Cop acquitted, how bad will it get?

my biggest concern is what happens when Trump pardons him.

Mongidig said:

my biggest concern is what happens when Trump pardons him.

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Trump can only pardon the officer if he is convicted on federal civil rights charges.

There is NO discussion of the REAL issue - the ONLY issue. Floyd had been treated with incredible respect by all the officers. Everything going just fine - until he was in the back seat. Then you see a new, whimpy officer - only a few days on the job - struggling likely to put the seat belt on - and unable to.

Suddenly the senior officer pulls Floyd out of the other side of the car. Why? Had Floyd head butt the officer? Spit at him? Threatened the officer, was struggling trying to prevent being put in a seatbelt?

Remember, the officers knew at that point Floyd was a long time drug dealer, and armed robber, huge and so muscular he was wearing a muscle shirt to show it of.

The portrayal of 4 officers cruising around looking for a black man to kill - picking some innocent ordinary family man driving down the road deciding to murder him is all a lie. Floyd became resistant in the back of the car, forcing him to be forcibly subdued until he gave up the struggle. Officers go thru that a million times a year. Floyd died of a heart attack.

That's the story. Where's the "murder?" At most, one office violated police policy by how he held Floyd down. That's not even a crime.

It is always stunning to be the total control television has over people. How DARE I look at what portions of the video are even allowed and conclude there was no murder whatsoever - and seeing the massive political usage of this to conclude the only reason is because it is election season, just like was the only reason for the Trayvon Martin race-baiting because it was an election season.

A drug dealer (meaning basically murderer and destroyer of people's lives, armed robber (meaning incredibly dangerous), burglar (plead down to trespass of a building) and huge man who is a bouncer (meaning tough as hell) died of a heart attack while resisting arrest. You'll get no tears from me. Men like him are a plague on society. I've known many men like him because I lived in his world for 14 years. These are VERY dangerous men. VERY. I often had to deal with them. Violently so was not rare. (Not as a cop, but one of them in a way only tougher and more hard core.)

He thought it'd be fun messing with the whimpy newbie cop in the back of that car - and the senior officer knew how you have to deal with men like him - power then down. There is no other way to gain control.

George died at his God appointed time. That’s it that’s my story.

joko104 said:

Name the city with a Republican majority government that has been hit by looting and arson riots. Give it a try. The fact is that now a person who has a business in a Republican city has been safe from looting and arson riots. People - particularly non-white people - who have businesses in Democratic Party run cities have not been safe.

Facts are facts, but like Joe Biden said you Democrats will no longer accept facts. You're a follower of Joe Biden now, aren't you?

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First and foremost, a Trump supporter, ANY Trump supporter has no right to be pointing fingers at ANYONE in regards to accepting "facts."

Secondly, well there is no secondly. I have already spent too much time responding to you. Have a nice day.

joko104 said:

There is NO discussion of the REAL issue - the ONLY issue. Floyd had been treated with incredible respect by all the officers. Everything going just fine - until he was in the back seat. Then you see a new, whimpy officer - only a few days on the job - struggling likely to put the seat belt on - and unable to.

Suddenly the senior officer pulls Floyd out of the other side of the car. Why? Had Floyd head butt the officer? Spit at him? Threatened the officer, was struggling trying to prevent being put in a seatbelt?

Remember, the officers knew at that point Floyd was a long time drug dealer, and armed robber, huge and so muscular he was wearing a muscle shirt to show it of.

The portrayal of 4 officers cruising around looking for a black man to kill - picking some innocent ordinary family man driving down the road deciding to murder him is all a lie. Floyd became resistant in the back of the car, forcing him to be forcibly subdued until he gave up the struggle. Officers go thru that a million times a year. Floyd died of a heart attack.

That's the story. Where's the "murder?" At most, one office violated police policy by how he held Floyd down. That's not even a crime.

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They didnt know jack. They pulled him over for suspected fake $20 bill. I used to just laugh at you but this is seriously screwed up.

bomberfox said:

They didnt know jack. They pulled him over for suspected fake $20 bill. I used to just laugh at you but this is seriously screwed up.

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What a stupid message. They looked him up on their computer and knew in was a violent multi-convicted drug dealer, drug runner, and armed criminal who has used a gun in a robbery. Floyd was a very dangerous and physically powerful man who hurt a lot of people. All drug dealers do. That's what bouncers do. He was a bouncer, drug runner and bill collector (thug) for a strip club. Those are men not to mess around with. Even if they aren't bullies (most are, I wasn't), they are very physically powerful, their profession is largely around invoking fear in others, and not someone to prick around.

Your messages are pure racism, refusing to consider the individuals and instead stereotyping people by race and profession. That's typical white progressive racism.

I have no doubt he sensed the fear in the 3 and 4 day on-the-job trainees and messed with them when one of them was trying to reach over him to fasten a seat belt.

Look, I understand you love black criminals because you are required to believe they are all a victim of white you - typical white progressive views of their/your white racial superiority.

You think black drug dealers, drug runners, armed robbers and professional thugs are wonderful people if they are black because it is white people including you that made them turn to crime. That is the core of white guilt racism - intense white guilt racism. Floyd would not hesitate to easily beat you nearly to death - and he would enjoy doing it. He would get a kick out of terrifying you too. He'd enjoy seeing the fear come over you and he'd enjoy seeing you flee from him - as you should. That's who and what he was. A drug runner, bouncer, enforcer and thug for a strip club - which make their money off of ripping off customers getting their credit cards, drugs and prostitution - not liquor. I know exactly what he did because I did it myself for over a decade. However I knew to be totally submissive physically and verbally to the police, other than following the lawyers advise as to what I would and would not say.

Floyd committed hundreds of crimes in his lifetime because it was his profession, just like in the past it was mine. People like you should fear such men, stay out of their way. Police with experience know these are dangerous men. If they do not act completely physically submissive pro-actively, the police have little choice but to surprise overwhelm that man with numerous officers. You don't stop such men with a taser or pepper spray. That just sets them off. I was careful to use basic primate passive body language and a couple times kneels on a knee crossing my arms and bowing my head to demonstrate submissive. Back then I could have taken 4 officers down and my physical potential ability was outwardly apparent.

POLICE DO NOT HAVE TO TAKE RISKS with exceptionally powerful and skilled experienced fighters. Police officers do not have to be MSM world champions. If a man clear can be seen to be extremely dangerous physically - and has a record of violence and criminality like Floyd - there is no middle ground. As a long as he was passive, they were also very passive. When he started trouble in the police car, the senior officer knew he has to put him into very forcible collective submission. Floyd only respects power and will only yield to greater physical power.

It takes a very specific kind of man for such a job. He had been in and out of jail and prison his entire adult life. I don't have so much as a parking ticket - but a very long record in terms of interactions and investigations with the Chicago police. I know exactly who and what George Floyd was.

Floyd did a fear-power move in the back seat, the newbie traineee not knowing how to deal with it, and the veteran officer did what has to be done with someone like Floyd. Had nothing to do with his race. It had to do with his record, his size and physical power, and his behavior inside that police car.

I had to deal with men like him routinely for over a decade. He only understood power, actual real physical power. If you do not get ahead of them in the power contest, you are going to get hurt very badly. If you do not have the ability to do so - then submit and flee is your only other option. For his age he was no longer as tough as he was in his 30s, but he could easily beat nearly every man on this forum and probably 3 at the same time.

It is important to understand the individuals involved - though progressivism denies individually should even be allowed. Two of the officers were trainees, less than a week of on-the-job training with a senior veteran officer. One of them said the one with his knee on Floyd's neck shouldn't be doing so. Neither did anything to harm Floyd whatsoever. But despite this, they both have already been convicted, locked in solitary and essentially denied bond, while their picture and name is spread around the world - lying about them calling them white supremacist murderers. The injustice of that, the using them for evil political purposes, is outrageous.

Floyd's death probably saved a lot of lives in the long run. He was a drug dealer and drug runner. That mean he was killing people with drugs. Destroying people's lives.

BTW, there now have been numerous police shot including in the head and hospitalized by being hit with bricks and rocks. I bet you have not posted even one message giving a damn about them, have you? Police have to look out for themselves. Others, people like you, never would.

Mongidig said:

my biggest concern is what happens when Trump pardons him.

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Another stupid message by a progressive. Trump can't pardon him.

What "him?" They also are prosecuting the 2 less-than-a-week trainees having locked them up probably for a year with no trial and seeking to imprison them for life. They committed the crime of not shooting the 18 year veteran trainer in the head to stop him. One of them told him he shouldn't be doing what he was doing. Since verbal words wouldn't work, then what were the trainees to do? Shoot their trainer in the head?

Captain America said:

First and foremost, a Trump supporter, ANY Trump supporter has no right to be pointing fingers at ANYONE in regards to accepting "facts."

Secondly, well there is no secondly. I have already spent too much time responding to you. Have a nice day.

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Facts are painful to most progressives. Nothing you post is based on facts. Just slogans the richest people on earth tell you on television.

OldFatGuy said:

So what? The kid is still dead. The question remains about the failure of the parenting.

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That's a big so what.

Fishking said:

That's a big so what.

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Yes, it is. A few more years, and another very minor footnote to human experience. Few will recall the kid's name. And in time, fewer will recall his death.