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Twitter says Trump "glorifies violence"

Twitter says Trump "glorifies violence". True?

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"These THUGS are dishonoring the memory of George Floyd, and I won’t let that happen. Just spoke to Governor Tim Walz and told him that the Military is with him all the way. Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts. Thank you!"
Twitter's response: The tweet is hidden by a notice from Twitter -- but is still viewable behind the notice.

"This Tweet violated the Twitter Rules about glorifying violence. However, Twitter has determined that it may be in the public's interest for the Tweet to remain accessible," says the notice.

Twitter flagged Trump'''s tweet about shooting looters as violating rules on "glorifying violence"
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In a survey, voters were asked "are you afraid of other races?" Like 90% of Trump's supporters said "yes".


Do you think Trump is glorifying violence?
 
I mean, saying "when the looting starts, the shooting starts" is dubious at best. In the context, it is easy to take this as Trump sanctifying the shooting of protesters and looters on sight. A President shouldn't be talking like that, it will only hasten the divide and cause more conflict.
 
Ikari said:
I mean, saying "when the looting starts, the shooting starts" is dubious at best. In the context, it is easy to take this as Trump sanctifying the shooting of protesters and looters on sight. A President shouldn't be talking like that, it will only hasten the divide and cause more conflict.
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Looters should be shot on sight. If such an order were given, the looting would come to a stop almost instantly.
 
AmNat said:
Looters should be shot on sight. If such an order were given, the looting would come to a stop almost instantly.
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The looting is not acceptable, but if the police started shooting looters on sight here, it would set off an even bigger powderkeg. It wouldn't "come to a stop almost instantly". The government doesn't have license to kill its citizens, and considering that all of this started by the police killing an unarmed suspect already in custody, killing more people isn't going to put those flames out. It will just add fuel to the fire.

Sometimes I think people need to treat human life with a bit more reverence than they show.
 
Ikari said:
I mean, saying "when the looting starts, the shooting starts" is dubious at best. In the context, it is easy to take this as Trump sanctifying the shooting of protesters and looters on sight. A President shouldn't be talking like that, it will only hasten the divide and cause more conflict.
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Yea, we don’t want to see anything like Ferguson when Obama wouldn’t support the police officer who happened to be innocent.

Obama's Ferguson Sellout | Manhattan Institute
 
AmNat said:
Looters should be shot on sight. If such an order were given, the looting would come to a stop almost instantly.
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Thank you Mayor Richard Daley of Chicago.
 
Outlook said:
Yea, we don’t want to see anything like Ferguson when Obama wouldn’t support the police officer who happened to be innocent.

Obama's Ferguson Sellout | Manhattan Institute
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Trump dumping fuel on this fire may make this turn out well worse than Ferguson. The looting and destruction is not acceptable, nor does it help the cause. However, this all precipitated with cops killing a detained and surrendered suspect. Perhaps the root of the problem lies there.
 
AmNat said:
Looters should be shot on sight. If such an order were given, the looting would come to a stop almost instantly.
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Bet it would cut down on jaywalking too.

Not to mention parking in a handicapped zone.

It would he so sweet to mow down a kid who stole a candy bar, right?

I don't condone any of the violence and destruction. It isn't helpful to either side.

But imagine how mad you would be if a cop did the same to trump.
 
AmNat said:
Looters should be shot on sight. If such an order were given, the looting would come to a stop almost instantly.
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Littering would also stop if litterers were shot on sight
 
Ikari said:
The looting is not acceptable, but if the police started shooting looters on sight here, it would set off an even bigger powderkeg. It wouldn't "come to a stop almost instantly". The government doesn't have license to kill its citizens, and considering that all of this started by the police killing an unarmed suspect already in custody, killing more people isn't going to put those flames out. It will just add fuel to the fire.
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There is no evidence for this predictive model having been correct at any point. History is quite clear that the best way to stop a riot is with overwhelming force.

The best way to "fuel the fire" is to let rioters know that there'll be limited or no consequences for their actions.

Sometimes I think people need to treat human life with a bit more reverence than they show.
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If people are committing burglary and arson their lives ought to be considered forfeit.
 
Trump has always glorified violence, even requested it from supporters, because he's too much of a coward to have ever done a damn thing in his life. Trump is constantly telling his cult, "are you gonna let them say that?" and he never does anything. His stupid orcs cheer his cowardice.

Anyone could slap that fat piece of garbage and he wouldn't do anything but cry for his mommy.
 
Ikari said:
I mean, saying "when the looting starts, the shooting starts" is dubious at best. In the context, it is easy to take this as Trump sanctifying the shooting of protesters and looters on sight. A President shouldn't be talking like that, it will only hasten the divide and cause more conflict.
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But that is what he is all about. Nothing new here, that's for sure.
 
AmNat said:
There is no evidence for this predictive model having been correct at any point. History is quite clear that the best way to stop a riot is with overwhelming force.
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Where were the police in Minneapolis when nightfall took the city? I watched several hours of it last night and it seemed the police deserted and abandoned that area of the city where the precinct building was. Why?
 
AmNat said:
There is no evidence for this predictive model having been correct at any point. History is quite clear that the best way to stop a riot is with overwhelming force.



If people are committing burglary and arson their lives ought to be considered forfeit.
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Overwhelming force is not necessarily permitted by the government against its people. We don't need to turn this into a Haymarket Riot every time police kill an unarmed black man. Maybe stop killing unarmed black men would be a good first step.

If this violence precipitated out of killing one unarmed man, think about what would happen if cops killed 10's of people by opening fire into a crowd. No, this simplistic notion of "we just need to keep killing them til they stop resisting" will not make it better, it will only make it worse.
 
AmNat said:
Looters should be shot on sight. If such an order were given, the looting would come to a stop almost instantly.
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Your post needs to come with a disclaimer that you are glorifying violence.

In the words of Martin Luther King Jr.
The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy, instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it. Through violence you may murder the liar, but you cannot murder the lie, nor establish the truth. Through violence you may murder the hater, but you do not murder hate. In fact, violence merely increases hate. Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
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I express that sentiment to you, President Trump, and what should be peaceful protests about an unnecessary, violent act that took the life of a fellow American at the hands, or knee, of a man who swore an oath to protect him.
 
haymarket said:
Where were the police in Minneapolis when nightfall took the city? I watched several hours of it last night and it seemed the police deserted and abandoned that area of the city where the precinct building was. Why?
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They're presumably following the standard (delusional) theory that Ikari is touting, that toleration of violence will somehow make it go away.

Ikari said:
Overwhelming force is not necessarily permitted by the government against its people. We don't need to turn this into a Haymarket Riot every time police kill an unarmed black man. Maybe stop killing unarmed black men would be a good first step.
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Dozens of "unarmed black men" are killed in this country every day. Very few by police. If you want to stop that, the best way would be with a harsh crackdown on crime.

The Haymarket Riot lasted five minutes. Because the Chicago police at the time were willing to suppress riots with adequate force.

If this violence precipitated out of killing one unarmed man, think about what would happen if cops killed 10's of people by opening fire into a crowd. No, this simplistic notion of "we just need to keep killing them til they stop resisting" will not make it better, it will only make it worse.
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The reason violence is occurring is because the criminal underclass knows that they have an opportunity to engage in violence with impunity. If the opposite were made clear to them, the violence would cease.
 
Xilnik said:
Your post needs to come with a disclaimer that you are glorifying violence.

In the words of Martin Luther King Jr.
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MLK said:
The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy, instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it.
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This is a delusional statement from a delusional man. It has no connection to the real world, nor any basis in anything that has ever actually happened.
 
AmNat said:
They're presumably following the standard (delusional) theory that Ikari is touting, that toleration of violence will somehow make it go away.



Dozens of "unarmed black men" are killed in this country every day. Very few by police. If you want to stop that, the best way would be with a harsh crackdown on crime.

The Haymarket Riot lasted five minutes. Because the Chicago police at the time were willing to suppress riots with adequate force.



The reason violence is occurring is because the criminal underclass knows that they have an opportunity to engage in violence with impunity. If the opposite were made clear to them, the violence would cease.
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I think the best police tactics infighting the sort of burning we see in Minneapolis is a highly visible police presence on the streets. You do that before you have to move in to stop burning and rioting. And that was nowhere to be seen last night.

It is almost a signal to people to break the law because the police have left the building.

The scene I saw last night was 90 - 95% of the people there WERE NOT BURNING OR RIOTING. They were watching few people do it. They are NOT the criminal underclass even though a few people might fit that description.

It is clear that the police let a bad situation get out of control.
 
Ikari said:
The looting is not acceptable, but if the police started shooting looters on sight here, it would set off an even bigger powderkeg. It wouldn't "come to a stop almost instantly". The government doesn't have license to kill its citizens, and considering that all of this started by the police killing an unarmed suspect already in custody, killing more people isn't going to put those flames out. It will just add fuel to the fire.

Sometimes I think people need to treat human life with a bit more reverence than they show.
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Thus Black Lives Matter
 
haymarket said:
Where were the police in Minneapolis when nightfall took the city? I watched several hours of it last night and it seemed the police deserted and abandoned that area of the city where the precinct building was. Why?
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They were protecting the home of the cop who murdered that black man in cold blood.

 
So to answer the OP. Not sure if it's "glorifying" by definition, although the honest people will admit that Trump has a history of seemingly getting a hard on about violence.

I think he shouldn't have said this, but I think the smart people know that too.
 
ecofarm said:
Trump has always glorified violence, even requested it from supporters, because he's too much of a coward to have ever done a damn thing in his life. Trump is constantly telling his cult, "are you gonna let them say that?" and he never does anything. His stupid orcs cheer his cowardice.

Anyone could slap that fat piece of garbage and he wouldn't do anything but cry for his mommy.
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I had to refuse a job working on a trump rally.

Because he has been on the "Slap on sight" list for decades. And I'm sure others would be there too.

There are just so many people who would behave better if somebody slapped the **** out of them from time to time.
 
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