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Are today's kids spoiled?

What's the cause of today's bratty children?

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Chomsky said:
No! Absolutely not! No, "friends"!

Why would you want your child's sacred & unique parent-child bond be reduced to "friends"? WTF? This "friends" stuff is nonsense and completely demeaning to the relationship you enjoy with your children, and theirs with you.
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I don’t agree with the friends model, but have seen it in more than a few parent/child relationships......
 
Helix said:
I'm spoiling mine as we speak. However, I will do my best to make sure that he doesn't end up too presidential.
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Do better than 'try your best'. The planet cannot handle another 'very stable genius'
 
btthegreat said:
Do better than 'try your best'. The planet cannot handle another 'very stable genius'
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He's not turning into that if I have any say in the matter.
 
Chomsky said:
No! Absolutely not! No, "friends"!

Why would you want your child's sacred & unique parent-child bond be reduced to "friends"? WTF? This "friends" stuff is nonsense and completely demeaning to the relationship you enjoy with your children, and theirs with you.
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That really depends on how far you take it. Like, unlike with my mom, who irritates me because she has something to say about what I'm wearing, or how my hair looks, blah blah blah. My dad doesn't do any of that, and I actually have zero problem talking to him about anything super personal, and I just have an overall more relaxed demeanor around my dad. As a consequence, I like hanging out with my dad more than with my mom. I feel like I always have a guard up with my mom, and our relationship is still strained to an extent.

I think 100% friend is a bit too far, but mutual understanding goes a long way to strengthen a parent-child relationship, I think.
 
longview said:
IMOHO, I think kids actually want boundaries, but also want to push them.
They need to understand from a very early age, that there are consequences to their actions and choices.
Parents need to agree ahead of time what is acceptable behavior and stick to it.
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Yep. Kids do best with appropriate boundaries for where they are in their development stages, where they can push and expand the boundaries as they grow and prove themselves capable of additionally freedom & autonomy.

Each kid is unique. I never put my kids in what I believed was undue risk, but I did let them grow at the levels they could accept. And done right, trust me, many can handle tremendous responsibility and autonomy beyond their less well mentored peers! I give my kids all the freedom they can take, as long as they keepshowing good judgement and learn and modifiy their behaviours when they occasionally screw-up. An occasional screw-up is fine, as long as the kid can show you where they attempted a rational thought process - even if it fell short of ideal.
 
ecofarm said:
It's not like kids have a good example today in the nation's top representative. Most parents usher children out of the room if he's on TV. If they behaved like him, they'd be suspended all the time.

Perhaps the larger concern here is "wtf happened to Trump's generation?"
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Screwy.... the blame Trump excuse, Trump made me a poor, poor victim. What a hilarious joke!
You screw up but want to blame the president? :cuckoo:
 
Some are. Some aren't. Same as its always been.
 
Rexedgar said:
My experience growing up was that there were serious consequences to mouthing off to older/bigger kids. I also felt that the younger kids coming up, in school or on the playground, had a much easier time of it than we had. The younger kids didn’t seem to be constrained by the same fear/respect that we had to adhere to.

Older generations always seem to think that things are easier on the following group/s. I subscribe to the theory.
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Bingo bingo , nailed that nail on the head.

Compared to our great, great grandparents we are all spoiled rotten.

My childhood was hard but I always knew my dad's was worst and his dad's was even more worst so I knew never to whine.

Everyone here complaining about kids now days are spoiled rotten little chits themselves compared to their grandparents.

Some of the major complaints about kids now days are about lack of respect. BS, they are only imitating their parents.

You want to find lack of respect just waltz through some of the threads here.
 
Helix said:
I doubt that Tweety would last two months on a message board with rules like this one. However, I'm not ready to indict the generation.
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The thread topic is generational. I think if we're gonna question a generation, there's an orange elephant in the room.
 
longview said:
I resemble that remark!
At some level it is OK for grandparents to spoil the grand kids,
but the boundaries of what is acceptable behavior needs to remain.
A example might be the 5 year old grand son, is not allowed to strike ether of his two year old sisters, for any reason.
Even if they hit him, he cannot hit them back!
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:thumbs:

I raised my son the help his sister with her coat & chair when we go out to restaurants, along with a few other dying chivalrous acts. It is my great hope he will treat the other women he meets later in life with the same consideration & respect, and it's also my hope my daughter will expect the same courtesy and respect from the men she allows into her life.

It's really old school, but I always take my wife's coat and help her with her seat in public. She loves it done for her, and I love doing it. It just exudes respect, and I find it romantic!
 
Common Sense 1 said:
Screwy.... the blame Trump excuse, Trump made me a poor, poor victim. What a hilarious joke!
You screw up but want to blame the president? :cuckoo:
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You just don't get it. There was a time in this country in which the President was someone we looked up to.

Am afraid that day is gone and will never return.
 
Common Sense 1 said:
Screwy.... the blame Trump excuse, Trump made me a poor, poor victim. What a hilarious joke!
You screw up but want to blame the president? :cuckoo:
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So leaders don't actually lead by example.
And interference in elections/marketing has no effect on elections.

What a dream world you appear to live in.
 
radioman said:
Yes, kids are spoiled.
Everyday, I monitor the children walking to and from school.
Just waiting for them to step out of line or, worse yet, step on my lawn.
I'm always ready with a water hose....ha-ha...just kidding....maybe.
Kids are spoiled, entitled little punks....except for my wonderful grandchildren.
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:mrgreen:
 
ecofarm said:
The thread topic is generational. I think if we're gonna question a generation, there's an orange elephant in the room.
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I thought that you didn’t paint with a broad brush........:thinking
 
ecofarm said:
The thread topic is generational. I think if we're gonna question a generation, there's an orange elephant in the room.
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One shouting moron in orange clown paint isn't a generation.
 
radioman said:
Good point !!!
Beating defenseless children is what wise parents do.
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Oh come-on now. You know that's a common expression to denote not raising undisciplined kids. It has nothing to do "beating", just like my use of "kids" does not refer to goats!
 
Chomsky said:
:thumbs:

I raised my son the help his sister with her coat & chair when we go out to restaurants, along with a few other dying chivalrous acts. It is my great hope he will treat the other women he meets later in life with the same consideration & respect, and it's also my hope my daughter will expect the same courtesy and respect from the men she allows into her life.

It's really old school, but I always take my wife's coat and help her with her seat in public. She loves it done for her, and I love doing it. It just exudes respect, and I find it romantic!
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Totally agree. How much energy does it take to help with the coat and seat?

That along with opening doors for others. I bet you are like me and totally impressed when a member of another party going through doors will stand and hold the door for your party. It does not take that much energy to do that but it provides that acknowledgement that we are trying to make it through this life and want others to make it too.
 
Helix said:
One shouting moron in orange clown paint isn't a generation.
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His generation is responsible for him and his generation is responsible for electing him. They did this to us. If we're gonna say "**** a generation", I say **** those old bigoted pieces of ****.
 
Rexedgar said:
That’s revenge!



The kids need to believe that there will be a consequence and parents need to follow through. There WILL BE consequences on the street when they act up.....
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Well said! :thumbs:

Our job is to prepare them for going-out into world.
 
Mr Person said:
The problem with "spare the rod, spoil the child" is that it's generally used as a euphemism for outright child abuse, not the teaching of consequences.
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Oh, come-on. I'm not sure what crowd you're getting that from, but I suggest you chose a better one - for that reference at least.

I've heard that term all my life, and it never involved beatings.
 
Chomsky said:
Well said! :thumbs:

Our job is to prepare them for going-out into world.
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I think it is a concept lost on the “we don’t keep score” and “we don’t want to upset their self-esteem” parents out there. In the real world, scores are kept and your self-esteem is fair game.....you better be able to keep pace.
 
Chomsky said:
Oh, come-on. I'm not sure what crowd you're getting that from, but I suggest you chose a better one - for that reference at least.

I've heard that term all my life, and it never involved beatings.
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I've seen it used to defend use of a literal rod, or a belt, etc. That's beating, even if the person doing it considers it "discipline." :shrug:
 
Chomsky said:
:thumbs:

I raised my son the help his sister with her coat & chair when we go out to restaurants, along with a few other dying chivalrous acts. It is my great hope he will treat the other women he meets later in life with the same consideration & respect, and it's also my hope my daughter will expect the same courtesy and respect from the men she allows into her life.

It's really old school, but I always take my wife's coat and help her with her seat in public. She loves it done for her, and I love doing it. It just exudes respect, and I find it romantic!
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I was taught to get up whenever a woman approached a table, when she left a table, etc. These actions get raised eyebrows in this day and age....
 
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