American cuisine after a fashion, but it tends not to be that healthy. However...if you look at 18th century recipes like I have, you can find some pretty savory and tasty stuff that can also be healthy for you. I've lost about ten pounds over the past few weeks by simply eating better an incorporating these dishes in my diet.

    So, if you are history buff and/or want to try some different ways to make food check this guy out: YouTube .
    I wonder if I will be reported and what the infraction will be this time...

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    Re: Is the fat acceptance movement good for society?

    Quote Originally Posted by dex4974 View Post
    The United States and other developed countries have obesity rates that are increasing at an alarming speed. Is fat acceptance teaching young people that it's okay to not control your eating habits? Is it teaching young people that it's okay to be undisciplined? We teach young people that it's bad to smoke because it's unhealthy and can hurt them. Is the same not true of obesity?

    In my view respecting and loving yourself means taking care of your body and keeping it healthy. It means having disciplined behavior.
    I picked, 'both'. You can be very active, be a healthnut about what you put into your body, and still be thicker than what you would like to be, as everyone's metabolism and family history.is differet. I don't think people should feel bad about this, and regardless of habits, people are going to end up being different shapes and sizes. That said, this isn't an excuse to just say, '**** it' and ignore health and fitness altogether. I say be content with your body, but don't let that be an excuse to stop being concerned, and to stop trying.

    This commercial I've been seeing lately has this big gall dancing around half-naked while eating some sort of food product. I'm not a chubby-chaser, but she's what I would consider to be a 'BBW', but the product itself doesn't seem to be marketed as a healthy alternative to anything, so intentional or not, it's implying that you can and should eat as much of this product as you want and that you shouldn't worry about getting any bigger. I could be dead-wrong about this ad, but if I'm not . . . yowzer, what an irresponsible message.

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    Re: Is the fat acceptance movement good for society?

    Quote Originally Posted by BahamaBob View Post
    You are what you eat. Eat garbage, become garbage. It is not hard to understand. If you are a lazy twit and load up on processed food, you can only blame yourself for being a fat creep. Lard butts like all losers always have someone or something else to blame. People who go to the gym and are fit are eating the same food (in less quantity) as the lard butts. Why don't your hormones and gut bacteria affect them? I have five sons. When they were young and wanted a snack they got an apple. They ate balanced meals and played competitive sports. None of them are fat. They have too much pride to let their bodies go to seed. My grandkids are the same way. Instead of watching TV they are playing soccer. Most kids today spend their free time playing a video game or dinking with their Iphone while cramming down chips and candy bars. They will grow up to be lard butts with a dozen excuses just like you.

    Take a trip over to France or Germany, you will rarely see a lard butt who isn't an American Tourist. You will also notice the people there walk and ride bikes instead of taking a car everywhere.

    Go pump your fairy tale to someone else. I know better.
    I think you are a bit misinformed. About a quarter of the German population is obese with over 60% being overweight.
    France is better at about 1 in 10 people being obese
    While it is true America is the worst, most of the 1st world countries are struggling with this to varying degrees.

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    Re: Is the fat acceptance movement good for society?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    No convincing needed... once the debate is clearly over and the other guy (you) laughs off facts... well.
    You're one of those people that thinks getting the last word means you won a debate. It can also mean somebody has decided you're not worth any more actual effort. Shrugging off 12 links filled with studies and evidence to the contrary of your nonsensical arguments is a good way to achieve that with me. You're not interesting enough, sorry.

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    Re: Is the fat acceptance movement good for society?

    Quote Originally Posted by HK.227 View Post
    The somewhat overused phrase: "It is what it is", is applicable here.
    If people are supposed to know about physiological health, they have to receive the knowledge from somewhere.
    Expecting social media and apologia groups to provide adequate knowledge is beyond stupid. If people don't make a genuine effort to educate themselves and their offspring, they are 100% free to die from their own lifestyle choices without anyone being required to as much as raise an eyebrow on their behalf.
    Their ignorance costs our society resources.

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    Re: Is the fat acceptance movement good for society?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Warfield View Post
    There are people who are predisposed to be being morbidly obese...and then there are those who gain weight by eating/drinking poorly with little to no physical activity. In any event, I don't think we should celebrate it, but at the same time, shame it either.

    The problem is largely American. It is because we have an abundance of processed food. And an aversion to physical activity. As well as a political group who start screaming about the encroachment of rights when schools and certain institutions follow health guidelines and serve healthier food with more physical activities instead of letting people chose to eat cheesypoofs and sit at the laptop getting mad at Michelle Obama.....

    Many other nations (not all) have cuisines that are based on far more nutritional items like Greece. Or have elements of their cuisine that goes back centuries so you can have a good choice of processed food or a national dish that most will choose over eating poorly. We don't really have that.

    We DO have American cuisine after a fashion, but it tends not to be that healthy. However...if you look at 18th century recipes like I have, you can find some pretty savory and tasty stuff that can also be healthy for you. I've lost about ten pounds over the past few weeks by simply eating better an incorporating these dishes in my diet.

    So, if you are history buff and/or want to try some different ways to make food check this guy out: YouTube .
    Was it conservatives that decided schools would no longer mandate P.E and recess?

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    Re: Is the fat acceptance movement good for society?

    Quote Originally Posted by braindrain View Post
    I think you are a bit misinformed. About a quarter of the German population is obese with over 60% being overweight.
    France is better at about 1 in 10 people being obese
    While it is true America is the worst, most of the 1st world countries are struggling with this to varying degrees.
    Yep. Even developing countries like Brazil are starting to struggle with obesity.

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    Re: Is the fat acceptance movement good for society?

    Quote Originally Posted by dex4974 View Post
    You're one of those people that thinks getting the last word means you won a debate.
    Not at all... I could say that you are one of those people that wants to get the last word but when that doesn't happen you accuse the other person of trying to get the last word.

    It can also mean somebody has decided you're not worth any more actual effort.
    It can. In this case it appears more likely that you are upset that you are not getting to Fat Shame as easily as you thought you could.

    Shrugging off 12 links filled with studies and evidence to the contrary of your nonsensical arguments is a good way to achieve that with me.
    I showed how one of your links had nothing to do with the claim that you were making... here is another:

    https://www.niehs.nih.gov/health/mat...onment_508.pdf

    It says obesity and the environment... nowhere in the article does it actually talk about how obesity negatively affects the environment... in fact, it doesn't even talk about the environment at all... you just cherry picked some good sounding articles and didn't even read them. On the other hand I have provided you with facts. You have dismissed facts. People that lose to me in debates sometimes cry about it like you have done in your post.

    You're not interesting enough, sorry.
    That is what my parents told me... you are going to have to do better if you think that will affect me in any way.
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    Hey guise i took 1st gwade science a boy has a pee pee and a girl doesnt! I r smurt!
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