Active shooter drills in schools. Good or bad?

TurtleDude said:

only those who are dishonest or ignorant claim an AR 15 ,as the term is used for the last 50 years, is an assault rifle.

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Wanna make a bet? I say Colt stands idle and silent when the term 'assault rifle' is used for the AR 15. I say that term sells 25% or more of those sexy-looking fashion statements.
There's no such thing as bad publicity in the fashion industry.

Luther said:

Hey guy, you're doing a very poor job at comparing getting hit by lighting vs a mass school shooting.

A school mass shooting is a huge emotional event


We don't remember an individual who got stuck by lighting(Rolling eyes) but we do remeber the name Sandy hook

*Sigh*

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You need to read the original thread. Should we continue with the drills at school.
In response I addressed the risk, which is minimal.
Stay on topic.

Luther said:

Ask yourself?

Do bad guys go shoot up a police station that is well armed?

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Only case I've heard of with armed security at a school where a mass shooting happened the security waited outside till the shots stopped and the shooter went down the road to get a soda.

Grand Mal said:

Only case I've heard of with armed security at a school where a mass shooting happened the security waited outside till the shots stopped and the shooter went down the road to get a soda.

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Your point?

Outlook said:

You need to read the original thread. Should we continue with the drills at school.
In response I addressed the risk, which is minimal.
Stay on topic.

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Who went and made you boss?(LOL)

Outlook said:

You need to read the original thread. Should we continue with the drills at school.
In response I addressed the risk, which is minimal.
Stay on topic.

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And my response to the original point of the thread is it is in vain to do Lock down drills with the way things are

Luther said:

In regards to someone in the school is going to be surprised and "Get it", then there is harm

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I don't know what that means.

Luther said:

Your point?

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Is obvious.

Josie said:

Not all libertarians are against all taxes.



No, it means opening the door once or twice.

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There are ways to protect school children. They are not "pretty or pleasing to the eye" and they cost "money'. What do you want safety or pretty?

Grand Mal said:

Only case I've heard of with armed security at a school where a mass shooting happened the security waited outside till the shots stopped and the shooter went down the road to get a soda.

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It happens...more often than folk would imagine.
Atlanta 2013
School shooting at Price Middle School in Atlanta, Georgia, wounds 14-year-old teen | ABC13 Houston | abc13.com | abc13.com

Maryland 2018
Maryland school shooting: Officer stops armed student who shot 2 others - CNN

Illinois 2017 Sometimes its a teacher
Teacher hailed as hero for taking down gunman at Illinois high school - CBS News

Or a vice principal who retrieved his own firearm and held the shooter at gunpoint
An Armed Principal Detained a Campus Gunman. But He’s Against Arming School Staff. - The New York Times

In this shooting a deputy responded to a shot fired, the shooter panicked, and shot himself before the deputy could shoot him
Colorado's school shooting -- over in 80 seconds - CNN

Another teacher stopping a shooting
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/teache...hool-shooter-jaylen-fryberg-credited-as-hero/

So it happens. But I agree that armed security at schools is not the answer. ASSUMING you could deny the school as a target of opportunity, how would you secure the FRONT of the school...bus stops, playgrounds, malls.

Some schools have pretty severe day to day violence from gang activity and in those schools metal detectors and guard are warranted...but not in all schools and not to stop mass shooters. Allowing teachers to exercise responsibly their Constitutional rights makes the most sense...and frankly...few people if anyone would even know it was going on.

Grand Mal said:

Only case I've heard of with armed security at a school where a mass shooting happened the security waited outside till the shots stopped and the shooter went down the road to get a soda.

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That's the exception, not the rule.

Grand Mal said:

Only case I've heard of with armed security at a school where a mass shooting happened the security waited outside till the shots stopped and the shooter went down the road to get a soda.

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They put him in prison recently.

swing_voter said:

They put him in prison recently.

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The Sheriff too? The local sheriff's office told the responding deputies to form a perimeter. Cops from the town found three deputies behind their cars and the shooter gone.

Grand Mal said:

Is obvious.

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I believe Columbine HS also had a armed security guard

It should be more obvious to you

swing_voter said:

Do you think schools should teach students, some as young as 5, what to do if there's an active shooter?

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Those drills get the children accustomed to living in a prison, and given our very high per capita rate of imprisonment, they are being conditioned as to how life is in this country.