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To Bernie Supporters: What's your Plan?

If Biden Wins the Nomination What Will You Do?

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If Bernie does not win the nomination and Biden does what will you do?

1. I'll vote 3rd Party
2. I won't vote at all
3. I'll vote for Trump
3. I'll vote for Biden

I'd just like to get a non-scientific idea on where Bernie supporters stand. Thanks.
 
lurchadams said:
If Bernie does not win the nomination and Biden does what will you do?

1. I'll vote 3rd Party
2. I won't vote at all
3. I'll vote for Trump
3. I'll vote for Biden

I'd just like to get a non-scientific idea on where Bernie supporters stand. Thanks.
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I pick the second "3".
 
Sorry, I had a beer.
 
i'll be voting against the orange fool.
 
lurchadams said:
If Bernie does not win the nomination and Biden does what will you do?

1. I'll vote 3rd Party
2. I won't vote at all
3. I'll vote for Trump
3. I'll vote for Biden

I'd just like to get a non-scientific idea on where Bernie supporters stand. Thanks.
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It'll be interesting to see how many non-Bernie supporters this thread ultimately attracts; it's a good thing you made the poll non-anonymous.

To be frank, while once upon a time I was on board to vote blue no matter who, it's getting to the point where it depends. Biden just stuck a needle in my eye in saying that he would probably outright veto a compromised MFA bill that somehow made it through the House and Senate. Beyond that, if his running mate is another Tim Kaine tier slap in the face, while he takes nothing of substance from Sanders' platform, as if the moderate wing has learned exactly nothing from 2016, I'm not going to lie: I'll be exceedingly tempted to sit this one out.
 
The vast majority will vote Biden, including many who can't stand him, simply to end Trump's tyranny.

Yes, there will be 10-20% that won't support our nominee. This happens every election, we just don't talk about it.
 
Surrealistik said:
It'll be interesting to see how many non-Bernie supporters this thread ultimately attracts; it's a good thing you made the poll non-anonymous.

To be frank, while once upon a time I was on board to vote blue no matter who, it's getting to the point where it depends. Biden just stuck a needle in my eye in saying that he would probably outright veto a compromised MFA bill that somehow made it through the House and Senate. Beyond that, if his running mate is another Tim Kaine tier slap in the face, while he takes nothing of substance from Sanders' platform, as if the moderate wing has learned exactly nothing from 2016, I'm not going to lie: I'll be exceedingly tempted to sit this one out.
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Fair enough. This is the type of feedback I was looking for!
 
Bernie voters don't turn up to vote apparently.
 
lurchadams said:
Fair enough. This is the type of feedback I was looking for!
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This is coming from a Sanders supporter who voted for Clinton by the way.

I figure that by now the moderate lane should know better than to take the left's support for granted, and if they commit the exact same errors per their own unchecked hubris, despite what should have been a greatly instructive election in 2016, they deserve to lose; there is power in not voting as well.
 
Surrealistik said:
This is coming from a Sanders supporter who voted for Clinton by the way.

I figure that by now the moderate lane should know better than to take the left's support for granted, and if they commit the exact same errors per their own unchecked hubris, despite what should have been a greatly instructive election in 2016, they deserve to lose; there is power in not voting as well.
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There's also the danger that trump will be reelected and both our democracy and reputation as a world leader will continue to erode.
 
lurchadams said:
There's also the danger that trump will be reelected and both our democracy and reputation as a world leader will continue to erode.
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I'm going to be frank with you: Dubya was substantially and demonstrably worse; he was easily and by far the worst modern era president thus far, for all the negative hype coalescing around Trump (who is indeed an awful president, no question), and we survived him; scarred to be sure, but ultimately fine.
 
Surrealistik said:
I'm going to be frank with you: Dubya was substantially and demonstrably worse; he was easily and by far the worst modern era president thus far, for all the negative hype coalescing around Trump (who is indeed an awful president, no question), and we survived him; scarred to be sure, but ultimately fine.
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Respectfully disagree with regard to our Federal court system. He'll have 4 more years to appoint fascist judges with lifetime terms - it will take us literally decades to get past that.
 
lurchadams said:
Respectfully disagree with regard to our Federal court system. He'll have 4 more years to appoint fascist judges with lifetime terms - it will take us literally decades to get past that.
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So we reform the SCOTUS when we next get power; it's not an intractable problem.

I'm sure there are some people who fear that Trump will ultimately prove an existential threat to the democratic character of the United States, and we may never get a chance at government again, but I think that's alarmist and more than a bridge too far.
 
I'll get extremely stoned as the proverbial high-kite. (Legal for me in Florida)..and then walk down to the poll precinct, grab my fingers with a pair of pliers and force them to vote for Biden.
 
lurchadams said:
There's also the danger that trump will be reelected and both our democracy and reputation as a world leader will continue to erode.
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You sorely understate the risk. We have lost 8 years of potential climate change mitigation with this 4 year term, ( four years to negotiate and pass a treaty and then you have got those 2 year, four year and ten year goals sitting in the treaty itself) Now add on another four year wait, just to get countries to sit at a table and start all over. The planet is our risk, not our democracy or reputation. Considering the exponential harm each year without costs in time and the draconian steps needed to make up that time, that's a huge and palpable risk.
 
btthegreat said:
You sorely understate the risk. We have lost 8 years of potential climate change mitigation with this 4 year term, ( four years to negotiate and pass a treaty and then you have got those 2 year, four year and ten year goals sitting in the treaty itself) Now add on another four year wait, just to get countries to sit at a table and start all over. The planet is our risk, not our democracy or reputation.
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The three are not mutually exclusive.
 
HIP56948 said:
I'll get extremely stoned as the proverbial high-kite. (Legal for me in Florida)..and then walk down to the poll precinct, grab my fingers with a pair of pliers and force them to vote for Biden.
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sativa, indica, or hybrid?
 
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