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    Is it Time to Start Holding Sanctuary States Accountable for Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants?

    This story is fairly typical now, and I don't think many of us will be surprised that the criminals involved were illegal immigrants:

    A man charged with raping an 11-year-old girl in Maryland was living in the United States illegally, authorities said. Jonathan Coreas-Salamanca, 20, was arrested along with Ivan Reyes Lopez, 19, earlier this month at the high schools they attended in Montgomery County, Md., WJLA-TV reported. Both men are charged with second-degree rape.

    Illegal immigrant charged with raping Maryland girl, 11 | Fox News
    These two illegal aliens were attending high school, at ages 19 & 20. They targeted an 11 year old for rape on multiple occasions. Maryland is a Sanctuary State, and was paying for grown men to attend high school alongside American children. Should we start holding sanctuary states accountable for the many rapes and murders of American citizens that occur on their watch?
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    Re: Is it Time to Start Holding Sanctuary States Accountable for Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by truthatallcost View Post
    This story is fairly typical now, and I don't think many of us will be surprised that the criminals involved were illegal immigrants:



    These two illegal aliens were attending high school, at ages 19 & 20. They targeted an 11 year old for rape on multiple occasions. Maryland is a Sanctuary State, and was paying for grown men to attend high school alongside American children. Should we start holding sanctuary states accountable for the many rapes and murders of American citizens that occur on their watch?
    For exercising rights granted to them by the Constitution? I thought R's were all about states rights. Remember how R's explain the Civil War? I thought it was all about states rights.
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    Re: Is it Time to Start Holding Sanctuary States Accountable for Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by mrjurrs View Post
    For exercising rights granted to them by the Constitution? I thought R's were all about states rights. Remember how R's explain the Civil War? I thought it was all about states rights.
    Deliberately sabotaging ICE's efforts to enforce federal laws is what's occurring here. The framers of the constitution never envisioned American children being raped by men who've been protected by state governments against being repatriated to their country of origin.
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    Re: Is it Time to Start Holding Sanctuary States Accountable for Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigra

    By all means, make them apologize.
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    Re: Is it Time to Start Holding Sanctuary States Accountable for Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by truthatallcost View Post
    This story is fairly typical now, and I don't think many of us will be surprised that the criminals involved were illegal immigrants:



    These two illegal aliens were attending high school, at ages 19 & 20. They targeted an 11 year old for rape on multiple occasions. Maryland is a Sanctuary State, and was paying for grown men to attend high school alongside American children. Should we start holding sanctuary states accountable for the many rapes and murders of American citizens that occur on their watch?
    The federal government is responsible for keeping illegal immigrants out. You want state and city police and county sheriffs to have to clean up after federal incompetence, That's what this is about.
    Where's that wall your Dear Leader promised that was going to solve this? Is there 3+ years worth of progress to point to?
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    Re: Is it Time to Start Holding Sanctuary States Accountable for Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by mrjurrs View Post
    For exercising rights granted to them by the Constitution? I thought R's were all about states rights. Remember how R's explain the Civil War? I thought it was all about states rights.
    What about the right of Americans not to be murdered, raped or victimized in other ways by criminals who should never have been allowed to stay in this country in the first place?
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    Re: Is it Time to Start Holding Sanctuary States Accountable for Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigra

    While I do not believe that state and local law enforcement have a duty to hunt down and arrest illegals just for being illegal, I do believe that actively thwarting ICE---the thing that would get normal people arrested-- is unacceptable. By all means punish. My state is on the list so not like I am being holier than thou about it.

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    Re: Is it Time to Start Holding Sanctuary States Accountable for Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigra

    what is it about Mexicans and Latinos that drives you people nuts? You do realize they have been here since before we were a country, right? Always been here folks, nothing new, move along. Oh wait, a few Mexicans moved into your lily white town and you are freaking out? Chill out, your local Mexican food joint is about to get way better.
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    Re: Is it Time to Start Holding Sanctuary States Accountable for Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    What about the right of Americans not to be murdered, raped or victimized in other ways by criminals who should never have been allowed to stay in this country in the first place?
    Shouldn't have been allowed in, in the first place. Who's that on? Who's mess is it and why should city and county taxpayers be on the hook to clean it up?
    Nobody says the city police or state troopers should do the DEA's job. But lots of people want them doing ICE's job.
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    Re: Is it Time to Start Holding Sanctuary States Accountable for Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by truthatallcost View Post
    This story is fairly typical now, and I don't think many of us will be surprised that the criminals involved were illegal immigrants:



    These two illegal aliens were attending high school, at ages 19 & 20. They targeted an 11 year old for rape on multiple occasions. Maryland is a Sanctuary State, and was paying for grown men to attend high school alongside American children. Should we start holding sanctuary states accountable for the many rapes and murders of American citizens that occur on their watch?
    The linked article lacks any evidence that the illegal immigrant perp(s) were previously arrested or that they were under federal immigration law violation detainers. It did include this nugget:

    The Washington Examiner reported that Montgomery County is allowing ICE to place detainers on undocumented immigrants, which allows agents to pick them up from jail to begin deportation proceedings.

    The report said that if ICE agents don't arrive on time or miss an appointment to pick up the undocumented immigrants, they are released.

    The county has seen a spike in crime committed by undocumented immigrants in recent years. Last year, it rolled back its sanctuary policy after following the arrests of several undocumented immigrants for alleged rape or sexual abuse.
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