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Unleash the Obama!

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  • He'll help with the minority vote

    Votes: 17 33.3%

  • Obama will help Biden by 1%

    Votes: 7 13.7%

  • Obama will help Biden by 5%

    Votes: 16 31.4%

  • Obama will help Biden by 10%

    Votes: 12 23.5%

  • Obama will help Biden by 0%

    Votes: 8 15.7%

  • Racist voters will move to Trump

    Votes: 6 11.8%
  • Total voters
    51
  • Poll closed .
Vadinho said:
When Obama starts campaigning for Joe, Trump will have a stroke and die in a spasm. There is no way he can stop Obama and his wife beating the **** out of him on the campaign trail. Its like Pee Wee Herman against Bruce Lee.
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Maybe. I'll jump out here and say if the Republican's had run President Trump against him, President Obama would have been a one term President.
How we Republican's ended with Sen. McCain as our nominee(including on his ticket an Alaskan, you read me right, Alaskan governor) to me, shows a thrown election. I still believe Republicans didn't want to win. The surprise came when President Obama managed the economy as well as he did. I know, he threw money at it, but still, he brought us back from the brink brought on by President Bush II.
Regards,
CP
 
concernedpuma said:
Correct you are, I will pay no attention to zealots of any persuasion. Those are the ones who will make you march to their tune and will be eschewed by true individuals. I won't find myself hating a sport, supermarket, parking space, astrological sign, political adherence, or musical group for the sake of those who are haters that may who do the same. It is really quite liberating to be an individual unbeholden any other. Try being a separated you, rather than a toady to a mass. It is quite peaceful.
Regards,
CP
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I guess you have not seen any of Trump's rallies then. There are nothing but "zealots" there as far as the eye can see. It's like a religious experience for both Trump and the cheering and chanting audience who eat up everything Trump tells them no matter if it is true or not. It seems to me that those Trump supporters have given up their originality and freedom of thought. Are you saying you are not like those "Trumpists"?
 
concernedpuma said:
Maybe. I'll jump out here and say if the Republican's had run President Trump against him, President Obama would have been a one term President.
How we Republican's ended with Sen. McCain as our nominee(including on his ticket an Alaskan, you read me right, Alaskan governor) to me, shows a thrown election. I still believe Republicans didn't want to win. The surprise came when President Obama managed the economy as well as he did. I know, he threw money at it, but still, he brought us back from the brink brought on by President Bush II.
Regards,
CP
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My lord, you are only describing the potential power of the ignorant masses that populate our great nation like rats on the Mayflower. If Trump had run against Obama and won, the end of the American dream would have already passed us. America cannot be ruled by idiots or we die as a nation. I know many of us are so stupid they would vote for Pat Paulsen before FDR but until the era of right wing media and Fox News, the ratio of total morons to reasonably rational Americans was under control. Now all bets are off. We may be heading towards the greatest collapse of reason the world has known since the Dark Ages.
 
iguanaman said:
I guess you have not seen any of Trump's rallies then. There are nothing but "zealots" there as far as the eye can see. It's like a religious experience for both Trump and the cheering and chanting audience who eat up everything Trump tells them no matter if it is true or not. It seems to me that those Trump supporters have given up their originality and freedom of thought. Are you saying you are not like those "Trumpists"?
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In the instances you present, are supporters of the President who don't much care what you think. If you are attempting some corollary with bigotry, it is a cheap, dogeared rehash of silliness. The folks you see in his mass turnouts aren't bigots, they are supporters of President Trump's work and vision. It would take a person with a truly jaundiced view of their opposition to make such a spurious claim!
Regards,
CP
 
Vadinho said:
My lord, you are only describing the potential power of the ignorant masses that populate our great nation like rats on the Mayflower. If Trump had run against Obama and won, the end of the American dream would have already passed us. America cannot be ruled by idiots or we die as a nation. I know many of us are so stupid they would vote for Pat Paulsen before FDR but until the era of right wing media and Fox News, the ratio of total morons to reasonably rational Americans was under control. Now all bets are off. We may be heading towards the greatest collapse of reason the world has known since the Dark Ages.
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Hmmmm.Your interpretation of the of American dream would be telling here: What is it you would force others do to meet your personal definition of the American dream?
Regards,
CP
 
concernedpuma said:
In the instances you present, are supporters of the President who don't much care what you think. If you are attempting some corollary with bigotry, it is a cheap, dogeared rehash of silliness. The folks you see in his mass turnouts aren't bigots, they are supporters of President Trump's work and vision. It would take a person with a truly jaundiced view of their opposition to make such a spurious claim!
Regards,
CP
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I did not call the Trump rallyists bigots, I said they were zealots which you claimed you avoided. You are in denial. You are part of a cult like admiration society that believe Trump is a messiah no matter how many time he fails and lies about it.
 
iguanaman said:
I guess you have not seen any of Trump's rallies then. There are nothing but "zealots" there as far as the eye can see. It's like a religious experience for both Trump and the cheering and chanting audience who eat up everything Trump tells them no matter if it is true or not. It seems to me that those Trump supporters have given up their originality and freedom of thought. Are you saying you are not like those "Trumpists"?
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Maybe, if you will admit the shallow audience appeal of VP Biden is also constructed and his rally's attended by zealots of his flavor. If we are lowering the bar to include anyone who supports a different candidate as a zealot, we have hit a rock bottom.
Regards,
CP
 
swing_voter said:



Obama oratory skills dwarf those of both Trump and Biden.

So from the 20 there is now 1. Obama can now campaign without showing favoritism to any one candidate.

How much effect will Obama have?
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He and Cuomo are the two biggest politicians at this time and I would say Cuomo is bigger because he is actually dealing with the crisis.
 
concernedpuma said:
Maybe, if you will admit the shallow audience appeal of VP Biden is also constructed and his rally's attended by zealots of his flavor. If we are lowering the bar to include anyone who supports a different candidate as a zealot, we have hit a rock bottom.
Regards,
CP
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You obviously do not know what a demagogue is. Biden is not in any way a demagogue like Trump. Biden has many years of public service as a Senator and Vice President that attracts his followers.

demagogue noun
dem·​a·​gogue | \ ˈde-mə-ˌgäg \
variants: or less commonly demagog
Definition of demagogue (Entry 1 of 2)
1: a leader who makes use of popular prejudices and false claims and promises in order to gain power
 
iguanaman said:
You obviously do not know what a demagogue is. Biden is not in any way a demagogue like Trump. Biden has many years of public service as a Senator and Vice President that attracts his followers.

demagogue noun
dem·​a·​gogue | \ ˈde-mə-ˌgäg \
variants: or less commonly demagog
Definition of demagogue (Entry 1 of 2)
1: a leader who makes use of popular prejudices and false claims and promises in order to gain power
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I don't understand how you can with good conscience write such things. Have you investigated the hollow and unfulfilled promises made by EVERY Democratic candidate? Talk about black face comedy and demagoguery! The unemployment rate(pre-Covid) among our black citizenry was lower than ever before. Further, President Trump didn't promise that, he just delivered it.
Quite honestly, I don't see you as one who has the credentials to question another's knowledge. I haven't accused you of being ignorant of anything, and I don't appreciate condescending replies to me and so far as you have shown to date, anyone else. You aren't that informed.
Regards,
CP.
 
concernedpuma said:
I don't understand how you can with good conscience write such things. Have you investigated the hollow and unfulfilled promises made by EVERY Democratic candidate? Talk about black face comedy and demagoguery! The unemployment rate(pre-Covid) among our black citizenry was lower than ever before. Further, President Trump didn't promise that, he just delivered it.
Quite honestly, I don't see you as one who has the credentials to question another's knowledge. I haven't accused you of being ignorant of anything, and I don't appreciate condescending replies to me and so far as you have shown to date, anyone else. You aren't that informed.
Regards,
CP.
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80% of blacks think Trump is a racist, I think we can assume they know what a racist is. Don't you? The wealthy have benefited far more than the blacks from Trumps policies.

How Trump’s tax cuts favor whites over minorities – Center for Public Integrity

While Trump boasts of economic growth, inequality deepens
 
iguanaman said:
80% of blacks think Trump is a racist, I think we can assume they know what a racist is. Don't you? The wealthy have benefited far more than the blacks from Trumps policies.

How Trump’s tax cuts favor whites over minorities – Center for Public Integrity

While Trump boasts of economic growth, inequality deepens
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Makes you wonder why Afro-Americans person's would think that, doesn't it? I'm afraid you are faced with recognizing sponsored polling or believing a segment of our population just doesn't know when they are well off. You surely aren't making the corollary that higher unemployment among any segment of our population, would then make them think one who benefits them would be against them. It would seem a fair, intelligent being would appreciate any benefit from a sitting president. I vote results, and give my friends of color the same reasoning power of you and I. Perhaps you don't.
Regards,
CP
 
concernedpuma said:
Makes you wonder why Afro-Americans person's would think that, doesn't it? I'm afraid you are faced with recognizing sponsored polling or believing a segment of our population just doesn't know when they are well off. You surely aren't making the corollary that higher unemployment among any segment of our population, would then make them think one who benefits them would be against them. It would seem a fair, intelligent being would appreciate any benefit from a sitting president. I vote results, and give my friends of color the same reasoning power of you and I. Perhaps you don't.
Regards,
CP
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I'm pretty sure Blacks know a racist when they see or hear one and so do I. I have to assume you either don't know what a racist is or are defending Trump even though you know he is a racist. Most likely the latter considering you think blacks are not intelligent enough to be "appreciative". Blacks know Trump had nothing to do with any perceived benefits you think they may have had during his term.

Half of the US, 80% of African-Americans say Trump is racist: POLL - Business Insider
 
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iguanaman said:
I'm pretty sure Blacks know a racist when they see or hear one and so do I. I have to assume you either don't know what a racist is or are defending Trump even though you know he is a racist. Most likely the latter considering you think blacks are not intelligent enough to be "appreciative". Blacks know Trump had nothing to do with any perceived benefits you think they may have had during his term.

Half of the US, 80% of African-Americans say Trump is racist: POLL - Business Insider
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I certainly know a racist when I see, hear, or read them. The truth is you are one of them. Who else would separate races by numbers? If you think Afro-Americans are a bloc that can be lead, you are at best the negative of a photo taken of the KKK.
There are none that can match the assumed thinking of a race who aren't just plain racists!
Have you never known an independent thinking Afro-American? Perhaps you ought stop accusing and really accept that American's are just that, and stop trying to make traction by acting as a redeemed liberal WASP, and accept our black brothers and sisters are as independent of culling out as you are.
Regards,
CP
 
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