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Why do educated voters LIKE Donald Trump?

Why do you like Donald Trump?

  • I think he is a good person

    Votes: 3 4.2%

  • I like his policies

    Votes: 45 63.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 23 32.4%
  • Total voters
    71
JMR said:
Dear Concerned,
Take a look at any legitimate news source and determine how many lies are told on a daily basis by your leader. His veracity is questioned even at the state news channel of Fox.

You are to be commended however, for your unfailing devotion.

Have a good night!
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I appreciate the cordial tone in your reply, thank you.
You certainly post with apparent sincerity. So, please with that same sincerity, tell me the news source without agenda. You call Fox state news, but fail to see the corporate policy that drives CNN, MSNBC, Fox, and the NY Times. I believe they are all preying on the desire for vindication from those who tend to view them. Fox is playing to the administration supporters, CNN, MSNBC are after a different audience. In the meantime, both you and I are being played for advertising buck.
By the way, I am not devoted, only loyal to the country's leadership, regardless of party.
Regards,
CP
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
I like the poem. I think it is wonderful. I see no reason it should be removed. My ancestors saw the Statue of Liberty when they entered this country. It was them that this poem was written about. I don't recall the line on that poem that says give us your lawless who have no respect for our laws.
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So? Prosecute the "lawless who have no respect for our laws" who hire illegals, give support to unions, raise the minimum wage, send your kids to pick fruit when they are not in school, as used to be the case. In our country the absurdity of the political anti-illegals is they get to use them as scapegoats but never comment on how our produce, motel rooms, construction costs are lower. In central Mexico I met Mexicans who assumed Americans did no work. As comedian Paul Rodriguez put it to actor Bo Derrick when she complained about illegals, "Strap on a leaf-blower, Bo."

Btw, check out "A Day Without a Mexican." Not really a good film, but makes its point.
 
Lord of Planar said:
We were in theory neutral for WWII, but in fact, Roosevelt and congress was helping finance China, Russia, and the UK. He then failed to act properly upon intelligence the days prior to Pearl Harbor. Like normal, democrats think they need to police the world, so we also had Korea and Vietnam...

As for the troop pullout in Iraq, that was already set in stone with the SOFA agreement by the Bush administration.
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LP, I recently read an interesting piece and have seen it stated in more than one book. Our key reason for joining in WWI, was that we had loaned huge sums of money to the Allied causes and stood to lose it, if they lost the war. WW2 was a war of hegemony between us and Japan. Sounds cold, but plausible.
Regards,
CP
 
concernedpuma said:
Rumor has it that it went to TurtleDude, no? Then I don't know where it went:2razz:
Regards,
CP
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Damn, someone must have stolen it out of my gold plated mailbox!
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
I like the poem. I think it is wonderful. I see no reason it should be removed. My ancestors saw the Statue of Liberty when they entered this country. It was them that this poem was written about. I don't recall the line on that poem that says give us your lawless who have no respect for our laws.
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Emma Lazarus composed her poem in 1883 but, it was not an invitation to come, it was to help raise funds for a pedestal for the Statue of Liberty.
 
Huey Freeman said:
If you read my post, I said nothing about immigration. Absolutely nothing. It's interesting you conflated white supremacy with being against (or for) immigration.
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You wrote The short answer is white supremacy. White supremacists see one of their own in Trump. The longer answer is that the point of white supremacy is to ensure that that which all others achieve with maximal effort, white people (particularly white men) achieve with minimal qualification.
I believe you know that much of the white supremacy message today has to do with immigration, or am I wrong? Are you willing to concede our immigration policy isn't racist? By the way, by your calling out a race for some perceived wrong is a bit racist, isn't it? Or is that racism okay?
Regards,
CP
 
marke said:
The reason we are currently more than 22 trillion in debt is because politicians have foolishly wasted trillions of dollars a million at a time for decades.
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On what?
 
concernedpuma said:
Nickyjo I am not a math whiz, but how do you reduce the debt 7 of 8 years and at the same time manage to have it doubled when you leave? I am not a President Obama basher, in fact I believe he did all he could with the mess left by George W. That was good, in baseball terms, he got on base. Now we have the clean up batter in the box to win the game.
I am a Republican(bet you knew that:2razz:) and I believe debt matters.
Regards,
CP
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I think you misunderstood me. Deficits add to the debt. Under Obama, deficits (not debt) declined every year but one. Doesn’t mean the debt didn’t still increase, as it did under recent tax cuts, and no likely will even more as we respond to the pandemic. Obviously the way to slow the increase in the debt is to spend less, tax more, or some combination, but neither of those are in the cards now.
 
Nickyjo said:
I think you misunderstood me. Deficits add to the debt. Under Obama, deficits (not debt) declined every year but one. Doesn’t mean the debt didn’t still increase, as it did under recent tax cuts, and no likely will even more as we respond to the pandemic. Obviously the way to slow the increase in the debt is to spend less, tax more, or some combination, but neither of those are in the cards now.
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Sorry Nickyjo. You are right. I did misread it. Your point is correct.
Regards,
CP
 
ecofarm said:
Failing to respond to a pandemic and, instead, calling it a political hoax, cost more jobs than immigrants could ever staff.
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Lord of Planar said:
This thread is not about the pandemic. There are already several threads dealing with it, and it even has its own forum.

Please don't derail this thread.
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The post was about one of the4 many reasons all educated voters should hate Donald Trump specifically, no matter where they are on the political spectrum.
 
Blue Donkey said:
The post was about one of the4 many reasons all educated voters should hate Donald Trump specifically, no matter where they are on the political spectrum.
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...and yet, I am an educated voter and don't hate President Trump. How do you explain that? Go ahead. This oughta be good;)
Regards,
CP
 
uptower said:
What I was going to say and I truly believe there are informed/educated Trump supporters out there. These are the ones in it for the stock market, for wealth protection, for anti-socialist or neo-conservative ideological reasons and to protect their jobs, whether they made the right call or not. They are not racists or xenophobes; they are not voting against their own self-interest like the trailer park set have been convinced to do. These are rational swing voters or die-hard Republicans who saw no other choice - they'd have chosen any Republican though, it's just that Trump got the nod.
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So those people do not like Donald Trump. My question is very specific: Why do educated voters like Trump - not just support whoever the elephant is. Again, liking Trump is just that: liking Trump himself, without taking any feelings about Democrats into account or focusing mostly on the word Republican. If people are ratoinal, educated, and informed voters, how can they like Trump without letting partisan ideology cloud their vision?
 
concernedpuma said:
...and yet, I am an educated voter and don't hate President Trump. How do you explain that? Go ahead. This ought to be good.
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By educated, do you mean number of years in school or knowing a lot about what Trump said, did, and refused to do during the last four years? The latter is all I am looking for.
 
presluc said:
This is not to criticize any political part but both political parties..

This economic system where give more to the rich started in 2000.

Obama could have changed that , instead he extended the tax cuts for the rich , Trump not only extended the tax cuts but gave the rich a raise on tax cuts.
The current economic system is just a retread of the old "trickle down theory" Reagan came out with didn't work then ain't working now.

The wealth of the rich has gone up 800% the wealth of the working class 23% the wealth of the poor working class and the fixed income 2 %:peace
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Agree with you that both parties have supported the rich.

It started way before 2000.
 
Blue Donkey said:
So those people do not like Donald Trump. My question is very specific: Why do educated voters like Trump - not just support whoever the elephant is. Again, liking Trump is just that: liking Trump himself, without taking any feelings about Democrats into account or focusing mostly on the word Republican. If people are ratoinal, educated, and informed voters, how can they like Trump without letting partisan ideology cloud their vision?
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Your point is made, but begs the question; how can one dislike someone they have never met? So, can it be anything other than political or political bent?
Regards,
CP
 
concernedpuma said:
Your point is made, but begs the question; how can one dislike someone they have never met? So, can it be anything other than political or political bent?
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Millions of people say they hate Hillary Clinton - not because of her political views. but the Benghazi tragedy and email scandal. They hate her for being a liar. They say she is a criminal. They did NOT talk hate her for being a Democrat.
 
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Blue Donkey said:
By educated, do you mean number of years in school or knowing a lot about what Trump said, did, and refused to do during the last four years? The latter is all I am looking for.
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I believe the gist is years in school. I have never seen a class in an educational facility where opinion of President Trump's truthfulness offered a credit. Though, when he is reelected, look for some to spring up in the would be Soviet state currently known as California.
Regards,
CP
 
concernedpuma said:
I believe the gist is years in school. I have never seen a class in an educational facility where opinion of President Trump's truthfulness offered a credit. Though, when he is reelected, look for some to spring up in the would be Soviet state currently known as California.
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I am not using the word "educated" to mean "college degree" or anything like that. Only being educated about Trump. This should not be so hard to understand if people watch news channels, read newspapers, surf the Internet for political news stories, etc. And I am talking about getting facts out of all the media, not just focusing on opinion articles and conservative newspaper editorials.
 
Sabre said:
Your thread title:Thread: Why do educated voters LIKE Donald Trump? and your Poll: Why do you like Donald Trump? Are not in line with one another, two different questions.

The only way I can see this making sense between the two is if you are saying - If you like Trump, you are an educated voter.
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DP gives me posters only five minutes to add a poll. I felt too rushed to think about typing the same question twice.
 
Blue Donkey said:
I am not using the word "educated" to mean "college degree" or anything like that. Only being educated about Trump. This should not be so hard to understand if people watch news channels, read newspapers, surf the Internet for political news stories, etc. And I am talking about getting facts out of all the media, not just focusing on opinion articles and conservative newspaper editorials.
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Understood and fair enough. You are correct that one can be undereducated(as thrown around) and still be educated on a subject. My grind is with those who wish to make education in school's some type of measure of intelligence, laying aside opportunity. That is as base as you will find! If you dislike the President's policies with a good reason, other's Diploma ought be left on the wall and not trumpeted as some sort of elitist, special measure of the Presidents policy supporters. It is as was written, "the Fox knows many things, but the skunk knows one BIG thing!":2razz:
Regards,
CP
 
ecofarm said:
Failing to respond to a pandemic and, instead, calling it a political hoax, cost more jobs than immigrants could ever staff.
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Trump is now trying to ban networks from airing the video of him calling the threat of the coronaviris a hoax.

President Donald Trump's reelection campaign has issued a cease-and-desist letter to television stations that aired what the campaign calls a "patently false, misleading, and deceptive" advertisement by a political action committee.

A video created by Priorities USA Action, a PAC that has supported Democratic presidential candidates, showed a chart of coronavirus cases that rose as Trump's past comments downplaying the virus played in the background.

The letter took issue in particular with the opening of the video, which stitched together Trump saying the phrases "the coronavirus" and "this is their new hoax."
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