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Do you think Bloomberg knew he'd be savaged going in?

Do you think Bloomberg knew he'd be savaged going in?

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    Votes: 4 10.8%

  • Yes, he knew going in

    Votes: 22 59.5%

  • No, he was surprised

    Votes: 11 29.7%
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The communists at NPR review the debate.



Do you think Bloomberg knew he'd be savaged going in?

He's made 64 billion dollars in his life, starting from nothing. He's not dumb.
 
He had to have known going into this that he'd be attacked pretty fiercely.
 
Ikari said:
He had to have known going into this that he'd be attacked pretty fiercely.
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A lot of people in that station in life are used to people kissing their ass 24/7. I think he was surprised tbh. But, mainly because of expectations set up from life experience.
 
Winston said:
A lot of people in that station in life are used to people kissing their ass 24/7. I think he was surprised tbh. But, mainly because of expectations set up from life experience.
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Maybe when he was in business.

But he was mayor of New York City for 12 years, dealing with millions of people, and some of them like Trump.
 
Like Tom Selleck says in that obnoxious commercial for AAG home mortgages, "this isn't my first rodeo". Oh I hate that commercial and change the channel when it comes on. But Michael Bloomberg is not a babe in the woods by any means when it comes to public appearances, hostile debates and being put on the spot. It wasn't his 'first rodeo' by any means. He has a thick skin and wasn't flummoxed by Elizabeth Warren. He knew she was using it to gain in the polls. He'll be more prepared for any vicious attacks in the next debate.
 
I wonder if when Bloomberg doesn't get the nomination Bloomberg will he still spend hundreds of millions in November in support of whichever millionaire socialist savagely personally attacked him?
 
I don't know if he did, but he should have. He should've realized he was getting into a debate with a bunch of viscious, hate filled ****ers like Warren. Bloomberg isn't a member of their tribe. They'd love to slap him and take his money. He didn't build that stuff that made him wealthy.
 
swing_voter said:


The communists at NPR review the debate.



Do you think Bloomberg knew he'd be savaged going in?

He's made 64 billion dollars in his life, starting from nothing. He's not dumb.
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He knew what was coming, but had to weather it to step into the race to Super Tuesday. Thing is now they all had their say and the Dems can get back to choosing which candidate is best. Should get Real interesting once it is down to trump and the winner. Anyone want to guess if trump will be brave enough to debate any opponent, I think he is too cowardly to try because then the real exposure takes place.
 
swing_voter said:


The communists at NPR review the debate.



Do you think Bloomberg knew he'd be savaged going in?

He's made 64 billion dollars in his life, starting from nothing. He's not dumb.
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If there's a lesson to be learned from history, check back to the GOP primary debate in NH, 2016. Those in that debate didn't attack the front runner, but the number two guy. Especially Christie which once that debate was over, Trump was pretty much assured the nomination. You can't level the playing field by going after number two. You can't close the gap between yourself and number one by going after number two. The only way you can do that is to go after number one, the front runner.

So last night probably knocked the number two candidate down a notch or two, but strengthen the front runner, in this case Sanders. Like in NH 2016, it might be too late to knock Sanders off or even down a peg. Sanders has momentum to carry into the Nevada Caucus, on to South Carolina and Super Tuesday. Last night by concentrating on Bloomberg, the number two guy, the rest added to Sanders momentum and to strengthening his position for the upcoming primaries. Perhaps all the rest drove their first few nails into their coffin on the road to burial of their campaign and to withdrawal.

Perhaps each and every debater just blew their chance to catch the number one guy, the front runner by going after number two. Time will tell. But perhaps each one of them should have looked back on history, back to the GOP NH primary and what that meant to the front runner then.

If I could ask them all a question, it would be just who are these candidates other than Sanders getting their political advice from? It seems to me, it's losers advice. Totally against conventional political wisdom if one wanted to win the nomination. Or maybe, all of them had conceded the nomination to Sanders and wanted to help him get there or perhaps, just deny Bloomberg the nomination even if it meant deep sixing their own chances.

Then again, I might be too old fashioned or just too old period to understand how this new fangled political games are played today.
 
Bloomberg, a three-time mayor of NYC, knew what to expect it in the debate and easily survived it.
 
joko104 said:
I wonder if when Bloomberg doesn't get the nomination Bloomberg will he still spend hundreds of millions in November in support of whichever millionaire socialist savagely personally attacked him?
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Sure because it's all partisan politics. They attack each other during the campaign, the debates, and the primaries, but then they do an about-face by giving them full support and kissing their asses when the election comes around.

It's sickening when you think about it but that's politics!
 
Bloomberg is part of the Democrat establishment. In this race he is putting up his money NOT to win the nomination, but to be a placeholder of sorts; the punching bag for the far left socialist progressives in the Democrat party. A means to steer people back to the middle as Sanders and Warren expose THEMSELVES as being outside of where the democrat party platform needs to be to beat Donald Trump.

Because every time Sanders attacks Bloomberg or Biden, to MOST democrats they see that as an attack on the very definition of a democrat. And at another level, I am certain that the establishment democrats would rather see their party loose to Trump--- especially if the alternative is Sanders, so that in the next four years their party after hitting rock bottom can emerge again as a viable party closer to the center than off the reservation on the far left.
 
Bloomberg has a long history in NYC of giving big "donations" to his critics in order to silence them. Long before last nights debate he stated that he would financially back whoever gets the nomination, so my guess is he believed none of them would attack him out for fear of not getting his money if they won the nomination.

In other words, he counted on them to behave rationally and not attack him. That's a big mistake when dealing with the political left, since as a group, they are irrational imbeciles, which is one reason why every leftist country turns into a basket case.

The big question now is, will Bloomberg give money to someone who has humiliated him in public?
 
aociswundumho said:
Bloomberg has a long history in NYC of giving big "donations" to his critics in order to silence them. Long before last nights debate he stated that he would financially back whoever gets the nomination, so my guess is he believed none of them would attack him out for fear of not getting his money if they won the nomination.

In other words, he counted on them to behave rationally and not attack him. That's a big mistake when dealing with the political left, since as a group, they are irrational imbeciles, which is one reason why every leftist country turns into a basket case.

The big question now is, will Bloomberg give money to someone who has humiliated him in public?
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Biden, Sanders and Warren are TOO OLD and rich to care. That young "Mayor Pete" better look out when he runs statewide again for something. His Democratic primary opponent might just end up with a $10 million dollar war chest.
 




Here's Bloomberg from 1 hour ago.
 
If Bloomberg was smart...

On the whole sexual assault/harassment front. Yep...release everyone from their NDAs and own EVERYTHING. Will it hurt him? Its going to hurt him anyway...at least this way he is up front. "Look...Im an old man raised in a time where the kind of stupid sexist **** I said was commonplace. It was wrong. I own it. You may choose to not vote for me because of that alone and I respect that...but there it is. Choose."

On being a billionaire..."kiss my ass. I WORKED for that money. I pay taxes. I am charitable. I employ more people than all of you people combined. I dont just talk **** about jobs I make jobs. i don't just talk **** about helping people I help people. But you know what? If you REALLY want me to? You got it. I accept your judgement of me. I'm the bad guy. Hell...I'm old and I don't need to make any more money so as of TODAY, if this is really what you think I should do, I will **** down every business enterprise I own. I will sell off all my stocks. I will sell off all but my primary residence. You got it.

Now...YOU can build those 167 business. You can hire 20,000 people. Oh...and you can show us all how to do it the socialist way.

Ready? Go."
 
swing_voter said:


The communists at NPR review the debate.



Do you think Bloomberg knew he'd be savaged going in?

He's made 64 billion dollars in his life, starting from nothing. He's not dumb.
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I think he figured he'd get a bruising at most; I don't think he knew he'd get totally demolished to the point where it might pose an existential crisis to his campaign: if he did he's stupid for agreeing to go on, so if you do feel he was in the know, pick your poison.
 
swing_voter said:
The communists at NPR review the debate.

Do you think Bloomberg knew he'd be savaged going in?

He's made 64 billion dollars in his life, starting from nothing. He's not dumb.
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"Communists?" Is that the talking point Hannity is using these days?
 
Either he knew what to expect or he didn't. If he knew, then he was woefully unprepared, and that puts some question marks on him. If he didn't expect to be attacked, that shows a serious lack of political savvy, which also raise some questions. No matter how you slice and dice it, he looks bad.
 
Waddy said:
Either he knew what to expect or he didn't. If he knew, then he was woefully unprepared, and that puts some question marks on him. If he didn't expect to be attacked, that shows a serious lack of political savvy, which also raise some questions. No matter how you slice and dice it, he looks bad.
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Not that bad. Nobody will remember by the next time. I personally thought Amy K came out looking the worst.
 
Drawdown said:
Not that bad. Nobody will remember by the next time. I personally thought Amy K came out looking the worst.
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Lol. Noted for posterity and future reference.
 
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