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Why do educated voters LIKE Donald Trump?

Why do you like Donald Trump?

  • I think he is a good person

    Votes: 3 4.2%

  • I like his policies

    Votes: 45 63.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 23 32.4%
  • Total voters
    71
Blue Donkey said:
Your red glasses are blinders. I call it the way it is based on what I know with clear lenses. I only use facts about what happened.

Republicans never have any proof that the Democcrats are wrong. They say Democrats are wrong but have no abillty to back up their claims.
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Know anything about logic? Do you know of some new way to disprove a negative? If so, you should be published and be looking for Mathematical grants, not wasting your time here.
Regards,
CP
 
concernedpuma said:
I am not lying. Representative Schiff was sent to Washington to be a California Representative, true enough. The question becomes how has he then helped his constituents, as representing would imply? Know of anything else he's done? Me neither.
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So you think just because you don't know what else someone has done, he has done nothing? Screwed logic.

The Democrats in charge of the House excluded Republicans from their closed door meetings. That isn't a representative body of the people.
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You also are wrong about Democrats excluding Republicans. In fact Republicans were allowed to attend closed door meetings; there were just limits on their ability to participate. Those rules were made up in 1998 by . . . Republicans!

Solely Schiff, no. The Democratic cabal? Yes!
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How many Republican Representatives do you think were only worried about keeping their jobs on November 3?
 
Nickyjo said:
Are you serious? Hate kills. Check out the holocaust museum or the lynching museum. Donald talked about executing the Central Park Five and that he wanted to hate them. He moved on to lying about illegals, legals immigrants, blacks, overseas refugees, asylum seekers, the media, raped women ("she's not my type"), and most recently some governors, spreading false information and resentment. I can't knock it, he thinks it works for him, but it turns his signature motto into "Made America Hate Again" to us weakling liberals.
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One quick point that I'm sure will make little difference: Trump's Central Park Five ad calls for a reinstatement of the death penalty to inhibit crime in general. But Trump does not call for the execution of the Five because the crime they were charged with was not, then or previous, a crime for which the death penalty could be imposed. This conflation has been made many times and will probably be made many more times by people who never check facts while continually excoriating Trump for being a liar (which he is, but no more than any other politician).
 
Razoo said:
Trump and the conservatives cost taxpayers a ton of money through deregulation. Deregulating the financial industry has cost taxpayers trillions of dollars not only through credit card interests but think about the many bailouts.

Deregulating the medical insurance industry has cost consumers tons of money. Deregulation is not a fiscal responsible tool nor is it fair to consumers. We all pay more. Then there is that giant gambling casino aka Wall Street ...... why should taxpayers bailout Wall Street for any reason, or the financial industry, or the auto industry, or the military industrial complex, or the hotel industry or the utility industry or air travel industry then there is the student loan industry gone wild..... which should be shut down and rewritten.

Deregulation is reckless, expensive and does not encourage discipline.

There is one choice missing in your BS poll .......the choice of I DON"T!

Deregulation opens the door wide for monopolies which eliminates choice and promotes GOUGING BIG time. It has ruined the news industry and cost people their jobs. Nothing good about deregulation.

Any do conservatives enjoy paying more as in inflated prices for just about everything? Really how smart is it to promote inflation through reckless spending?
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Give us please, the trail of lost money from deregulating;
The financial, medical or any other institution.
Deregulation is intended to break monopolies. Do you then favor monopoly's?
Regards,
CP
 
concernedpuma said:
Know anything about logic? Do you know of some new way to disprove a negative? If so, you should be published and be looking for Mathematical grants, not wasting your time here.
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Says a person who hates using logic and even admitted it.
 
To respond to the original post, I don't precisely "like" Trump or his policies.

However, there are some policies on the Left that I deem extremely problematic, and thus Trump's policies may at times serve as counter-agents.
 
Blue Donkey said:
So you think just because you don't know what else someone has done, he has done nothing? Screwed logic.



You also are wrong about Democrats excluding Republicans. In fact Republicans were allowed to attend closed door meetings; there were just limits on their ability to participate. Those rules were made up in 1998 by . . . Republicans!



How many Republican Representatives do you think were only worried about keeping their jobs on November 3?
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So you think just because you don't know what else someone has done, he has done nothing? Screwed logic.
Not so. I asked in another reply if you understood logic. No need to answer that. You have here. You clearly don't. With the singular fact that nothing had been proved, could lead only to the sound conclusion he did nothing. Not the backwards approach you present here.
Get just that together and come back, please.
Regards,
CP
 
Ouroboros said:
To respond to the original post, I don't precisely "like" Trump or his policies.

However, there are some policies on the Left that I deem extremely problematic, and thus Trump's policies may at times serve as counter-agents.
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Problematic enough for you to vote for Trump?
 
Blue Donkey said:
This is a literal and isolated question. If all you care about is opposing the Democratic Party and supporting whoever the Republican nominee would have been, this thread is not for you. That is not liking Trump himself, just liking what he is not. I want to know why people who like Trump himself, based only on what he says and does, not any lies the conservative media tells.
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He's just more genuine. Like him or not, what you see is what you get, whereas your typical politician comes off as fake.
 
Moonglow said:
Depends on what the OP means about educated...Hell, they can educate a gorilla to speak with sign language.
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"Educated" can mean a lot of different things. OP didn't specify so that all possible ways of being "educated" would count.
 
Blue Donkey said:
Says a person who hates using logic and even admitted it.
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That, friend is either a lie, or a misunderstanding on your part. When, have I ever stated I hate logic? In fact I enjoy the mathematical discipline. It goes beyond yours or my personal preference for office, but rather requires a formula.
I have no problem with others stating preference, but I balk at seeing preference listed as logic to be used to as some foisted truth.
Regards,
CP
 
Wayne Jr said:
He's just more genuine. Like him or not, what you see is what you get, whereas your typical politician comes off as fake.
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Fake or worse, a professional politician? President Trump is certainly not a polished politician, rather a too brief respite from those that are.
regards,
CP
 
Wayne Jr said:
He's just more genuine. Like him or not, what you see is what you get, whereas your typical politician comes off as fake.
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Where have you been while Donald Trump has been telling and tweeting zillions of lies? People who are educated about Trump know all about them.
 
Blue Donkey said:
Liberals don't hate any more than conservatives do. Look in the mirror.
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I think you mean Democrats vs Republicans.

First, Democrats definitely do not qualify as liberals. Not even close. As to hate, check how it was for Reagan, and Bush 43 and now Trump. It is super bad. Democrats flat out despise Trump. And are willing to ruin Government over him. Look how they wasted time on Russia for instance. And favored Ukraine. Trump has a good case he too favored Ukraine just by the weapons he supplied to them. But my god, It is doubtful Clinton would have been impeached had he not asked for the special counsel. Sure it got blamed on Republicans but check your history. It was good old Bill himself that directed Janet Reno to set up the special council to investigate Whitewater.

Obama peaked out as president with his Nobel Prize. Past that much of what he did damaged this nation.
 
concernedpuma said:
Fake or worse, a professional politician? President Trump is certainly not a polished politician, rather a too brief respite from those that are.
regards,
CP
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Trump does not fit the typical American's notion of what a polished pro is. And he does not fit the mold. But he does not lie all the time as Democrats blame him. They are parrots of the media. And the media is about as trustworthy as was Bill Clinton.
 
concernedpuma said:
That, friend is either a lie, or a misunderstanding on your part. When have I ever stated I hate logic? In fact I enjoy the mathematical discipline. It goes beyond your or my personal preference for office, but rather requires a formula.

I have no problem with others stating preference, but I balk at seeing preference listed as logic to be used to as some foisted truth.
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You said you want to keep your red glasses on. That is choosing to look at bias in your favor instead of the actual facts like I do.

I use dictionary definitions of all the words and double-word terms I know unless there is an obvious reason not to. To me that is logical. It is what it is. You can't say, "I want this word to mean something else," and change the meaning of it just like you can't say 2 plus to does not equal 4.
 
Blue Donkey said:
Where have you been while Donald Trump has been telling and tweeting zillions of lies? People who are educated about Trump know all about them.
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I know about them, I just also know how the system works. The POTUS is meant to hold public attention so that you ignore the people who actually run the country, the bureaucrats, many of whom have been in office for 30+ years.

Whatever Trump lies about and tweets is largely irrelevant because the bureaucrats have all the power. The people like Trump because he's not a bureaucrat, and the bureaucrats like Trump because he keeps everyone focused on him instead of the bureaucrats. That's why the Dems are throwing this election and Trump is getting a second term regardless of what the content of his distractions are.

It's exactly like setting kids down in front of the TV so you can get your work done around the house. We The People are the kids and the bureaucrats are the adults who need to do things. The bureaucrats/adults don't care what the Trump Show on TV says so long as it keeps the kids distracted and out of the way.
 
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Wayne Jr said:
I know about them, I just also know how the system works. The POTUS is meant to hold public attention so that you ignore the people who actually run the country, the bureaucrats, many of whom have been in office for 30+ years.

Whatever Trump lies about and tweets is largely irrelevant because the bureaucrats have all the power.

The people like Trump because he's not a bureaucrat, and the bureaucrats like Trump because he keeps everyone focused on him instead of the bureaucrats. That's why the Dems are throwing this election and Trump is getting a second term regardless of what the content of his distractions are.
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So you DON'T know how the system works.
 
Blue Donkey said:
So you DON'T know how the system works.
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Case in point: Obama's promise to close Guantanamo Bay. That was a cornerstone of his campaign and as soon as he got into office, he was briefed on how things actually worked and made an immediate reversal on his promise. Guantanamo Bay prison camp is still operating. So I know how the system works.
 
Wayne Jr said:
Case in point: Obama's promise to close Guantanamo Bay. That was a cornerstone of his campaign and as soon as he got into office, he was briefed on how things actually worked and made an immediate reversal on his promise. Guantanamo Bay prison camp is still operating. So I know how the system works.
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The system is in the Constitutution. What actually happens is not the system itself. Donald Trump is the subject here and he fails to use the systme like he is legally bound to.
 
Blue Donkey said:
The system is in the Constitution. What actually happens is not the system itself. Donald Trump is the subject here and he fails to use the system like he is legally bound to.
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Everything I've said is in line with your statement here.

Except that Trump is not the subject of this thread. 'Why people like Trump' is the subject of this thread. The people who like Trump, not Trump himself. This is a discussion about voters, not Trump.
 
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Blue Donkey said:
So you DON'T know how the system works.
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I don't agree with all of what he says, but having been a federal employee for almost a quarter of a century, much of what he says is true
 
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