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    Re: Why do educated voters LIKE Donald Trump?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Donkey View Post
    If you do not think Donald Trump is a racist, it is your job to prove me wrong about everything. I am not talking about whether Joe Biden is a racist or not - OBVIOUSLY, because this thread is only about TRUMP.
    The burden of proof lands on the one making the initial claim. Even the Wikipedia page about Trump's alleged racism, doesn't even go into detail, nor validation of it's own claims and source.
    Trump vs Biden would be like Mike Tyson vs. a 3-year-old.

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    Re: Why do educated voters LIKE Donald Trump?

    Quote Originally Posted by OldFatGuy View Post
    Why not? For the same reasons her father ascended, so will she. Thank the democratic party. And that does make her significant to the thread topic. Look forward to 12 more years of Trumps.
    Because this thread has nothing to do with anyone except her dad. Donald Trump is THE topic.
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    Re: Why do educated voters LIKE Donald Trump?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Donkey View Post
    Because this thread has nothing to do with anyone except her dad. Donald Trump is THE topic.
    Aw, poor you, another victim of thread drift. Now I'm worried. Are the mattress tag police going to come get me?

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    Re: Why do educated voters LIKE Donald Trump?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oborosen View Post
    The burden of proof lands on the one making the initial claim. Even the Wikipedia page about Trump's alleged racism, doesn't even go into detail, nor validation of its own claims and source.
    If Wikipedia is your only source of information, you are cherry-picking for your own agenda. To get the whole picture, you need to use the news media, since that is all current; Trump's speeches, recorded audio, and tweets; and documents about how he behaves as the POTUS. Being educated about Trump NEVER means picking out a few pages on one frequently-edited website that is often missing reliable sources to validate its information.
    Voting is just like driving.

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    Re: Why do educated voters LIKE Donald Trump?

    Quote Originally Posted by Puigb View Post
    Please, Trump would have easily lost to Obama worse than either McCain or Romney did.

    Trump was lucky he faced Hillary, actually.
    Russia helped.
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    Re: Why do educated voters LIKE Donald Trump?

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Well, the average IQ of a PhD is 130. The average IQ of a high school dropout is under 100.... so, as a matter of probability, the PhD in Art Appreciation likely has a much higher IQ than the high school dropout farmer. That is a statement of probability, not a statement of a fact.

    That said, intelligence is a many faceted thing. Moreover, there are many examples of IQ individuals that never attend college... but if you are playing percentages, the more the education, the higher the intelligence. As my previous post discusses, education actually works to make you intelligent in the same way working out at the gym makes you stronger.

    https://simonton.faculty.ucdavis.edu...vityTalent.pdf

    So, while intelligence and education are different things, as a practical matter they are fairly interdependent. Its safe to say that as a general rule, the greater the education, the greater the average intelligence.
    That is a really lame comparison. Only 1.5% of the population has a PHD. Comparing 1.5% of people mostly coming from wealthy, opportunity filled backgrounds to high school dropouts is a losers ploy. A PHD is nothing but a sign of achievement. It shows you have book knowledge. That is often not the same as intelligence. Steve Jobs had real intelligence. Bill Gates has real intelligence. Warren Buffet has real intelligence. Elon Musk has real intelligence. None of them have PHDs. Almost all the US presidents have had very high IQs but only Woodrow Wilson had a PHD. It takes intelligence to run a country. It takes education to obtain a PHD.

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    Re: Why do educated voters LIKE Donald Trump?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Donkey View Post
    If Wikipedia is your only source of information, you are cherry-picking for your own agenda. To get the whole picture, you need to use the news media, since that is all current; Trump's speeches, recorded audio, and tweets; and documents about how he behaves as the POTUS. Being educated about Trump NEVER means picking out a few pages on one frequently-edited website that is often missing reliable sources to validate its information.
    Then supply something, anything. Just repeatedly saying "that he's racist" does not in fact, prove racism is actually part of the equation here and I used Wikipedia. Because every time I've asked for proof of him being racist in the past. Left wing posters have only linked to that same site and made no attempt to add anything else to the conversation.

    What you're doing her, is making a claim and then attempting to absolve yourself of the responsibility of proving it.

    If I wanted, I could do the same with the democratic party. By simply making some asinine claim and then saying "just look at what they've done" and not adding anything else to the conversation.

    Does that sound like a legitimate way to debate?
    Trump vs Biden would be like Mike Tyson vs. a 3-year-old.

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    Re: Why do educated voters LIKE Donald Trump?

    Quote Originally Posted by Puigb View Post
    What the hell are you babbling about?
    He told the exact truth. Racist voters are the ONLY reason Obama was elected. Now thatís over and done, and the next candidate of color has to have some real substance. That will come from the right, imho.


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    Re: Why do educated voters LIKE Donald Trump?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    I have four degrees I earned going to actual classes, on actual campuses in nationally accredited colleges. Two undergraduate; one in the hard sciences, and one in the social sciences. I also have a Masters in a Social Science, and a professional Doctorate.

    I am also a graduate of several Army specialty training courses both as an Enlisted man and then as an Officer.

    I am also NOT a Republican, although I was registered once, as well as a registered Democrat, and even a registered member of the Libertarian Party. I have been an Independent now for over a decade.

    I also know who Trump is, having lived in NYC off and on for about 1/4 of my life. So when I voted for him I was under no illusions about what kind of person he is.

    I voted for him in 2016, hoping he would win but not expecting him to. This despite the fact that I kept pointing out to other Forum members who derided his chances how well he was doing in his local rallies around the nation.

    I admit I don't like his self-aggrandizement, his willingness to snap back at any challenge, and my God his tweets can drive a person to the edge sometimes.

    But all that pales to what I like about him.

    I'll say this again, he is the Bull in the China Shop I've been hoping to hold the highest office for decades now. Someone who is a clear outsider, and not a puppet tied to strings of "commitments" with special interests like other established politicians.

    I wanted someone to go in there and just shake things up, reveal how the system is corrupt regardless of which Party was in power. My oh my has he done that! We've seen the Bureaucrat's pull out all the stops to "get him." We've seen the "leakers" and "sneakers" come out of the woodwork to attack him. We've seen the MSM go whole hog to destroy him publicly. And we've seen the politicians go crazy trying to undermine him by any means necessary.

    Yet he keeps bulling through, doing whatever he thinks he can to really try to keep his key promises. Despite all odds, he's been doing it.

    That's why I still support him, bad traits notwithstanding.
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    Re: Why do educated voters LIKE Donald Trump?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Donkey View Post
    This is a literal and isolated question. If all you care about is opposing the Democratic Party and supporting whoever the Republican nominee would have been, this thread is not for you. That is not liking Trump himself, just liking what he is not. I want to know why people who like Trump himself, based only on what he says and does, not any lies the conservative media tells.
    It's really simple. Read my wish list below:

    I wanted tax cuts, individual, corporate, and capital gains.

    I wanted the US to regain control of our southern borders and stop the constant massive flow of illegal immigration.

    I wanted fair international trade policies. NAFTA has been a train wreck.

    I wanted the US to pull out of the insanely stupid nuke deal made with the Iranians.

    I wanted the US to pull out of the insanely stupid Paris Climate Accord.

    I wanted the Europeans to contribute fairly to their own military defense and lesson the NATO financial burden on the US.

    I wanted the US to rebuild it's military and fix the problems within the VA Healthcare system.

    I wanted the US to vanquish the terrorist group ISIS as a viable fighting force. I wanted Obamacare repealed and replaced.


    Around the time of the Trump/Hillary debates, I became convinced that Trump would follow through on his campaign promises related to those issues. He has largely done so, except for Obamacare. However he did manage to get the individual mandate repealed, which is sending the entire law back to the SCOTUS. It's possible that the entire law will go down in flames. Why would I not like and support Trump? He is just what the doctor ordered. The last president I was this pleased with was Ronald Reagan.
    Democrats were for the border wall before they were against it!

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