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[W:184]How do you like this “new normal”?

How do you like this “new normal”?


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Your very low number of Americans that have tested positive is only due to LACK of TESTING.

You could be right, but what does that tell you?
 
You're claiming a vast conspiracy with the intent to keep the US in lockdown forever. That's insane.

Like nowhere did I say anything like that but if there were, I’m sure they’d, no doubt, appreciate your support.
 
Like nowhere did I say anything like that but if there were, I’m sure they’d, no doubt, appreciate your support.

It's all a conspiracy. They're tricking you.

I wish I could trust that those in leadership positions actually want to return to normal.
 
Like nowhere did I say anything like that but if there were, I’m sure they’d, no doubt, appreciate your support.

Sadly, he has a pattern of accusing others of things they've never written and assigned motivations they've never thought... Much like the last few beauties he's authored.
 
Heh, you know state governments love this. Massive budget cuts and unemployment, hundreds and thousands of people infected and/or dying. They are jumping for joy and stuff.
 
What do people's 'feelings' have to do with it? Most intelligent people look at a variety of sources, use some critical thinking to develop an informed opinion, and then use their moral compass to generate their perspective.

Why should you be overly concerned whether Trump is going to claim victory over the virus?
You know there will be no 'victory' over Covid-19 unless a vaccine really works.
And it won't be because of Trump if it really works.
Get off the hate Trump train and respond to the poll.
What should the public be doing now that so many states are backing away from lockdowns?
Surely you have an opinion on that that doesn't show how much you hate the duly elected president of this country.
 
Believe me, I’ve been made well aware of just how how little freedom and the constitution matters to some. It is unsurprising to me who tends to come out in favor of maintaining the maximum level of control for as long as possible.

Oh, spare me the hyperbole and the high horse talk....
 
It's definitely worth it, so we can keep cases down and prevent the hospitals from being overwhelmed.

I agree with that but there are also common sense ways to get tons of people back to work too... I have said it before, most of us here at DP are probably middle to upper middle class or retired... we are still getting pay checks or supported by parents who are or are nearing or in retirement... I have not heard of any story here where a person who lost their job was nearing financial ruin, can't feed their kids, etc. There are millions and millions of people that this is happening to though. The reality is that we can not stay home forever... or even a whole year.
 
We have people out jogging, on the beach, shopping, going to pick up subway sandwich, etc etc etc.... but other businesses are shut down. It is so stupid. Why can I not go buy a new oven at our version of Home Depot? Keep the number of people let into the store at a certain level... keep people apart, etc... but no. Can't buy an oven. Can't pick up a Pizza Hut pizza at their store but we can pick up Burger King at their store... WTF?

Tell the authorities you demand consistency in how the laws are enforced.
Just like here in the States where we have 50 states with 50 governors deciding how to come off the lockdown without incurring the ire of a capricious president.
 
Oh, spare me the hyperbole and the high horse talk....

It’s not hyperbole. It’s the government actually flat out telling us who we can be with and who we can’t, whether we can gather in a church parking lot or not, whether we can come together in protest or not. How does the constitution not even come up in your mind?
 
Where I live, you can't even go to a beach in many areas. Our state's governor has been 1 of the most authoritarian in all this mess, and all it's doing is causing more isolation, more anti-social behavior, and more devastation to the economy.

I guess some people are fine with sitting home all day, collecting unemployment checks, and staring at their screens, but many others are frustrated and want this crap to end.

I assume you live in Orange County... none of CA's other beaches are closed and authoritarian does not sound like Oregon and people don't really go tot the beach in Washington, do they?
 
Tell the authorities you demand consistency in how the laws are enforced.
Just like here in the States where we have 50 states with 50 governors deciding how to come off the lockdown without incurring the ire of a capricious president.

We are opening back up to almost normal next week... Level 2. Pretty much everything should be open per normal except for social distancing remaining in place.
 
It’s not hyperbole. It’s the government actually flat out telling us who we can be with and who we can’t, whether we can gather in a church parking lot or not, whether we can come together in protest or not. How does the constitution not even come up in your mind?

Can you scream "Fire" in a crowded theater?

Your rights end where mine begin, its about taking responsibility and manning up. Your perceived loss of rights is just ponderous.
 
What we’ve done is no joke or no minor thing either and people being hurt should matter too. People are telling me that nobody likes are wants this kind of control but that is not what I’m seeing.

Nobody does "like" this. It's about what's necessary not what we like. I'd "like" for this pandemic to be over, but that's clearly not going to happen anytime soon, not until we can get a vaccine in development, and then mass produce it. We obviously can't stay closed forever, so I am supportive of limited opening measures being put in place, but social distancing guidelines need to remain for the foreseeable future. I've had a family member and a few friends that have had the virus, and thankfully, they've all gotten over it. The fact that this thing spreads so easily and quickly, is more than enough reason to support social distancing guidelines, so we don't get an explosion of cases.

I don't like this either, and I wish I could wave a magic wand, so all of my summer plans could come back. But I can't do that, so the only thing that I can do is continue to be as vigilant as possible to keep myself and the ones that I care about safe.
 
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I agree with that but there are also common sense ways to get tons of people back to work too... I have said it before, most of us here at DP are probably middle to upper middle class or retired... we are still getting pay checks or supported by parents who are or are nearing or in retirement... I have not heard of any story here where a person who lost their job was nearing financial ruin, can't feed their kids, etc. There are millions and millions of people that this is happening to though. The reality is that we can not stay home forever... or even a whole year.

I agree that we can't stay home forever, so when we do open up (slowly), we have to keeo the necessary social distancing guidelines in place.

Y'all in New Zealand have done a spectacular job at keeping COVID-19 cases down, so y'all have a good backing for opening up.
 
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I assume you live in Orange County... none of CA's other beaches are closed and authoritarian does not sound like Oregon and people don't really go tot the beach in Washington, do they?

I live in Riverside County which isn't near the coast, but coastal Orange County would be the nearest beach for me.

It's not that I really care to spend my time at the beaches, but I don't want to be restricted from going where I want just because a small percentage of the population doesn't have enough resistance to a virus.
 
Can you scream "Fire" in a crowded theater?

Your rights end where mine begin, its about taking responsibility and manning up. Your perceived loss of rights is just ponderous.

I get it. You support the government prohibiting assembly and protest and will support it now into the foreseeable future. I don’t. You have no inherent right to tell me I cannot go to church. The risk of this virus does not justify the rampant trampling of constitutional rights that you support. Let me know at what point you’d actually oppose your government masters if ever, until then you continue to be content.
 
I get it. You support the government prohibiting assembly and protest and will support it now into the foreseeable future. I don’t. You have no inherent right to tell me I cannot go to church. The risk of this virus does not justify the rampant trampling of constitutional rights that you support. Let me know at what point you’d actually oppose your government masters if ever, until then you continue to be content.

As usual, you put words into other people's mouths, because you can't argue.

If you really love your Jesus, you don't need a church to do it in, sounds like a weakness to me.
 
I agree that we can't stay home forever, so when we do open up (slowly), we have to keeo the necessary social distancing guidelines in place.

Y'all in New Zealand have done a spectacular job at keeping COVID-19 cases down, so y'all have a good backing for opening up.

But y'all have to remember that New Zealand has opposite seasons compared to the USA and Europe.

All the southern hemisphere had very few confirmed cases compared to the northern hemisphere, and I don't think it was all because more people live in the northern hemisphere, or even because of extensive social distancing.

Viruses tend to wane during the summer and early fall, and that's the season New Zealand was in when the outbreak began. I'm not sure if Corona will be on the decline once we transition into summer but most other viruses do, including the flu.
 
Nobody does "like" this. It's about what's necessary not what we like. I'd "like" for this pandemic to be over, but that's clearly not going to happen anytime soon, not until we can get a vaccine in development, and then mass produce it. We obviously can't stay closed forever, so I am supportive of limited opening measures being put in place, but social distancing guidelines need to remain for the foreseeable future. I've had a family member and a few friends that have had the virus, and thankfully, they've all gotten over it. The fact that this thing spreads so easily and quickly, is more than enough reason to support social distancing guidelines, so we don't get an explosion of cases.

I don't like this either, and I wish I could wave a magic wand, so all of my summer plans could come back. But I can't do that, so the only thing that I can do is continue to be as vigilant as possible to keep myself and the ones that I care about safe.

At some point it has to be up to people to keep themselves safe. There are a ton of other things that kill us that government could hugely mitigate so where does it end?
 
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Y'all in New Zealand have done a spectacular job at keeping COVID-19 cases down, so y'all have a good backing for opening up.

The government leans heavily upon my advice...
 
As usual, you put words into other people's mouths, because you can't argue.

If you really love your Jesus, you don't need a church to do it in, sounds like a weakness to me.

It’s not your business how I worship and you don’t get to decide that for me, sorry. I do love it when people that bash Christianity tell what it means to be a good Christian.
 
At some point it has to be up to people to keep themselves safe. There are a ton of other things that kill us that government
hugely mitigate so where does it end?

Preferably when we get a handle on mass testing, at least from what's recommended by medical experts. It really all depends on how we open up, that's going to determine how it will impact us when the fall season hits.
 
It’s not your business how I worship and you don’t get to decide that for me, sorry. I do love it when people that bash Christianity tell what it means to be a good Christian.

That's because people don't believe you're being a good Christian. You understand that, right?
 
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