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Sexual assault against every candidate?

Do you think a woman would fabricate charges against a political candidate for political reasons?

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    Votes: 6 19.4%

  • Yes they would

    Votes: 23 74.2%

  • No they wouldn't

    Votes: 2 6.5%
  • Total voters
    31
  • Poll closed .
Citizen said:
But Bloomberg is out of the race. This is about Biden and trump. BTW, I would have voted for Bloomberg too
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Bloomberg may be out of the race but he is not out of a shot at the nomination if Groper Joe goes down. In fact he is the only one who has the cash on hand to be able to stand up a campaign on short notice and fund it to November.
 
Drawdown said:
Bloomberg may be out of the race but he is not out of a shot at the nomination if Groper Joe goes down. In fact he is the only one who has the cash on hand to be able to stand up a campaign on short notice and fund it to November.
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The votes are in Biden won’t he primary. The only ones who could choose another candidate if Biden steps down is the delegates at the convention
 
Novalis said:
Why does the American media give space to such news?
If a woman is raped, she can be examined, evidence can be secured and criminal charges can be filed.
If a woman tells such stories after 1 or 30 years and the media and society is taking a fancy to it, it is sick. Your society is sick. These women wallow in public because they see advantages.
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So, I'm guessing you're not a part of the "#me too" movement....:lol:
 
Citizen said:
The votes are in Biden won’t he primary. The only ones who could choose another candidate if Biden steps down is the delegates at the convention
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So until the middle of August Bloomberg is still a possible nominee.....assuming there is a convention because the middle of August is also when the Coronavirus peak is likely to come throughout most of fly-over country.
 
Drawdown said:
So until the middle of August Bloomberg is still a possible nominee.....assuming there is a convention because the middle of August is also when the Coronavirus peak is likely to come throughout most of fly-over country.
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Bloomberg does not have enough delegates. He did terrible on Super Tuesday. Sanders would be next in line
 
Cardinal said:
She could if she’s committed to it. Republicans threatened to fabricate fake sexual assault allegations as revenge for Kavanaugh, and here we are.

Republicans are simultaneously destroying the “me too” movement and wielding it like a fully powered Infinity Stone gauntlet to get Biden out of the race.
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Not true.
 
mike2810 said:
Ever wonder why she made no fuss when Biden was selected to be VP?
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According to her, she was a big Obama supporter and didn't want to hurt his chances of winning.
 
mrdeltoid said:
According to her, she was a big Obama supporter and didn't want to hurt his chances of winning.
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if that is her reason, I really question her logic. Joe good enough to be VP despite sexually attacking me. But not good enough to be President.

For some reason I am not buying her statements.
 
Cardinal said:
It’s peak Republican Party that you think something should be believed even after it’s been discredited. It describes basically everything about a party that has mainstreamed conspiracy theory culture.
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Which is why it's called a cult.
 
mrdeltoid said:
According to her, she was a big Obama supporter and didn't want to hurt his chances of winning.
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And you believe that? He had been in the Senate continuously from 1971 to 2009. She didn't want to hurt Biden's chances of winning then. How do you explain that? How does she explain that?
 
Drawdown said:
I voted for Bloomberg and see him as the only realistic alternative at this point to come back in so examining the veracity of this accusation has relevance to my decision making going forward. Sorry if that reminds you your party is on the path to nominating a predator if it doesn't act against him they way they pretend to want to act against carbon.
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That's a bizzarre post. Joe Biden doesn't have NDA's with former employees. We know who does. Calling Joe Biden a predator is pretty out there. Kinda krayzyee.
 
mrdeltoid said:
According to her, she was a big Obama supporter and didn't want to hurt his chances of winning.
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She still praised Biden a lot during that time. There was no reason to do so. She supported Biden at least as much as Obama then.

She could have come forward before Obama was actually elected, when she first heard he was considering or had nominated Biden. Why didn't she? It wouldn't have hurt Obamas chances of winning. There really was no reason not, after all she claims to have had the courage to come forward against her husband when he was abusing and stalking her, almost killed her.

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mike2810 said:
if that is her reason, I really question her logic. Joe good enough to be VP despite sexually attacking me. But not good enough to be President.

For some reason I am not buying her statements.
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Maybe, but truth be told, VP makes little difference to most voters anyway. People vote for the top of the ticket. Look at Bill Clinton. He had many women accuse him of sexual harassment, sexual assault etc. He killed it when it comes to women voters. I'm not saying she's telling the truth, only her and Biden know that. But is it believable? Biden has a long history of creepy behavior, swimming naked in front of female secret service agents, hair sniffing, groping young kids, plagiarism, he even lied about the truck driver that was driving the truck in the accident that killed his wife and kid, saying he was a drunk driver. It haunted that guy to his death. His daughter had to go on a crusade to clear up her fathers good name. Bidens wife ran a stop sign.

" " Mr. Dunn, who died in 1999, hit the station wagon driven by 30-year-old Neilia Biden as she drove to buy a Christmas tree with the Bidens’ three young children: Beau, 4; Hunter, 3, and Naomi, 13 months.

The rig overturned as Mr. Dunn swerved to avoid the collision, but he “ran to the wrecked car and was the first to offer assistance,” the Post reported.
Now-retired Delaware Superior Court Judge Jerome O. Herlihy, who oversaw the investigation as chief deputy attorney general, told Politico, “She had a stop sign. The truck driver did not.”
In 2008, he told the Post that rumors about alcohol playing a role in the accident were “incorrect"."
 
Of course some women will abuse the process and fabricate stories to ruin the reputation of a man. However, one has to ask how common this is and what the motives of the woman might be. Coming forward is not an easy thing to do. It will usually be a he said/she said situation. So one has to look further into both the victim and the accused. I think I can safely say that what constitutes harassment has changed over time making some acts that were quite common unable to age well. A rape though has always been a rape. So who to believe? My gut is to consider the woman truthful until proven differently. How do you prove it differently? That is another very hard thing to do. So the moral of this story is that men do get away with murder in this regard, women have no chance unless there is direct evidence or a witness. A man who is unjustly accused is in the same boat. The photo that took down Al Franken initiated a witch hunt. The accusation of rape by Trump in a dressing room is a far different matter. Tough calls either way.
 
roguenuke said:
She still praised Biden a lot during that time. There was no reason to do so. She supported Biden at least as much as Obama then.

She could have come forward before Obama was actually elected, when she first heard he was considering or had nominated Biden. Why didn't she? It wouldn't have hurt Obamas chances of winning. There really was no reason not, after all she claims to have had the courage to come forward against her husband when he was abusing and stalking her, almost killed her.

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Yeah, somethings fishy, for sure. I can't really speak to the mindset of a sexual assault victim, as I have no idea what it's like. If I had to make a "gun to my head decision" all I can go by is his track record. She's a lifelong democrat, said she wouldn't vote for Trump, so motive is a real mystery. As far as Biden's track record goes, he's pretty creepy, and has told quite a few whoppers. I'd say he prolly did it. It crossed my mind that they may have had a fling, and maybe she's a " woman scorned". I dunno. I'm pretty partisan so, it's hard for me to be objective on something like this. It won't make a difference anyway. Biden voters aren't going to vote for Trump, and Visa-versa.
 
Vadinho said:
Of course some women will abuse the process and fabricate stories to ruin the reputation of a man. However, one has to ask how common this is and what the motives of the woman might be. Coming forward is not an easy thing to do. It will usually be a he said/she said situation. So one has to look further into both the victim and the accused. I think I can safely say that what constitutes harassment has changed over time making some acts that were quite common unable to age well. A rape though has always been a rape. So who to believe? My gut is to consider the woman truthful until proven differently. How do you prove it differently? That is another very hard thing to do. So the moral of this story is that men do get away with murder in this regard, women have no chance unless there is direct evidence or a witness. A man who is unjustly accused is in the same boat. The photo that took down Al Franken initiated a witch hunt. The accusation of rape by Trump in a dressing room is a far different matter. Tough calls either way.
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Are you saying the burden of proof should be on the accused, to prove their innocence, in cases of rape?
 
mrdeltoid said:
Are you saying the burden of proof should be on the accused, to prove their innocence, in cases of rape?
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No but the reality of these cases is that it is hard to convict without evidence. This makes these cases very difficult for all involved. Do I think most women tell the truth in rape cases? You bet.
 
mrdeltoid said:
Yeah, somethings fishy, for sure. I can't really speak to the mindset of a sexual assault victim, as I have no idea what it's like. If I had to make a "gun to my head decision" all I can go by is his track record. She's a lifelong democrat, said she wouldn't vote for Trump, so motive is a real mystery. As far as Biden's track record goes, he's pretty creepy, and has told quite a few whoppers. I'd say he prolly did it. It crossed my mind that they may have had a fling, and maybe she's a " woman scorned". I dunno. I'm pretty partisan so, it's hard for me to be objective on something like this. It won't make a difference anyway. Biden voters aren't going to vote for Trump, and Visa-versa.
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Motive isn't a mystery though. There are people who believe if Biden drops out, refuses the nomination, Bernie will get it. And what is her demand, that Biden drop out.

I have been a victim of sexual assault. Not only would I not praise the person who did it, I cannot see my mother claiming I respected him if she knew. Her words in that same situation would be "fear", regardless of what I told her. If she used the word "respect" as a description, it would be dripping with derision, sarcasm.

Then there is this from reporters who were working her story from last year, pursuing it.

The agonizing story of Tara Reade and her sexual assault allegation against Joe Biden - Vox

It is being presented as if the media is ignoring her, hiding her story. But the truth is that they were trying to verify her story, as is normal and can take months, years, from last year. She spoke with reporters from multiple news sources, different reporters, men and women, yet she basically threw them under the bus when she made the sexual assault accusation because she didn't share any of that with them when they tried to help her. She in fact lied to them, as did her friend. Why would they simply accept what she was saying after that? Why should people believe her?

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Vadinho said:
No but the reality of these cases is that it is hard to convict without evidence. This makes these cases very difficult for all involved. Do I think most women tell the truth in rape cases? You bet.
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I agree
 
roguenuke said:
Motive isn't a mystery though. There are people who believe if Biden drops out, refuses the nomination, Bernie will get it. And what is her demand, that Biden drop out.

I have been a victim of sexual assault. Not only would I not praise the person who did it, I cannot see my mother claiming I respected him if she knew. Her words in that same situation would be "fear", regardless of what I told her. If she used the word "respect" as a description, it would be dripping with derision, sarcasm.

Then there is this from reporters who were working her story from last year, pursuing it.

The agonizing story of Tara Reade and her sexual assault allegation against Joe Biden - Vox

It is being presented as if the media is ignoring her, hiding her story. But the truth is that they were trying to verify her story, as is normal and can take months, years, from last year. She spoke with reporters from multiple news sources, different reporters, men and women, yet she basically threw them under the bus when she made the sexual assault accusation because she didn't share any of that with them when they tried to help her. She in fact lied to them, as did her friend. Why would they simply accept what she was saying after that? Why should people believe her?

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Dunno. I still think that most people that believer her are pubbies, and the ones that don't are dems. JMHO
PS I'm sorry that happened to you
 
mrdeltoid said:
Dunno. I still think that most people that believer her are pubbies, and the ones that don't are dems. JMHO
PS I'm sorry that happened to you
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There are plenty of Bernie supporters who believe her. Really I believe there are plenty of Repubs who don't believe her and some Dems that do.

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swing_voter said:
Anita Hill charged Clarence Thomas with sexual harassment. She said he picked one of his hairs off a coke can and called it a pubic hair.

Christine Blasey Ford accused Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault while they were all drunk at some teen party thirty years ago.

Tara Reade said Joe Biden Fingered her in the hallway of the senate.

Trump has like sixteen sexual assault and harassment charges against him.

Do you think a woman would fabricate charges against a political candidate for political reasons?
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It helps when bails of money are thrown at them to perform.
 
Novalis said:
Why does the American media give space to such news?
If a woman is raped, she can be examined, evidence can be secured and criminal charges can be filed.
If a woman tells such stories after 1 or 30 years and the media and society is taking a fancy to it, it is sick. Your society is sick. These women wallow in public because they see advantages.
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Like I said many people believe the end justifies the means. If the mainstream media didn't think the allegations against Donald Trump,Bret Kavanaugh or Clarence Thomas or any other republican would have benefited democrats then they would have never aired those claims. If Fox News and other right leaning media sources didn't think the allegations against Joe Biden or any other democrat would benefit republicans then they wouldn't have bothered with the allegations. Lying sacks of shit exist in both parties who will do any and everything to ensure their side wins no matter what.
 
jamesrage said:
Like I said many people believe the end justifies the means. If the mainstream media didn't think the allegations against Donald Trump,Bret Kavanaugh or Clarence Thomas or any other republican would have benefited democrats then they would have never aired those claims. If Fox News and other right leaning media sources didn't think the allegations against Joe Biden or any other democrat would benefit republicans then they wouldn't have bothered with the allegations. Lying sacks of shit exist in both parties who will do any and everything to ensure their side wins no matter what.
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Then be glad that there are right and left mass media in the USA.
In Germany there are no right-wing mass media.
 
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