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    Re: One word to describe US

    Quote Originally Posted by smallvoice View Post
    So you are now a classical liberal. The less we have of controls, the better off we are. I NEVER said "no controls" which is the position you lefties want the righties to take.
    I am not interested in labels- only learning from the consequences of various courses of actions.

    Eliminating safety nets for protection of basic human rights, like food, shelter, access to clean water, a basic education, and access to healthcare, with the reassurance that the free markets and this magical "invisible hand" will take care of it, is essentially "no controls". That has not been the experience of the last 2 centuries since the industrialization, and has led to repeatedly unacceptable situations.

    Folks who have such magical faith in the magic of pure free markets are about as blind to the actual experiences and lessons of history as those who have a magical faith in pure communism. They too tell us the only reason communism has never worked is because it has never been implemented in its pure form. Such ideological purists want to sacrifice the repeated lessons of history to the altar of ideological purity. The world is a much more messy place. That's why the actual economic systems developed nations use these days is also similarly mixed and messy and never "pure".

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    Re: One word to describe US

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    What's your one word to describe the US?

    * * Failing * *

    - Significant loss of American influence in virtually every region on the planet, as Chinese and Russian influence grows. (Obama's foolishness and Trump's idiocy.)

    - Enthusiastic debtor nation, with ever increasing expenditures. (Bush's mismanagement of the War on Terror, Obama's increases, Trump's lack of caring.)

    - Billion-dollar corporations freed from paying taxes. (Trump's 2017 Tax-Cut and Jobs Act.)

    - Anti-science beliefs continue to threaten the American edge in science. (GOP partisan stupidity...it's all a hoax!!!!)

    - Democracy under assault by voter ID restrictions, racial gerrymandering, select poll closures, political court packing as high even as the Supreme Court, actual multiple voter fraud cases, and illegal legislation to strip gubernatorial powers from victorious opponents. Not to mention a seated President's willingness to commit treason for personal gain. (GOP exponential modus operandi.)

    - Education belittled in such a way that we don't really invest in our own nation's future. (Average voter and tax-payer)


    It's a smörgåsbord of blame. But it all results in the American people letting the Founding Father's down and disappointing all those countries out there who need us to succeed.
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    Re: One word to describe US

    Quote Originally Posted by jotathought View Post
    Blessed
    ...but squandered.

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    Re: One word to describe US

    Mine was stolen from me in the OP. See how you are?
    Our Bunker IG, with his big beautiful WH wall, protected by his DOJ Black-OPS Army, is not a threat to The Constitution.
    The Constitution will kick his ass.

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    Re: One word to describe US

    Cornucopia

    One of the best-known involves the birth and nurturance of the infant Zeus, who had to be hidden from his devouring father Kronus. In a cave on Mount Ida on the island of Crete, baby Zeus was cared for and protected by a number of divine attendants, including the goat Amaltheia ("Nourishing Goddess"), who fed him with her milk. The suckling future king of the gods had unusual abilities and strength, and in playing with his nursemaid accidentally broke off one of her horns, which then had the divine power to provide unending nourishment, as the foster mother had to the god.[1]

    AKA horn of plenty

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    Re: One word to describe US

    Spiraling.

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    Re: One word to describe US

    Quote Originally Posted by smallvoice View Post
    "Social Safety nets" are neither a brake pedal , nor a steering wheel. Economics 101 will give the answer. Ever hear of Adam Smith? The Invisible Hand?

    My guess is you only see liberal government as the only competent government. From my view, nothing could be farther than the truth. A liberal government is more like a police parking boot.
    If one is a true political liberal, they would want as little government involvement at all. Adam Smith has a pretty good handle on capitalism and the free market. The way our country was in it's infancy, the church was the center of the community, and that was the "safety net". What people mistakenly call "corporate greed", is usually some type of scam or gaming of the system. There are laws that should keep it in check, but doesn't always do a satisfactory job. I consider myself a classic liberal.

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    Re: One word to describe US

    Quote Originally Posted by mrdeltoid View Post
    If one is a true political liberal, they would want as little government involvement at all. Adam Smith has a pretty good handle on capitalism and the free market. The way our country was in it's infancy, the church was the center of the community, and that was the "safety net". What people mistakenly call "corporate greed", is usually some type of scam or gaming of the system. There are laws that should keep it in check, but doesn't always do a satisfactory job. I consider myself a classic liberal.
    These folks are not true liberals, they just like what they have bastardized the word to mean. They abandoned the church safety net and want gubmint to pick up the slack. My church still provides it in a rational manner. If one were to follow modern liberal/progressive goals it would give us the nanny state we are heading for. Workers would just let the government do it all and give them what it wants them to have.
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    Re: One word to describe US

    ill-served

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    Re: One word to describe US

    Quote Originally Posted by smallvoice View Post
    What you think is "greed" is capitalism at its best. It works when no other economic system does. If you are lazy, it won't work for you. That would be my diagnosis of your problem with the US.
    I don't have a problem, per se, with the US. It's the greedy multinational corporations that use their power, money, and influence to leverage the system unfairly against the average worker. We don't need multi-trillion dollar companies too big to fail using lobbyists, special interests, and campaign donations to rig the system.
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