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Who SHOULD Biden pick as his running mate?

Who SHOULD he pick?

  • Abrams

    Votes: 8 13.8%

  • Cortez Masto

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Demings

    Votes: 4 6.9%

  • Duckworth

    Votes: 2 3.4%

  • Harris

    Votes: 13 22.4%

  • Klobuchar

    Votes: 17 29.3%

  • Rice

    Votes: 2 3.4%

  • Warren

    Votes: 10 17.2%

  • Whitmer aka Big Gretch

    Votes: 2 3.4%
  • Total voters
    58
  • Poll closed .
Free Thinker said:
And you know it too. Everyone does. Old senile gropey Joe has zero chance. MAGA!
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You gonna leave the country when Biden wins in November and makes America great again?;)
 
EnigmaO01 said:
If Biden is a moron then Trump is a cretin.
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So let me get this straight. After the shutdown and the nation being near economic collapse, you think America is going to pick Joe Biden to recover their retirement funds and jobs when he is the epitome of the do nothing politician? I find that hilarious.
 
TurtleDude said:
The liberal propaganda based on hindsight. stop pretending otherwise.
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What a pathetically weak retort. In fairness to you, ya have no case so you just throw words that mean nothing affirming for all us the obvious. Trump mishandled the response to the CoronaVirus epidemic. Has a result of his incompetence, lives were lost. America has, by far, the most cases and most deaths. Other countries have faired so much better. Questions will be asked and answers will be given: just how many lives were lost as a result of Trump's incompetence. The jury of Trump's peers, in this case, the electorate, will do the right thing, based upon presented, an turn him out. Most of us know it, including you as represented by your pathetic "its just liberal propaganda".... if it were propaganda you would have no problem refuting my allegations, but you did have a problem because its not propaganda, its the truth.

Meanwhile, read the Lancet, the premier Medical Journal of Great Britain. Its not liberal, its professional: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31140-5/fulltext

Again, its prevailing wisdom. Some of these articles arose as I searched for people that said Trump handled this well.... not some of them credit Trump for some aspects of the response, but generally are critical. These are not liberal sources.
Trump Scapegoats China and WHO for the Coronavirus Pandemic—and Americans Will Suffer
Donald Trump blames everyone but himself for the coronavirus crisis. Will voters agree?
How Trump'''s handling of coronavirus compares with other presidents | Fortune
Coronavirus response: Things the US has got right - and got wrong - BBC News
https://theintercept.com/2020/04/02/is-donald-trump-criminally-responsible-for-coronavirus-deaths/
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/14/trump-coronavirus-health-care-crisis/
https://www.ft.com/content/80aa0b58-7010-11ea-9bca-bf503995cd6f

Even that closet Liberal Mitch McConnell could not endorse his effort...

https://www.courier-journal.com/sto...p-mishandled-coronavirus-pandemic/5095995002/
 
Free Thinker said:
Wake up! Wake up! You're dreaming!
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AlphaOmega said:
So let me get this straight. After the shutdown and the nation being near economic collapse, you think America is going to pick Joe Biden to recover their retirement funds and jobs when he is the epitome of the do nothing politician? I find that hilarious.
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Stock markets generally perform much better under Democrats.

Democrats Vs. Republicans: Who Is Better For The Stock Market?

Trump did nothing to drive the current economy except to not screw it up, until he did. Double digit unemployment is not going to win a candidate with a 53% disapproval rating re-election. its complete fantasy to think otherwise. Perhaps its time to wake up to reality.
 
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AlphaOmega said:
So let me get this straight. After the shutdown and the nation being near economic collapse, you think America is going to pick Joe Biden to recover their retirement funds and jobs when he is the epitome of the do nothing politician? I find that hilarious.
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So let me get this straight. You think trump will get a second chance after collapsing the economy?
 
upsideguy said:
Stock markets generally perform much better under Democrats.

Democrats Vs. Republicans: Who Is Better For The Stock Market?

Trump did nothing to drive the current economy except to not screw it up, until he did. Double digit unemployment is not going to win a candidate with a 53% disapproval rating re-election. its complete fantasy to think otherwise. Perhaps its time to wake up to reality.
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lol..the UE is from the virus not Trump. But good to see you think this. That way November stings you lefties like a mad mud wasp.
 
99percenter said:
So let me get this straight. You think trump will get a second chance after collapsing the economy?
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Only a complete and fantastic moron thinks the econimic crash is on Trump. How stupid can those on the left get?
 
AlphaOmega said:
Only a complete and fantastic moron thinks the econimic crash is on Trump. How stupid can those on the left get?
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The pandemic is a small factor in the trump depression. The nation was already head into recession. the trump virus just gave it a tiny nudge. The first sign of recession was in September 2019 when the yield curve inverted. In February the corporate debt bubble reached $10 trillion 47% of the entire economy. the trump virus popped an existing bubble trump created with his failed tax cuts and pressure on the powell to cut interest rates.
 
99percenter said:
The pandemic is a small factor in the trump depression. The nation was already head into recession. the trump virus just gave it a tiny nudge. The first sign of recession was in September 2019 when the yield curve inverted. In February the corporate debt bubble reached $10 trillion 47% of the entire economy. the trump virus popped an existing bubble trump created with his failed tax cuts and pressure on the powell to cut interest rates.
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I am going to enjoy November. I mean..do you actually believe what you just wrote?
 
AlphaOmega said:
lol..the UE is from the virus not Trump. But good to see you think this. That way November stings you lefties like a mad mud wasp.
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If Trump had done a good job, we would have been locked down for a month. But, he did a piss poor job as evidenced by the fact that we are now emerging after two months with the outbreak still not under control (see New Zealand, Australia or South Korea, for best practices).

A large part of the unemployment now and later will be because of Trump's ineptness. This should have been over and done with six weeks ago. While some may give him a pass (some will look the other way at him killing people on 5th avenue, which he did btw), those that are sitting unemployed in November will not. Of course, he will also have to deal with the ledger of deaths attributed to his ineptness, but that is another discussion.

Good for Trump that he inherited a good economy and then declared it his own. Unfortunate for him, he will exit with a poor economy which most people will fault him for. Good luck coming in; bad luck heading out. But, hey, better to have bad luck than no luck at all.

But, back to your point, why would anyone trust a Republican with their 401(k) when over the last 100 years the Dems have had 6.3x the returns of Republicans. You didn't answer that one.

Democrats Vs. Republicans: Who Is Better For The Stock Market?

There are so many reasons why Trump has no shot in 2020, but the most telling is he has lost the senior vote. There has been a 14 point swing in the over 65 support from his win in 2016. Trump won by 80,000 votes, he has no margin to work with, has done nothing to expand his base, losing seniors his is death knell. At least the seniors don't look the other way when he causes death on 5th avenue.

Essential Politics: Trump'''s big problem is seniors - Los Angeles Times
Coronavirus leads some Pa. senior voters to sour on Trump in favor of Biden
For some seniors, COVID-19 is shifting their views of Trump - CSMonitor.com

but, you think he is going to win... let's hear your case.
 
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In no particular order:

Stacey Abrams
Val Demings
Susan Rice
Kamala Harris


 
upsideguy said:
If Trump had done a good job, we would have been locked down for a month. But, he did a piss poor job as evidenced by the fact that we are now emerging, yet the outbreak is not under control. A large part of the unemployment now and later will be because of Trump's ineptness. While some may give him a pass (some will look the other way at him killing people on 5th avenue, which he did btw), those that are sitting unemployed in November will not. Of course, he will also have to deal with the ledger of deaths attributed to his ineptness, but that is another discussion.

Good for Trump that he inherited a good economy and then declared it his own. Unfortunate for him, he will exit with a poor economy which most people will fault him for. Good luck coming in; bad luck heading out. But, hey, better to have bad luck than no luck at all.

But, back to your point, why would anyone trust a Republican with their 401(k) when over the last 100 years the Dems have had 6.3x the returns of Republicans. You didn't answer that one.

Democrats Vs. Republicans: Who Is Better For The Stock Market?
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No matter what Trump did you lefties would TDS. Post all the links you want. This election boils down to which man do we pick to restore jobs and the stock market. Trump or Biden. There is a statistical 0 that Americans will pick Biden for that job. You would have to be retarded to vote your retirement and childrens futures down the toilet just to satiate your TDS. Americans will never do that. In the end, the people who vote are the ones who would most worry about this. Its simply never going to happen.
 
AlphaOmega said:
No matter what Trump did you lefties would TDS. Post all the links you want. This election boils down to which man do we pick to restore jobs and the stock market. Trump or Biden. There is a statistical 0 that Americans will pick Biden for that job. You would have to be retarded to vote your retirement and childrens futures down the toilet just to satiate your TDS. Americans will never do that. In the end, the people who vote are the ones who would most worry about this. Its simply never going to happen.
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You are arguing your emotion and ignorance here. You don't like my cites because they remind you that you live in your own little fact free fantasy world. You make statements that you can not articulate nor defend. I offer you arguments that you lack the knowledge and understanding to effectively rebut.

The "TDS" you cite is shared by most of the free world and most of America, which by definition means it is not derangement; it is normalcy. What "TDS" really is, is delusion. The idea that Trump is a real President by American standards. Thinking the Trump presidency is normal, is actually delusional.

Its not "lefties" that think Trump screwed up the pandemic response, its most of the world. Even Mitch McConnell refuses to say 'good job', while the Lancet, the British medical journal, blasts him.

Trump's mismanagement helped fuel coronavirus crisis - POLITICO
Coronavirus is exposing Trump's unsuitability to handle a crisis
Donald Trump blew chance to unite America in coronavirus crisis: Kelly
Coronavirus: Experts give Trump '''abysmal''' grades on pandemic response - Business Insider
Trump's mismanagement helped fuel coronavirus crisis - POLITICO
https://www.wbur.org/cognoscenti/2020/03/12/donald-trump-coronavirus-response-miles-howard
https://www.npr.org/2020/03/12/814887953/how-trumps-mismanagement-helped-fuel-coronavirus-crisis
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/16/trump-maga-coronavirus-movement-130831
https://www.businessinsider.com/how-trump-us-botched-coronavirus-pandemic-response-2020-3
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli.../coronavirus-trump-covid-19-pandemic-response
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/28/trump-coronavirus-politics-us-health-disaster
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/wh...e-house-bungled-coronavirus-response-n1158746
https://khn.org/morning-breakout/cu...they-say-led-to-bungled-response-to-outbreak/
https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion...0200415-x2ee73idevaifguqdbygnilyve-story.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/20/poli...lert-cdc-white-house-tensions-invs/index.html
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.15.20103655v1.full.pdf
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/30/trump-scapegoats-china-and-who-and-americans-will-suffer/
https://www.courier-journal.com/sto...p-mishandled-coronavirus-pandemic/5095995002/
https://theconversation.com/donald-...e-coronavirus-crisis-will-voters-agree-135205
https://fortune.com/2020/03/23/presidential-crisis-management-trump-coronavirus/
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-52579200
https://theintercept.com/2020/04/02/is-donald-trump-criminally-responsible-for-coronavirus-deaths/
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/14/trump-coronavirus-health-care-crisis/
https://www.ft.com/content/80aa0b58-7010-11ea-9bca-bf503995cd6f

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31140-5/fulltext

You see, the idea that Trump screwed this up is conventional wisdom. This is why I can come up with lots of cites and you can come up with none. Face it, he cost American lives and dollars, which is why he has almost no chance of being re-elected.

You still haven't explained why anyone would trust Trump or any Republican with their 401(k)s given that over the past 100 years the Democratic stock market outperforms the Republican stock market 6 to 1.
 
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AlphaOmega said:
This election boils down to which man do we pick to restore jobs and the stock market.
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Yep. do we want the man who's admin ended the great bush recession or the man who collapsed the economy. The choice will be very clear this november.
 
He really does't have much of a choice.
And from this side of the isle, no matter who he picks, if ideologically aligned, they suck.
 
Linc said:
I want that that hat. It would also make a good logo on a mask to match the nazi/kkk masks.
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I couldn't wear it in my area of Indiana. I'd probably get shot.
 
AlphaOmega said:
So let me get this straight. After the shutdown and the nation being near economic collapse, you think America is going to pick Joe Biden to recover their retirement funds and jobs when he is the epitome of the do nothing politician? I find that hilarious.
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You really need to do some research. Joe is well liked on both sides of the aisle and was the go to man for Obama when it came to negotiations.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
 
AlphaOmega said:
I am going to enjoy November.
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Me too!

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