• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Main reason Trump is hated

Why is Trump So hated?

  • Ain't no good

    Votes: 35 50.7%

  • Probably envious

    Votes: 2 2.9%

  • TDS

    Votes: 19 27.5%

  • They know he's right

    Votes: 13 18.8%
  • Total voters
    69
  • Poll closed .
SmartCat said:
I can only speak for myself. During the 2016 Republican primary I wanted Trump to be nominated by the Republicans. The reason was not because I though it would be easy for the Democrat candidate to defeat him. The reason was that he seemed to be a different kind of Republican, one who cared about those left behind by economic changes. He was once described as "a third party candidate running as a Republican." Then as soon as he was inaugurated he cut taxes for the rich.

In other words, Trump was following the Reagan playbook. Like Reagan he appealed to nostalgia for the 1950's, when the top tax rate was usually 91%, and when one third of the work force belonged to labor unions. Then he tried to restore as much as he could of the economic status quo of the 1920's, when the top tax rate declined to 25%, and labor unions were weak.

It was only after Trump became president that I learned how dishonest, vulgar, inarticulate, lacking in gravitas, and unpresidential Trump is. I think he is intellectually, psychologically, and morally unsuited for his position.
Click to expand...

Don't you get it that a reasonable corporate tax rate means companies can expand and create jobs?

And Trump cut taxes for all so y the focus on one group? Oh yeh... politics
 
2distracted said:
Don't you get it that a reasonable corporate tax rate means companies can expand and create jobs?

And Trump cut taxes for all so y the focus on one group? Oh yeh... politics
Click to expand...

Rich people do not hire people when they have more money. They hire people when they have more customers, even if they have to borrow money to do it. They have more customers when Democrat governments raise their taxes and spread the money around. That is why Democrats have better records on job creation.

payroll-expansion-by-presdient.jpg

Bush On Jobs: The Worst Track Record On Record - Real Time Economics - WSJ

From Truman to Bush: Presidential Employment Gains - The Big Picture
 

Attachments

  • payroll-expansion-by-presdient.jpg
    payroll-expansion-by-presdient.jpg
    28 KB · Views: 64
2distracted said:
Don't you get it that a reasonable corporate tax rate means companies can expand and create jobs?

And Trump cut taxes for all so y the focus on one group? Oh yeh... politics
Click to expand...

That's a false assumption.
 
Trump is hated because he can't even try to talk people off a ledge. Instead, he eggs them on to jump. Last night he turned off the lights and hid in the bunker. That is why he is hated.
 
calamity said:
Trump is hated because he can't even try to talk people off a ledge. Instead, he eggs them on to jump. Last night he turned off the lights and hid in the bunker. That is why he is hated.
Click to expand...

That and the one option the OP missed. He's hated because he's a c***.

I had to laugh at the image of him being so inconvenienced he was sent huffing to the bunker while the Secret Service probably pissed themselves with laughter.
 
uptower said:
That and the one option the OP missed. He's hated because he's a c***.

I had to laugh at the image of him being so inconvenienced he was sent huffing to the bunker while the Secret Service probably pissed themselves with laughter.
Click to expand...

I would add he is not a decent, honorable man.
 
White House: Obama vs Trump

98608097-375E-4385-A6C6-971C1C434334.jpg
 
SmartCat said:
Rich people do not hire people when they have more money. They hire people when they have more customers, even if they have to borrow money to do it. They have more customers when Democrat governments raise their taxes and spread the money around. That is why Democrats have better records on job creation.

View attachment 67282196

Bush On Jobs: The Worst Track Record On Record - Real Time Economics - WSJ

From Truman to Bush: Presidential Employment Gains - The Big Picture
Click to expand...

Businesses have more customers when said customers have more $$$ to spend bc the government hasn't taken damn near all of it
 
jamesrage said:
TDS. Mostly because he doesn't have a D next to his name.
Click to expand...

That's a cop out. TDS is a made up word to explain away dislike of a horrible person as some unreasonable fault.

The dude acts like a bastard to everyone. Of course people will dislike him for it.
 
There are a few reasons why I dislike him (as a person and president) and won't vote for him:

1. I strongly disagree with many of his policies.
2. I think he's one of the most blatantly dishonest people in American politics, and that's saying something.
3. As the leader of the most powerful country in the world, you have almost unlimited access to one of the planet's greatest resources, the world's leading professionals, scientists, experts, etc. Instead of listening to their advice, he has a habit of listening to only his own council, and that of the incredibly unqualified people he's surrounded himself with.
4. He politicizes everything. I'm sick of his me vs. everyone else attitude and his willingness to attack anyone and everyone. I know people are constantly attacking you and saying nasty things, but you're the president of the United States, making controversial decisions that's affecting hundreds of millions of lives. Of course many people are going to react strongly to your opinions and decisions. Stop lashing out and taking things so personally, and grow some thicker skin.
5. Dignity and respectability are important things for the president to have, both nationally and abroad. He's one of the world's most undignified and disrespected world leaders, and has done a ton of damage to our country's image and world standing.

There are other reasons, but those are the big ones I can think of right now.
 
uptower said:
That's a cop out. TDS is a made up word to explain away dislike of a horrible person as some unreasonable fault.

The dude acts like a bastard to everyone. Of course people will dislike him for it.
Click to expand...

Not to the unborn
 
eman623 said:
I like some of his policies. Not all.

Do I personally like him? I've never met him, so no,
Click to expand...

You don't need to know him personally to have a pretty clear idea of what sort of person he is.

I just wonder why so many Trump supporters seem to think they know the thought processes of people who find the man appalling. They do not have a clue.

Maybe it is a guy thing but when my boyfriend tells me what I think, rather than letting me tell him what I think, it is usually because he is itching for a fight!
 
2distracted said:
What's main reason Trump is So hated
Click to expand...

Why is Trump hated? Here's a good summary of why the British hate him:

A few things spring to mind. Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem. For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honor and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.

Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever.

Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers. And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.

And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully. That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.​
 
Cassandra said:
You don't need to know him personally to have a pretty clear idea of what sort of person he is.
I respectfully disagree. Everyone has a personal and a public persona. You don't really know a person standing on a stage doing an act, which is mostly what politicians do.

In any case, I don't need to like the president or even want to think of him as a friend. No politician is my friend. I have plenty of real flesh-and-blood friends with whom I enjoy positive personal relationships.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
uptower said:
That's a cop out. TDS is a made up word to explain away dislike of a horrible person as some unreasonable fault. The dude acts like a bastard to everyone. Of course people will dislike him for it.
Click to expand...
TDS explains your post well enough. Occam's razor says that the simplest explanation is usually best.

Cassandra said:
You don't need to know him personally to have a pretty clear idea of what sort of person he is. I just wonder why so many Trump supporters seem to think they know the thought processes of people who find the man appalling. They do not have a clue. Maybe it is a guy thing but when my boyfriend tells me what I think, rather than letting me tell him what I think, it is usually because he is itching for a fight!
Click to expand...
Your post gives a lot of insight as to your thinking, so you cannot say others do not have a clue. You advertise what you think.

jpn said:
Why is Trump hated? Here's a good summary of why the British hate him

A few things spring to mind. Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem. For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honor and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.

Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever.

Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers. And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.

And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully. That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.​
Click to expand...
Only someone predisposed against Trump thinks he is not funny. He is wry, witty, and excels at lampooning inflated egos. I suppose that if yours was one of the inflated egos, it might seem otherwise.

Another is that he is the little guy standing up to the bully, sneering at the threats and throwing the insults back. This bully, the media complex, has broken many politicians but not Trump, which is where this thread comes in.

Trump is hated because he's still standing.
 
uptower said:
That's a cop out. TDS is a made up word to explain away dislike of a horrible person as some unreasonable fault.

The dude acts like a bastard to everyone. Of course people will dislike him for it.
Click to expand...

It sounds to me as if you are discussing Jim Acosta of CNN.
 
Robertinfremont said:
It sounds to me as if you are discussing Jim Acosta of CNN.
Click to expand...

It could describe a number of people who are as it turns out, sociopathic d!cks. You may even work or go to school with one. But they're not really 'normal' and I wouldn't want one running the country.
 
Jay59 said:
TDS explains your post well enough. Occam's razor says that the simplest explanation is usually best.

He is wry, witty, and excels at lampooning inflated egos.

Another is that he is the little guy standing up to the bully, sneering at the threats and throwing the insults back. This bully, the media complex, has broken many politicians but not Trump, which is where this thread comes in. Trump is hated because he's still standing.
Click to expand...

TDS is just the logical fallacy of attacking the poster. Ad hominem, nothing more.

Since we're dabbling in fantasy theories here, maybe the real TDS is Trump Delusion Syndrome: stubborn hero worship as above.

It's the utter inability to see what a failure the president is and the persistent belief, after four years of lies, corruption and sheer incompetence that Trump is the man he so lazily pretends to be.

There is no man behind the curtain. That flailing buffoon on the stage, that's all there is to him.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom