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Do you need an AR15 to protest?

Do you need an AR15 to protest?

  • No, you don't need an AR15

    Votes: 32 62.7%
  • AR15's are threatening

    Votes: 6 11.8%
  • Yes, flamethrowers are good too

    Votes: 9 17.6%
  • Katanas were made for protests

    Votes: 3 5.9%
  • Peaceful protest is the only option

    Votes: 6 11.8%
  • Don't tread on me!

    Votes: 11 21.6%

  • Total voters
    51
  • Poll closed .
True, but on this board it is rather one sided. My signature shows some of the massive lies that come from the anti gun side.

To be truthful I haven't seen a really true anti gun side on this thread , course it would depend on what you consider "ANT GUN?
Side note; if you had ask me what kind of or how many guns I have .
I would have simply said "none of your damn business".:peace:
 
The Spencer rifle I;m talking about was lever action , maybe was military in the 1800's but this is 2020.
Still a good Spencer rifle would stop just about anybody or anything if used properly.

Since when is 22 cal, standard military issue ???:peace

NATO Standard round. 5.56m,=.223. 22 caliber bullet. you didn't know that?
 
To be truthful I haven't seen a really true anti gun side on this thread , course it would depend on what you consider "ANT GUN?
Side note; if you had ask me what kind of or how many guns I have .
I would have simply said "none of your damn business".:peace:

There are a couple on this thread but I was talking about the board.

btw that is a good answer to such a question.
 
NATO Standard round. 5.56m,=.223. 22 caliber bullet. you didn't know that?


No it's not. A .223 won't find in a .22 chamber. It's bigger.

The .223 is expelled with such force that you have to "jacket" the bullet so that it will catch the rifling.
 
No it's not. A .223 won't find in a .22 chamber. It's bigger.

The .223 is expelled with such force that you have to "jacket" the bullet so that it will catch the rifling.

wrong-you are thinking .22 means a 22 rimfire. you are confusing CHAMBER size with BARREL DIAMETER. you can shoot a 22 caliber rife out of a .223 rifle if you have a rimfire adapter. that means the bullet diameter is essentially the same. the following are all .22 caliber rifles

.22 Hornet
220 swift
222
223
22-250
22 WM
22 Long
22 short
22 Long Rifle
22 PPC
221 Remington Fireball

among others
 
Alas, another sore winner.

A rightwinger's work is never done izzit.

If you are not serving cheese with your whine, no one wants to hear it. Time to grow up and get over it.
 
Do you need an AR-15 to protest? Only if you want to begin a Boogaloo.
 
Do you need an AR-15 to protest? Only if you want to begin a Boogaloo.

I agree with you here-now if the protest was over anti gun nonsense, it might be different. But for the clampdowns, it only hurts people hearing the message.
 
I agree with you here-now if the protest was over anti gun nonsense, it might be different. But for the clampdowns, it only hurts people hearing the message.

That was their intent. How many Michiganders fly the Confederate flag?
 
stupid ones-why emulate the side that lost?

That's why they were there to promote a race war. Let's get real about the weapons that are used at these protests. It's not to assert the 2nd Am. but to promote a race war against liberals and minorities by domestic extremists and militia movements.
 
wrong-you are thinking .22 means a 22 rimfire. you are confusing CHAMBER size with BARREL DIAMETER. you can shoot a 22 caliber rife out of a .223 rifle if you have a rimfire adapter. that means the bullet diameter is essentially the same. the following are all .22 caliber rifles

.22 Hornet
220 swift
222
223
22-250
22 WM
22 Long
22 short
22 Long Rifle
22 PPC
221 Remington Fireball

among others

Like I said, a .223 won't fit in a 22 chamber.
 
That's why they were there to promote a race war. Let's get real about the weapons that are used at these protests. It's not to assert the 2nd Am. but to promote a race war against liberals and minorities by domestic extremists and militia movements.

Maybe some are-maybe some are pissed off being denied their rights by an overstepping governor.

I am not going to deny that those protests often attract some on the fringe that have more extreme agendas. And it happens on both sides-people protesting say the police shooting of an unarmed black youth in Cincinnati, attracted hard core cop haters screaming for cops to be killed.
 
Like I said, a .223 won't fit in a 22 chamber.

Like I said-you don't understand bore diameter. a 223 won't fit into a 22 hornet chamber either even though the bullets are the same diameter.
 
stupid ones-why emulate the side that lost?
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At no time in any of my post did I say this or that American shouldn't own any guns

I didn't say that you did.

I have stated any honest hard working America should have the right to buy a gun I stand by that statement .
If you are waiting for me to say every American should be able to buy a gun that I can not do.

OK, but...

Because in my humble opinion there are some people out there who should not have the right to purchase gun or even own a gun.
In my own family there are a few I wouldn't sell a gun even to if I could.

You just declared that "any honest hard working America should have the right to buy a gun." You even "stood by that statement." Then you declared that "there are some...who should not have the right to purchase [a] gun."
 
You paint a dim picture of the RIGHT WING , to which some degree I agree.

However what has the Democrats offered Pelosi ? Shumer? the so called Utopian society where we treat everybody kind , sit around and sing KUM BI YA , and wait for better days,? Obama tried that he wanted to please everybody in politics he forgot about the American people who were waiting for that big change that never came.

Oh, don't confuse me:

The DNC is as weak as it has ever been. Despite the clear evidence, Democrats have allowed Republicans to brand them as weak on communism, weak on terrorism, and weak on illegal immigration. Instead of defending themselves properly, they constantly cowered and sought to "prove" themselves, which legitimized Republican radical accusations. And ever since Clinton codified it in 1999, the Democratic Party has been riding the GOP-led Big Business bus too.

What the Democrats have to offer? I would only point out that it's the Democrats who still believe in science, aren't playing a radical game like the Republican "Party of No" is, and allows experts to actually matter. Trump turned to Pelosi for a social plan on March 12, whereas the GOP handed him a bail-out package over that weekend with holes that would allow funds to be siphoned by Big Business donors (after Trump dismissed the oversight). To correct this, the GOP simply created a new package, in which Democrats have had to closer inspect because they just can't trust what Republicans do with money anymore.

And despite Obama's inability to reverse the nation's course, the DNC remains the only Party that still deals in logic, reason, and political cooperation. Now, Republicans would have everybody believe that it is the Democrats who see the world through a partisan lens, but they are very wrong. It was not the Democrats who put up the political walls throughout Obama's tenure. This was Republicans, as engineered by Boehner, McConnell, and Ryan. They commenced to deny legislation for eight years simply on the basis that it came from Democrats. They even shut down tax-cut plans. They consistently used radical terminology and conspiracy nonsense, in which FOX News promoted. They created an irrational mob, then lost control of that mob. The clear sign here was when the GOP and the other Republican candidates begged conservatives not to vote for Trump in the 2016 Primaries. And now that Republicans have chosen to defend who is surely going down in history as as one of the very worst in American presidential history, they need Democrats to be branded as the partisan ones in order to get away with it. <---And with this, we see an example of why Democrats have been weak ever since they cowered from McCarthyism.

I have plenty of criticism for Democrats and Obama. The issues range from economic bumbling to foreign policy fumbling, but the issues have nothing to do with Pelosi or Schumer. They were and are not Presidents. The conservative whining about those figures today include not allowing Trump to get away with clear treason, whereas the GOP approved of it and got away with pretending that it was the Democrats who were playing a simple political game. <---Again, we see an example of why Democrats have been weak ever since they cowered from McCarthyism.

Look I'm as easy going as the next person , I want to try to find a common ground, but in the political arena today there is no common ground there is either right wing or left wing leaving the American people with once more to choose between the lesser of 2 evils.

However the American people are not stupid any politician makes too many mistakes people will grow tired of making excuses for them .:peace

But this is not exactly true. Ever notice that there is no "RINO" equivalent among Democrats? Trump once called the Center-Right leaning Wall Street Journal "fake news." And were neo-Nazis and White Supremacists featured at Democrat rallies in 2016? My point is that, according to Conservative behavior and the media studies, America has a Left, a Center, and a ----> far-Right. It is not the Left wing that has left the average American citizen, especially when even the center-Right is considered "the Left" by Conservatives. Note in the chart below the huge gap on the right side, between what is left of the center-Right and the actual Right. This shows a clear jump to political extremism. There is no gap on the left side. Note how close FOX News sits to Infowars, a source that started the rumor about millions of illegals voting for Hillary in 2016. This was reported by FOX News; and immediately Tweeted by Trump to the masses. Now, consider that FOX News is the "most watched." American Conservatives generally sit near the gate of the alt-Right anymore. Clearly, plenty of the American people are stupid.

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To the posters I've been posting with, I must apologize , for I will not be able to continue for awhile , there has been a death in my family.

I will be off Debate Politics for at least a week sorry for the inconvenience.
 
So what do you want from the 2nd amendment?

AR 15s, LAWS, Stinger Missiles , a Tank , Chain machine gun, maybe throw in some Clamor mines ???
More of the usual anti-2nd amendment trash absurdities of since nukes are illegal for civilians to own so its okay to ban "scary looking" semiautomatic firearms.

In 1800's Indians could not legally buy rifles , why?
In the early 1900's African Americans could not legally buy weapons , why
Answer to both questions because Indians were killing white people, because African Americans had guns in the south in 1940's and 50's they would have been killing white people.
Today 10 shootings in 11 months in 2019, white , black and brown people.

SO you used examples of people in the past whose 2nd amendment rights were taken away(by democrats) while trying to claim no one is trying to take away our 2nd amendment rights(even though democrats are trying to do the same thing again today).


To ask permission from the government to buy a gun is just like asking permission to get a driver's license or to drive my car with or without a seat belt.
Driving on a public road is a state granted privileged. Buying,owning and carrying a firearm is not a state granted privilege,but a Constitutional right. Because its a Constitutional right You don't need permission from the government to buy,own and carry a gun.

I repeat I support the 2nd amendment and what it stands for the right to bear arms, just like I support the freedom of Press, and the freedom of speech
Which of these amendments to the Constitution of the United States do the Right wing Republicans question???:peace

If you support freedom of the press and freedom of speech like you do the 2nd amendment then you probably believe the media shouldn't be allowed to report certain things and that hate speech laws and laws against speaking out against the government are okay.
 
More of the usual anti-2nd amendment trash absurdities of since nukes are illegal for civilians to own so its okay to ban "scary looking" semiautomatic firearms.



SO you used examples of people in the past whose 2nd amendment rights were taken away(by democrats) while trying to claim no one is trying to take away our 2nd amendment rights(even though democrats are trying to do the same thing again today).



Driving on a public road is a state granted privileged. Buying,owning and carrying a firearm is not a state granted privilege,but a Constitutional right. Because its a Constitutional right You don't need permission from the government to buy,own and carry a gun.



If you support freedom of the press and freedom of speech like you do the 2nd amendment then you probably believe the media shouldn't be allowed to report certain things and that hate speech laws and laws against speaking out against the government are okay.

Sorry I'mate answering your post but I did post the reason in post #370.

Now , in answer to your post.

I can't understand your ethics are you saying it's o k to actually sell guns to mentally ill people or people with a history of violent behavior??
I have quoted ever Honest hard working average American has the right to own a gun I stand by that.

People of the past deserved to be limited not to buy guns.If you lived in Arizona in the 1800's you would not sell guns to Apache Indians if you got caught you would be arrested. These are merely facts nothing more.

I big to differ every state road is funded by the taxpayer , federal or not it is how they will vote that gives privilege., in some states it's not that much of a privilege some state roads can be a bit rocky, just like every American that has a good paying job has the privilege of paying Local , State and Federal taxes. some privilege fo the middle class anyway.?

Ah the old standard the Media . To disagree with the Government or Politicians was once just an expected thing to deal with , presidents get made fun of , government officials being questioned , was pretty much an American way of life. However , since Trump it's all this crap about "it's fake news" "it's the deep state" it's the reporters ask me hard questions" or the old "Governors could respect me more" . Trump talks as if he's this Tough Guy , got a rep of "not being like other politicians " Really, throw a couple of hard questions is way he goes into a rage then runs out of a press conference , even says some health advisors decisions are not friendly to the Trump campaign Throw in some bad news and Trump folds like an accordion, everybody that doesn't agree with him gets fired anybody in his circle that calls him on a mistake fired. THIS IS THE ACTIONS OF A TOUGH GUY???
 
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