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    Re: Is Trump a Fascist?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Actually he hires them on a regular basis. Your Democratic Party is having a color issue in this presidential race.
    Plus we have to ignore & forget the history of democrats..... the original racist party LOL

    ... But TRUMP is a racist and a this and a that ... Oh ! He's a big meanie and we don't like him ! That mean guy LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I see both of you have chosen to skip the whole, "if you hug a black person, that proves you're not a nazi" racist rhetoric. How strange.
    The entire trump is a racist stuff is so stupid & childish ... if you like looking ridiculous like your buddy Joe Biden, keep it up though ; )

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    Re: Is Trump a Fascist?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Prove it.
    He thinks that he did in post #6

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    Re: Is Trump a Fascist?

    Quote Originally Posted by j brown's body View Post
    Yes, the ones that help the working class. But even then, they opposed unions, putting them back on Trump's side.
    LOL, the working class has been helped for the past three plus years. More jobs, higher wages, lower taxes. Dems are promising more taxes, more regulations, higher prices and less opportunity.
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    Re: Is Trump a Fascist?

    Quote Originally Posted by bomberfox View Post
    I would say the hatred of the enlightenment has always been a feature of fascism.
    The 21st Century Uniquely American Fascism of Putin-Trump & Rowers draws on the 20th century fascism of the European past that was and remains antithetical to the Enlightenment and its philosophers. In these ways and more the Republican Party and the American Right have become what we with allied Europeans took up arms to fight against throughout the 20th century in defense of precepts, values, mores that originated with the Enlightenment.





    The American Right's long term and consistent rejection of the EU and modern European institutions that have a lineage from the rationality and classic Liberalism of the Enlightenment are high profile and vehement. The Republican Party of the American Right heaped a constant praise on Putin from 2012 until mid 2015 when Trump descended the escalator in Faulty Tower. The Republican Party of the American Right has always hailed Putin as the strongman leader, the master strategist, the master chess player, the efficient defender of an enforced unitary and monolithic society and its politics and so on.

    In contrast the American Right does not criticize or critique Putin and Russia, focusing instead against European precepts, values, mores, immigration policies in particular among other post nationalist endeavors, citing these as threatening Russia via the Nato alliance that -- precisely the opposite -- protects Europe from Russia and preserves European security and defends it. It is Putin who has changed the borders in Europe by force of state arms for the first time since World War II. The Republican Party meanwhile has become the largest pro Russia political party outside of Russia.



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    Re: Is Trump a Fascist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tangmo View Post
    The 21st Century Uniquely American Fascism of Putin-Trump & Rowers draws on the 20th century fascism of the European past that was and remains antithetical to the Enlightenment and its philosophers. In these ways and more the Republican Party and the American Right have become what we with allied Europeans took up arms to fight against throughout the 20th century in defense of precepts, values, mores that originated with the Enlightenment.





    The American Right's long term and consistent rejection of the EU and modern European institutions that have a lineage from the rationality and classic Liberalism of the Enlightenment are high profile and vehement. The Republican Party of the American Right heaped a constant praise on Putin from 2012 until mid 2015 when Trump descended the escalator in Faulty Tower. The Republican Party of the American Right has always hailed Putin as the strongman leader, the master strategist, the master chess player, the efficient defender of an enforced unitary and monolithic society and its politics and so on.

    In contrast the American Right does not criticize or critique Putin and Russia, focusing instead against European precepts, values, mores, immigration policies in particular among other post nationalist endeavors, citing these as threatening Russia via the Nato alliance that -- precisely the opposite -- protects Europe from Russia and preserves European security and defends it. It is Putin who has changed the borders in Europe by force of state arms for the first time since World War II. The Republican Party meanwhile has become the largest pro Russia political party outside of Russia.



    We agree.


    See also the reason twump cultists need to play little “hypocrisy” games is they know they are in deep **** so the only way they can pull off any victory is by trying to make their opponents look just as bad as they are. Its the never play defense tactic

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    Re: Is Trump a Fascist?

    Quote Originally Posted by captaintrips View Post
    Plus we have to ignore & forget the history of democrats..... the original racist party LOL

    ... But TRUMP is a racist and a this and a that ... Oh ! He's a big meanie and we don't like him ! That mean guy LOL



    The entire trump is a racist stuff is so stupid & childish ... if you like looking ridiculous like your buddy Joe Biden, keep it up though ; )
    Lets forget the southern strategy while we are digging into more than 100 years ago....


    See also the reason twump cultists need to play little “hypocrisy” games is they know they are in deep **** so the only way they can pull off any victory is by trying to make their opponents look just as bad as they are. Its the never play defense tactic

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    Re: Is Trump a Fascist?

    Quote Originally Posted by mrjurrs View Post
    Diminishing power of government while enhancing power of the executive seems contrary to your point.
    Sorry, but the power of the executive has reduced under Trump. This was already noted when I commented on how there has been a reduction in regulations and the size and scope of the bureaucratic institutions. These are all executive powers that have been reduced. If he was consolidating power he wouldn't have taken away the things that give him the power in the first place.
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    Re: Is Trump a Fascist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post


    He is as fascist as he can be at this point. There is every indication that given time and opportunity he will become more so. It doesn't happen overnight.

    When Trump acts on anything the vast majority of the time he does so for personal or political reasons, rarely for the People. When he acts for political reasons it is based on a personal reason.

    Look at his late and half-assed response to the Corona Virus. He's only concerned about virus's affect on the stock market not the possible pain, suffering and death of Americans.
    I still think he's more of a wannabe dictator - a Batista or Pinochet: not idealistic in any way and no real vision for the country, just a desire to hoard power. The real danger is that as long as Republicans keep priming the pump they'll end up with a genuine fascist one day.

    They are trying to stop as many people voting as possible, maintain minority rule, stack the courts and prime their electorate - many of them religious 'followers' - to get behind a real strongman when he comes along. This one will be a competent leader and statesman and hide his intentions much better than Trump can. He will be able to wrangle different branches of government and party factions more effectively, and more efficiently deploy emergency powers to restrict the press, stifle dissent, reduce checks and balances. Then America is in trouble.
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    Re: Is Trump a Fascist?

    Quote Originally Posted by uptower View Post
    I still think he's more of a wannabe dictator - a Batista or Pinochet: not idealistic in any way and no real vision for the country, just a desire to hoard power. The real danger is that as long as Republicans keep priming the pump they'll end up with a genuine fascist one day.

    They are trying to stop as many people voting as possible, maintain minority rule, stack the courts and prime their electorate - many of them religious 'followers' - to get behind a real strongman when he comes along. This one will be a competent leader and statesman and hide his intentions much better than Trump can. He will be able to wrangle different branches of government and party factions more effectively, and more efficiently deploy emergency powers to restrict the press, stifle dissent, reduce checks and balances. Then America is in trouble.
    OK, I see what you are saying and I agree. Trump has no grand scheme or ideology. IMHO he isn’t that bright nor does he have even a basic understanding of governance nor does he have the personal discipline to conceive or implement a grand political change. Trump simply wants more power and control because he is extremely insecure and a malignant narcissist.

    Also, Trump’s assery may well leave a perfect opening for a much smarter person with fascist designs to replace him.








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    Re: Is Trump a Fascist?

    Quote Originally Posted by j brown's body View Post
    Reading issue? Corporatism is used in the definition of fascism, but not to indicate that corporations run the government, rather vice versa. In particular, Italy's version is the original. Mussolini had the government buying businesses and replacing the management.

    Go promote you ideas of big businesses taking over the world in the forum reserved for conspiracy theories.

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