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    Re: 12 million+ illegal immigrants. What happens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Accusing others of breaking the law is against the Forum Rules...
    Nope it's a scientific fact that I can back up. Not a damn soul here hasn't sped or jaywalked or failed to use their blinker...all are crimes on the same level of illegal presence

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    Re: 12 million+ illegal immigrants. What happens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    Incorrect on many levels.

    Not all "but DUI traffic violations" are misdemeanors.

    Most are simple infractions.

    A misdemeanor IS a crime.

    Are you stating crossing illegally is a crime?
    Nope moving violations are crimes, non moving violations are infractions. Deputies are my co workers so I know what I'm telling you

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    Re: 12 million+ illegal immigrants. What happens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    Bolded. We agree 100%. Every business knowingly hiring illegal labor should be hammered.

    The rest of the post is simply the TRUMP CARD played again.
    Trump has knowingly hired illegal immigrants at Mar a Lago for years

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    Re: 12 million+ illegal immigrants. What happens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Individual View Post
    My logic is simple, don't break laws. If you don't like a law, communicate with your representative in local, State or Federal government to try and get the law changed. If, and/or until the law has been changed, avoid breaking it, else accept the consequences when caught. If there are 12 million+ living illegally in the U.S. it would appear our immigration laws have not been working/applied for some time. Perhaps it about time something is being done about that, and a good first step would be to make the consequences more undesirable, along with more diligent apprehension/application. Have you thought about adopting an immigrant/immigrant family, taking full financial responsibility for their needs/wants?
    Lets make sure all laws are fully enforced then to the letter of the law. Let there be no lawbreakers left anywhere. Hire the 9 million people that just lost their jobs to enforce every single law on the books. We can start the enforcement in rural America and Red State America. No one can claim ignorance of the law. Arrest everyone. After all, we care so much about the law don't we?
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    Re: 12 million+ illegal immigrants. What happens?

    Quote Originally Posted by ClaraD View Post
    Trump has knowingly hired illegal immigrants at Mar a Lago for years
    Ah, so Trump was there when they were hired and checked their IDs?
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    Re: 12 million+ illegal immigrants. What happens?

    Quote Originally Posted by ClaraD View Post
    Nope moving violations are crimes, non moving violations are infractions. Deputies are my co workers so I know what I'm telling you
    Incorrect.

    Moving violations are normally not crimes.

    I know the difference because I was convicted on one of those traffic misdemeanors.
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    Re: 12 million+ illegal immigrants. What happens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    Ah, so Trump was there when they were hired and checked their IDs?
    Trump owns Mar A Lago, I expect him to know who is and isn't legally employed, especially those working where he claims residency.

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    Re: 12 million+ illegal immigrants. What happens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    Incorrect.

    Moving violations are normally not crimes.

    I know the difference because I was convicted on one of those traffic misdemeanors.
    it is a misdemeanor, thus a crime...all misdemeanors are crimes...not serious, but they are crimes. Illegal presence is a civil violation...actually entering without inspection is a misdemeanor...the trick here, is that CBP has to catch them in the act to actually charge them with illegal entry. Most aren't charged...they are given a civil infraction and deported. Why? Because making it a crime, means they have to be provided an attorney under our laws.

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    Re: 12 million+ illegal immigrants. What happens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Individual View Post
    My logic is simple, don't break laws. If you don't like a law, communicate with your representative in local, State or Federal government to try and get the law changed. If, and/or until the law has been changed, avoid breaking it, else accept the consequences when caught. If there are 12 million+ living illegally in the U.S. it would appear our immigration laws have not been working/applied for some time. Perhaps it about time something is being done about that, and a good first step would be to make the consequences more undesirable, along with more diligent apprehension/application. Have you thought about adopting an immigrant/immigrant family, taking full financial responsibility for their needs/wants?
    More nonsense comparing a single person to a country. No wonder you fail so hard at this. Tell ya what, lets break up your family and throw them around the system where nobody keeps track of each member then you can come back to me and still see if you have this fake ass law and order attitude.


    See also the reason twump cultists need to play little “hypocrisy” games is they know they are in deep **** so the only way they can pull off any victory is by trying to make their opponents look just as bad as they are. Its the never play defense tactic

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    Re: 12 million+ illegal immigrants. What happens?

    Quote Originally Posted by ClaraD View Post
    it is a misdemeanor, thus a crime...all misdemeanors are crimes...not serious, but they are crimes. Illegal presence is a civil violation...actually entering without inspection is a misdemeanor...the trick here, is that CBP has to catch them in the act to actually charge them with illegal entry. Most aren't charged...they are given a civil infraction and deported. Why? Because making it a crime, means they have to be provided an attorney under our laws.
    This is why i cant take the so called law and order crowd seriously.


    See also the reason twump cultists need to play little “hypocrisy” games is they know they are in deep **** so the only way they can pull off any victory is by trying to make their opponents look just as bad as they are. Its the never play defense tactic

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