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Trump to close Twitter?

Do you think Twitter should add "fake news" warnings to Trump's tweets?

  • Need more info

    Votes: 1 3.0%

  • Yes, Trump tweets fake news

    Votes: 29 87.9%

  • No, Trump speaks the truth

    Votes: 3 9.1%
  • Total voters
    33
  • Poll closed .
Airyaman said:
First amendment does not apply. Social media is not run by government. As a moderator, you should know that.
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I do beg your pardon. I should have said "Viva the concept of free speech." :roll:
 
roguenuke said:
No. I don't use Twitter. Its not a necessity of life and if I really wanted to share my opinion, however fake it may be, I could always find other mediums to do so.
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I don't either. You missed my point.
 
Peter King said:
I agree, he is free to make totally fact free claims, but Twitter has the freedom of speech to point it's readers towards the lack of truthfulness of those comments.

Hey, that is the result of the companies are people too (Citizens United), because if it is valid for the electoral process, it is true for this too.
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Yes, Twitter has the right to point out false claims.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Or you, but neither of us are the President of the United States.
And Twitter's "Terms of Service" predate the Trump administration.
If Trump doesn't want to follow the TOS and Twitter is required to let him do so with impunity, then what is even the point of having one?

So, just remember that Trump is not only above the law, he's even beyond a private company's Terms of Service and is not required to honor any contract or agreement, or pay any debt, or adhere to any oath.

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Just remember that Trump may try to shut down YOUR private enterprise "if it displeases him".
Trump, the guy who supposedly represents those "small government conservatives".
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Your question is a good one.
 
Napoleon said:
That’s a suspect figure without any definition behind it. It’s a small(ish) number but not that small. For example, Ohio identified 77 ballots cast in 2018 by legal residents who are not eligible to vote. Add to that cases of eligible citizens who mail multiple absentee ballots under forged signatures or vote in-person after mailing an absentee ballot. It happens and our State at least readily admits that it doesn’t have the tools to find them all.
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Even an analysis by the National Republican Lawyers Association aimed at uncovering as much voter fraud as possible found only 332 alleged cases of fraud of any kind nationwide from 1997 through 2011, out of many hundreds of millions of ballots cast.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...ow-turnout-is/


That's not fraud. It's easy to see how people who didn't register somehow thought they could vote. There was no intent to commit a crime.

And the 77 ballots, out of what millions? It was discovered by cross checking that they had not registered, and the votes were made invalid. It's not a problem.
 
swing_voter said:
Even an analysis by the National Republican Lawyers Association aimed at uncovering as much voter fraud as possible found only 332 alleged cases of fraud of any kind nationwide from 1997 through 2011, out of many hundreds of millions of ballots cast.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...ow-turnout-is/


That's not fraud. It's easy to see how people who didn't register somehow thought they could vote. There was no intent to commit a crime.

And the 77 ballots, out of what millions? It was discovered by cross checking that they had not registered, and the votes were made invalid. It's not a problem.
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And I’m pointing out the bolded quote is nowhere close to a correct estimate. And yeah, people have been prosecuted in Ohio for casting illegal absentee ballots. One of the persons involved in that 77 for example was sentenced to 1 year in prison. And then you have people who can legally vote such as Melowese Richardson - sentenced to 5 years in prison for casting numerous absentee ballots in multiple elections by forging the signatures of relatives and then going to the polls to vote again in-person. I’ve never claimed that such activity is election-changing, but it is a problem and any claim to the contrary is false.
 
Jean-s said:
Twitter needs Donald Trump and his 80 millions+ Followers.
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Most of those 80M followers are hopelessly addicted to tweets from many sources. It's not like they could just quit if Trump got banned.
 
swing_voter said:
Do you think Twitter should add "fake news" warnings to Trump's tweets?
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If they choose to. Isn't the free market grand? Their platform, their rules. I don't care either way because I don't get my "news" from the lying President's Tweets.

But unlike Trump supporters, I still believe in the rights of a company to set their own rules, as long as the rules are within the letter of the law. I know Trump is threatening them right now, proving once again how the "new right" has turned on a dime. The once cherished "states rights" and "free market" have been replaced by "I love The Donald".
 
But if Trump closed Twitter, who would he talk to?
 
Napoleon said:
I’ve never claimed that such activity is election-changing, but it is a problem and any claim to the contrary is false.
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Claiming it's significant, or worth mentioning, is stupid.
 
haymarket said:
Trump again reveals himself a wanna-be authoritarian who desperately wants to shut down anyone who endangers his administration and November er reelection. He is a disgrace to the American people and the day he is no longer in power cannot come soon enough.
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The executive can only legally execute the legislation enacted by congress. Are you saying that the president is acting in an extra-constitutional manner?
 
Wouldn't be great if Twitter closed. Wonder how long President Trump would last without being able to send out tweet's.

There is enough tweets to show Trump does not always tell the true story. So yes, Trump posts fake news.
 
Helix said:
Twitter should have banned Punkinhead years ago for ToS violations. they liked the sweet money too much to do it.
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Even now they're only fact checking him, when any normal person tweeting what he has said would be long gone.
 
Manc Skipper said:
Even now they're only fact checking him, when any normal person tweeting what he has said would be long gone.
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Yep. He would have lasted on a regular message board about two weeks, if that.
 
Moderate Right said:
Your poll question does not correspond to the poll answers. Your poll question asked if Twitter should add "fake news" warnings to Trump tweets and then your poll answers merely ask if Trump tweets are fake news or if they are the truth. So, I couldn't answer your poll. Twitter is not the fake news police for anyone. They are not the judge of what is fake or not. Therefore, whether Trump speaks the truth or spouts off about something, Twitter shouldn't be commenting about any of it. Social media constantly has fake news on it.
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All they did is post a warning "Get the facts on mail-in ballots." That is pretty benign. They could have posted "this tweet contains material inaccuracies or misrepresentations". That would have been a stronger, factual statement, but they offered up the wimpy "get the facts...." Why would you be against something that vanilla?

oh wait, if Republicans actually "got the facts" they probably would not be Republicans.
 
Moderate Right said:
You can't wipe out some people's first amendment rights while allowing others. They're asking to get sued every time they try claiming something is fake news when they have no proof other than opinions. It's election time. Pretty much all candidates make false claims about the other side. There is no way to police that unless you do so with a bias.
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You don't have a clue what you're talking about. The first amendment says the government can't infringe free speech, nothing about private business. Trump being the government, the constitution you pay lip service to says he can't influence what Twitter does with their private property.
 
nota bene said:
Viva the First Amendment, downsides and all.
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Quick question: does DP have rules regulating the kinds of things I can say on this platform?
 
upsideguy said:
All they did is post a warning "Get the facts on mail-in ballots." That is pretty benign. They could have posted "this tweet contains material inaccuracies or misrepresentations". That would have been a stronger, factual statement, but they offered up the wimpy "get the facts...." Why would you be against something that vanilla?

oh wait, if Republicans actually "got the facts" they probably would not be Republicans.
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Then they can also post a warning from the 2005 bipartisan report which stated the dangers of mail in voting. Fair is fair, right?
 
This stupid ****ing dip**** president has more important things to do than argue with Twitter, how embarrassing for the adults in the nation to see a petulant 74 year old teen...
 
Moderate Right said:
The hypocrisy abounds to no ends when the left attack Facebook time and time again.
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I have not attacked Facebook. Please stop with the claims of hypocrisy against people who you can't show are being hypocritical in that matter.

I feel the same way about Facebook. They are free to allow or control any content they wish.

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nota bene said:
I don't either. You missed my point.
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You were trying to apply the First Amendment to a private site, claim they could do it to you (as I pointed out, they can't since I don't post on twitter), when its their site. They have that right.

My God this isnt even a ban or censorship. Its providing more info for information they deem needs it. Its their site.

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Moderate Right said:
Then they can also post a warning from the 2005 bipartisan report which stated the dangers of mail in voting. Fair is fair, right?
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Twitter says "get the facts"... that seems to be consistent with that. Now, I do question the judgement of someone that tries to understand the current state of affairs by reading a document that is 15 years old, but at least they are questing to better informed, assuming they don't stop there.

Anyone that at least double checks anything Trump say at least shows some degree of intelligence.

Moonglow said:
This stupid ****ing dip**** president has more important things to do than argue with Twitter, how embarrassing for the adults in the nation to see a petulant 74 year old teen...
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... he is just trying to detract people from his abysmal failure at leadership. Rather than saving American lives, his ineptitude cost lives and did serious economic damage. He has no choice but to distract.

5,788 hours to go.
 
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FirstTracksGirl said:
The problem with this thought by Trump to me in my opinion is that Twitter is a private company and Trump participates on it voluntarily for free. Him wanting to regulate it or even close it down because of perceived censorship against him and “the right” is the opposite of limited government. I don’t think you can support what he is wanting to do and also call yourself a person for limited government and free markets. The best way to hurt a company like Twitter as a whole is to unsubscribe from the platform and support or create competition.
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:agree:yt:yt:cheers::dito:
 
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