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Unleash the Obama!

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  • He'll help with the minority vote

    Votes: 17 33.3%

  • Obama will help Biden by 1%

    Votes: 7 13.7%

  • Obama will help Biden by 5%

    Votes: 16 31.4%

  • Obama will help Biden by 10%

    Votes: 12 23.5%

  • Obama will help Biden by 0%

    Votes: 8 15.7%

  • Racist voters will move to Trump

    Votes: 6 11.8%
  • Total voters
    51
  • Poll closed .
WillyPete said:
I said 1%.

It's hard to imagine there are many people who could be swayed by Obama that are Trump voters today.
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True

But I will enjoy Obama tweaking Trump and his supporters.
 
Puigb said:
Trump was very vulnerable, even before all of this. Make no mistake, Trump could easily lose his re-election bid, and he knows it.
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and we will have to wait and see but Trump haters constantly saying he might lose has no real value at all. Especially given the uncertain times
 
I'm not sure Obama would want to stake his "legacy" on backing Biden. Allegedly, early on he told Biden "Joe, you don't need to do this".
 
Bullseye said:
I'm not sure Obama would want to stake his "legacy" on backing Biden. Allegedly, early on he told Biden "Joe, you don't need to do this".
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link of it's bull****
 
swing_voter said:



Obama oratory skills dwarf those of both Trump and Biden.

So from the 20 there is now 1. Obama can now campaign without showing favoritism to any one candidate.

How much effect will Obama have?
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The last poll item is unnecessary. Racists won't vote for anyone else but the great white dope.
 
TurtleDude said:
and we will have to wait and see but Trump haters constantly saying he might lose has no real value at all. Especially given the uncertain times
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He could win. I've always said that. Not because he's a good president, but because the Democrats are known to screw up what should be easy victories. I'd argue that the GOP voters essentially gave the Dems another 4 years in 2016 when they nominated Trump, and what do the Dems do? Nominate the only person just as unpopular as he was, someone who was rejected even in 2008.
 
In uncertain times people return to their senses. With an unleashed Obama and energized women, the largest voting block, happier days are ahead, even in the face of a pandemic.
 
Puigb said:
If that's what you want to tell yourself, go right ahead, lol.
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What? Is lol a nickname for you? Otherwise, I'm uncertain what you are trying to convey with your reply.
I will also consider that if it isn't a nick for you, it means a lot less to thinking folks than you hope it does. lol isn't a wild card for a reply. I won't be cowed into being dismissed with that juvenile offer. Want to try something of substance? I'll bet not!
Regards,
CP
 
Puigb said:
He could win. I've always said that. Not because he's a good president, but because the Democrats are known to screw up what should be easy victories. I'd argue that the GOP voters essentially gave the Dems another 4 years in 2016 when they nominated Trump, and what do the Dems do? Nominate the only person just as unpopular as he was, someone who was rejected even in 2008.
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He could win because

1) incumbents have an advantage-especially in times of turmoil

2) Biden is a low wattage dullard and probably suffering Dementia

3) Biden will say lots of stupid things that will turn off those in the middle while saying things he really believes that will scare people who don't want a socialist government

4) Biden's attack on a union gun owner, combined with his braying how he will pick Beta to be his main gun grabber are going to be played over and over by the NRA and other pro gun groups in states that have lots of blue collar-gun owning voters.
 
TurtleDude said:
and in the 2010 and 2014 elections, the Obama swarm didn't really turn out. When Steve Chabot (First congressional district, Ohio) lost in 2008, he told many of his supporters-including me-that he knew he'd win in 2010 because the Obama swarm wouldn't turn out- He was right-he crushed Steve Driehaus in 2010
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As I mentioned elsewhere the Dems lost almost a thousand seats at all levels of government during the Obama era; Governors, state legislators, in the Senate and House. There's a reason for that. Obama may entrance hard core Dems but elections aren't won by the party hardcore.
 
TurtleDude said:
He could win because

1) incumbents have an advantage-especially in times of turmoil
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True, though Trump has already lost his "bump" he received during this crisis.

TurtleDude said:
2) Biden is a low wattage dullard and probably suffering Dementia
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Your opinion, which comes across as projection more than anything.

TurtleDude said:
3) Biden will say lots of stupid things that will turn off those in the middle while saying things he really believes that will scare people who don't want a socialist government
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Biden saying "stupid things" is irrelevant in the era of Trump. Nobody cares about that anymore, and Trump and his supporters are to thank for that. As for "socialism", Trump and his thugs in the GOP will paint any Dem nominee as a socialist. Nobody but Republicans will buy it. If anything, Biden could argue so called "socialist" policies are what's being used to save the economy right now.

TurtleDude said:
4) Biden's attack on a union gun owner, combined with his braying how he will pick Beta to be his main gun grabber are going to be played over and over by the NRA and other pro gun groups in states that have lots of blue collar-gun owning voters.
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An overrated issue, and won't make much of a difference either way.
 
concernedpuma said:
What? Is lol a nickname for you? Otherwise, I'm uncertain what you are trying to convey with your reply.
I will also consider that if it isn't a nick for you, it means a lot less to thinking folks than you hope it does. lol isn't a wild card for a reply. I won't be cowed into being dismissed with that juvenile offer. Want to try something of substance? I'll bet not!
Regards,
CP
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Your post wasn't anything of substance. It was a bunch of excuse making for your parties historic loss.
 
Puigb said:
He could win. I've always said that. Not because he's a good president, but because the Democrats are known to screw up what should be easy victories. I'd argue that the GOP voters essentially gave the Dems another 4 years in 2016 when they nominated Trump, and what do the Dems do? Nominate the only person just as unpopular as he was, someone who was rejected even in 2008.
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Democrats aren't the only party that screws up. Remember McCain/Palin? I am a dyed in the wool Conservative, but stayed away from the polls when that was that was the Conservative offering. I will always think Republicans threw that election to keep from dealing with the Bush economic mess! As I mentioned; I am Conservative and Republican, but not blind!
Regards,
CP
 
concernedpuma said:
Democrats aren't the only party that screws up. Remember McCain/Palin? I am a dyed in the wool Conservative, but stayed away from the polls when that was that was the Conservative offering. I will always think Republicans threw that election to keep from dealing with the Bush economic mess! As I mentioned; I am Conservative and Republican, but not blind!
Regards,
CP
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Self identified "Republicans" and "conservatives" actually came out stronger for McCain in 2008 than Trump in 2016. Trump just happened to face a vastly weaker opponent, after 8 years of the other party being in power. Trump essentially got lucky.
 
Puigb said:
Your post wasn't anything of substance. It was a bunch of excuse making for your parties historic loss.
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Yes. Your lol reply was certainly fact filled!
C'mon. I made my point clearly in each post! So was yours LOL!!!
You like that? I didn't either.
Regards,
CP
 
Interesting how President Obama picked him twice as his VP and gave him some medal of honor. But won't endorse him.
 
Puigb said:
Self identified "Republicans" and "conservatives" actually came out stronger for McCain in 2008 than Trump in 2016. Trump just happened to face a vastly weaker opponent, after 8 years of the other party being in power. Trump essentially got lucky.
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Excellent narrative. Unfortunately built on opinion, but as they say about certain other openings, everybody has one and they all stink!
Regards,
CP
 
concernedpuma said:
Excellent narrative. Unfortunately built on opinion, but as they say about certain other openings, everybody has one and they all stink!
Regards,
CP
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Based in reality actually...Donald Trump would have had no chance in 2008 running as a Republican. Not even Reagan would have won in 2008. 2008 was a horrible time to be a Republican.
 
Puigb said:
True, though Trump has already lost his "bump" he received during this crisis.



Your opinion, which comes across as projection more than anything.



Biden saying "stupid things" is irrelevant in the era of Trump. Nobody cares about that anymore, and Trump and his supporters are to thank for that. As for "socialism", Trump and his thugs in the GOP will paint any Dem nominee as a socialist. Nobody but Republicans will buy it. If anything, Biden could argue so called "socialist" policies are what's being used to save the economy right now.



An overrated issue, and won't make much of a difference either way.
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clinton claimed that his gun ban cost the dems both houses in 1994. Gore admitted his change from an NRA A rated Senator to an F rated presidential contender cost him his HOME STATE and thus the election

Projection? LOL-Biden was at the bottom of his class at a third tier law school. He flunked the Delaware bar the first time he took it. The guy is not very bright. A couple more times of him asking people to vote him into the senate will do wonders
 
TurtleDude said:
clinton claimed that his gun ban cost the dems both houses in 1994. Gore admitted his change from an NRA A rated Senator to an F rated presidential contender cost him his HOME STATE and thus the election
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Clinton and Gore were entitled to their opinions. I still don't believe it will be much of an issue. Unlike yourself, most people aren't one issue voters.

TurtleDude said:
Projection? LOL-Biden was at the bottom of his class at a third tier law school. He flunked the Delaware bar the first time he took it. The guy is not very bright. A couple more times of him asking people to vote him into the senate will do wonders
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I don't think you really want to get into an argument of intelligence. Trump's only relevant in life because who his father was. Come to think of it, the last intelligent GOP president you guys put into office was Papa Bush. After that you guys have sunken so low, that your standard bearer today is some Reality T.V. star who has trouble putting together coherent sentences, and who didn't even know Kansas City was in Missouri. Biden doesn't need to be a self proclaimed "stable genius" to govern. He's been in politics for years, he knows about government, and him and a hopefully Democratic congress could work hard to reverse much the Trump damage has inflicted during his very long 4 years in power.
 
TurtleDude said:
clinton claimed that his gun ban cost the dems both houses in 1994. Gore admitted his change from an NRA A rated Senator to an F rated presidential contender cost him his HOME STATE and thus the election

Projection? LOL-Biden was at the bottom of his class at a third tier law school. He flunked the Delaware bar the first time he took it. The guy is not very bright. A couple more times of him asking people to vote him into the senate will do wonders
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" Donald J. Trump was the most stupid goddamned student I ever taught." - William T. Kelly - Professor at Wharton College. -
 
Puigb said:
Clinton and Gore were entitled to their opinions. I still don't believe it will be much of an issue. Unlike yourself, most people aren't one issue voters.



I don't think you really want to get into an argument of intelligence. Trump's only relevant in life because who his father was. Come to think of it, the last intelligent GOP president you guys put into office was Papa Bush. After that you guys have sunken so low, that your standard bearer today is some Reality T.V. star who has trouble putting together coherent sentences, and who didn't even know Kansas City was in Missouri. Biden doesn't need to be a self proclaimed "stable genius" to govern. He's been in politics for years, he knows about government, and him and a hopefully Democratic congress could work hard to reverse much the Trump damage has inflicted during his very long 4 years in power.
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I will take that challenge. Biden's a dolt. And his mediocre intellect is waning. What damage have you suffered from Trump?
 
Logician Man said:
" Donald J. Trump was the most stupid goddamned student I ever taught." - William T. Kelly - Professor at Wharton College. -
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you need to cite the context--yet another thread where your first post is directed to ME.
 
TurtleDude said:
I will take that challenge. Biden's a dolt. And his mediocre intellect is waning. What damage have you suffered from Trump?
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A dolt who's still vastly more capable than the Reality T.V. Star, even at an advanced age. And you've already been explained numerous times as to why Trump is a lousy president. Problem for you is your ideological blinders doesn't allow you to see beyond what you've been groomed by your political masters to believe.
 
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