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    MSNBC: The FBI should entrap white kids.




    Do you agree with bimbo and the spook? Should the FBI be entrapping White kids? I didn't approve of the FBI's "radicalizing and entrapment" campaign against muslims and I sure as hell don't approve of it against White kids.

    Also, INB4's only work before you start conducting gay ops on political dissidents. It's a little late now.
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    Re: MSNBC: The FBI should entrap white kids.

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    Do you agree with bimbo and the spook? Should the FBI be entrapping White kids? I didn't approve of the FBI's "radicalizing and entrapment" campaign against muslims and I sure as hell don't approve of it against White kids.

    Also, INB4's only work before you start conducting gay ops on political dissidents. It's a little late now.
    I'm reminded of the "first they came for X, and we didn't stop them because we weren't X" line.

    I've heard stories over the years about how the FBI or another agency provided supplies, knowledge, and aid to someone and then arrested them for the crime they would likely never have been able to even consider accomplishing without that aid.

    Edit: Maybe there's a place for that kind of tactic, but I dislike it.
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    Re: MSNBC: The FBI should entrap white kids.

    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenBasehead View Post
    bimbo... spook... entrapping White kids... muslims... against White kids... conducting gay ops on political dissidents.

    What about physically disabled or challenged people?

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    Re: MSNBC: The FBI should entrap white kids.

    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenBasehead View Post



    Do you agree with bimbo and the spook? Should the FBI be entrapping White kids? I didn't approve of the FBI's "radicalizing and entrapment" campaign against muslims and I sure as hell don't approve of it against White kids.

    Also, INB4's only work before you start conducting gay ops on political dissidents. It's a little late now.
    If you're talking about the FBI befriending kids/young adults online and telling them they could get them bomb making materials or instructional materials if they wanted it, absolutely not... That is entrapment. If you're talking about the FBI running a website dedicated to explosives and bomb making, and someone solicits them for materials or instructions, then I don't have a problem with that.... As long as we're talking about investigating... Preemptive arrests are total BS and arresting someone just for inquiring about things I'm absolutely against.

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    Re: MSNBC: The FBI should entrap white kids.

    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenBasehead View Post



    Do you agree with bimbo and the spook? Should the FBI be entrapping White kids? I didn't approve of the FBI's "radicalizing and entrapment" campaign against muslims and I sure as hell don't approve of it against White kids.

    Also, INB4's only work before you start conducting gay ops on political dissidents. It's a little late now.
    The FBI does entrap white wannabe terrorists or otherwise reclusive mentally disturbed white people.
    How do you like being under government ordered house arrest for the crime of existing?

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    What about physically disabled or challenged people?
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    Re: MSNBC: The FBI should entrap white kids.

    Entrapment no, regardless of color. Stings yes, regardless of color.
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    Re: MSNBC: The FBI should entrap white kids.

    Illegal Entrapment of anyone is just that... Illegal!

    645. Entrapment—Elements

    Entrapment is a complete defense to a criminal charge, on the theory that "Government agents may not originate a criminal design, implant in an innocent person's mind the disposition to commit a criminal act, and then induce commission of the crime so that the Government may prosecute." Jacobson v. United States, 503 U.S. 540, 548 (1992). A valid entrapment defense has two related elements: (1) government inducement of the crime, and (2) the defendant's lack of predisposition to engage in the criminal conduct. Mathews v. United States, 485 U.S. 58, 63 (1988). Of the two elements, predisposition is by far the more important.


    Inducement is the threshold issue in the entrapment defense. Mere solicitation to commit a crime is not inducement. Sorrells v. United States, 287 U.S. 435, 451 (1932). Nor does the government's use of artifice, stratagem, pretense, or deceit establish inducement. Id. at 441. Rather, inducement requires a showing of at least persuasion or mild coercion, United States v. Nations, 764 F.2d 1073, 1080 (5th Cir. 1985); pleas based on need, sympathy, or friendship, ibid.; or extraordinary promises of the sort "that would blind the ordinary person to his legal duties," United States v. Evans, 924 F.2d 714, 717 (7th Cir. 1991). See also United States v. Kelly, 748 F.2d 691, 698 (D.C. Cir. 1984) (inducement shown only if government's behavior was such that "a law-abiding citizen's will to obey the law could have been overborne"); United States v. Johnson, 872 F.2d 612, 620 (5th Cir. 1989) (inducement shown if government created "a substantial risk that an offense would be committed by a person other than one ready to commit it").

    Even if inducement has been shown, a finding of predisposition is fatal to an entrapment defense. The predisposition inquiry focuses upon whether the defendant "was an unwary innocent or, instead, an unwary criminal who readily availed himself of the opportunity to perpetrate the crime." Mathews, 485 U.S. at 63. Thus, predisposition should not be confused with intent or mens rea: a person may have the requisite intent to commit the crime, yet be entrapped. Also, predisposition may exist even in the absence of prior criminal involvement: "the ready commission of the criminal act," such as where a defendant promptly accepts an undercover agent's offer of an opportunity to buy or sell drugs, may itself establish predisposition. Jacobson, 503 U.S. at 550.

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    Re: MSNBC: The FBI should entrap white kids.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
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    Re: MSNBC: The FBI should entrap white kids.

    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenBasehead View Post



    Do you agree with bimbo and the spook? Should the FBI be entrapping White kids? I didn't approve of the FBI's "radicalizing and entrapment" campaign against muslims and I sure as hell don't approve of it against White kids.

    Also, INB4's only work before you start conducting gay ops on political dissidents. It's a little late now.
    I've said it before and I'll say it again. The FBI is rapidly becoming one of the country's biggest promoters of terrorist activity.
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