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[W:62]Eskimo or Inuit - what is politically correct nowadays?
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Re: Eskimo or Inuit - what is politically correct nowadays?
I use the term Eskimo. I have no idea if its correct or offensive, but it seems accurate and ok with me.
I use the term Eskimo. I have no idea if its correct or offensive, but it seems accurate and ok with me.
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Re: Eskimo or Inuit - what is politically correct nowadays?
I'll go both. It looks like Eskimo is the broader term, and includes the Inuit and Yupik peoples, among others.
Are these people Americans like me, or are they sentenced to reservations? I'll call them anything that's considered correct, as long as there's not an expectation of me joining them in their racially segregated communities.
I'll go both. It looks like Eskimo is the broader term, and includes the Inuit and Yupik peoples, among others.
Are these people Americans like me, or are they sentenced to reservations? I'll call them anything that's considered correct, as long as there's not an expectation of me joining them in their racially segregated communities.
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Re: Eskimo or Inuit - what is politically correct nowadays?
Probably Aboriginals is the most globally neutral term. I personally dislike when people use "Indigenous People" because it isn't like they evolved from fish right there in that spot because that is where nature wanted them.
Probably Aboriginals is the most globally neutral term. I personally dislike when people use "Indigenous People" because it isn't like they evolved from fish right there in that spot because that is where nature wanted them.
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Re: Eskimo or Inuit - what is politically correct nowadays?
It can be complicated.
While Eskimo is a blanket term used to refer to indigenous people living in the arctic and Polar Regions of the world, Inuit is a term used to refer to original inhabitants of Canada and Greenland.
Eskimo continues to be used for indigenous people living in Alaska and Siberia while Canada government has passed an act in 1982 giving recognition to the term Inuit. This has been done as the original inhabitants considered the term Eskimo as offensive and pejorative as it means eaters of raw flesh.
Call original inhabitants of Alaska and Siberia as Eskimos, but call indigenous people in Canada and Greenland Inuit or Yupik as the case may be.
Eskimo remains the only all-inclusive term for original inhabitants from Siberia to Greenland.
Alaskans love the term Eskimos, but dislike being called Inuit.
Difference Between Eskimo and Inuit | Compare the Difference Between Similar Terms
I suppose a people should be called by the name they wish to be called. It seems that's pretty much happening with Inuit and Eskimo.
It can be complicated.
While Eskimo is a blanket term used to refer to indigenous people living in the arctic and Polar Regions of the world, Inuit is a term used to refer to original inhabitants of Canada and Greenland.
Eskimo continues to be used for indigenous people living in Alaska and Siberia while Canada government has passed an act in 1982 giving recognition to the term Inuit. This has been done as the original inhabitants considered the term Eskimo as offensive and pejorative as it means eaters of raw flesh.
Call original inhabitants of Alaska and Siberia as Eskimos, but call indigenous people in Canada and Greenland Inuit or Yupik as the case may be.
Eskimo remains the only all-inclusive term for original inhabitants from Siberia to Greenland.
Alaskans love the term Eskimos, but dislike being called Inuit.
Difference Between Eskimo and Inuit | Compare the Difference Between Similar Terms
I suppose a people should be called by the name they wish to be called. It seems that's pretty much happening with Inuit and Eskimo.
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Re: Eskimo or Inuit - what is politically correct nowadays?
Inuit if it applies.....While stationed and living in Alaska I was informed that "Eskimo" is not really the preferred label, and many even fin it offensive.
My family on both sides is from the Northern Scandinavian regions....Often referred to as "Lapland / or Laplanders"...this is considered a slur by the people who refer to themselves as Sami; I have found that when in doubt, simply ask.
Inuit if it applies.....While stationed and living in Alaska I was informed that "Eskimo" is not really the preferred label, and many even fin it offensive.
My family on both sides is from the Northern Scandinavian regions....Often referred to as "Lapland / or Laplanders"...this is considered a slur by the people who refer to themselves as Sami; I have found that when in doubt, simply ask.
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Re: Eskimo or Inuit - what is politically correct nowadays?
Inuit or Eskimo: Which name to use? | Alaska Native Language Center
Although the name "Eskimo" is commonly used in Alaska to refer to all Inuit and Yupik people of the world, this name is considered derogatory in many other places because it was given by non-Inuit people and was said to mean "eater of raw meat."
Linguists now believe that "Eskimo" is derived from an Ojibwa word meaning "to net snowshoes." However, the people of Canada and Greenland prefer other names. "Inuit," meaning "people," is used in most of Canada, and the language is called "Inuktitut" in eastern Canada although other local designations are used also. The Inuit people of Greenland refer to themselves as "Greenlanders" or "Kalaallit" in their language, which they call "Greenlandic" or "Kalaallisut."
Most Alaskans continue to accept the name "Eskimo," particularly because "Inuit" refers only to the Inupiat of northern Alaska, the Inuit of Canada, and the Kalaallit of Greenland, and it is not a word in the Yupik languages of Alaska and Siberia.
Some edjumakation:
Inuit or Eskimo: Which name to use? | Alaska Native Language Center
Although the name "Eskimo" is commonly used in Alaska to refer to all Inuit and Yupik people of the world, this name is considered derogatory in many other places because it was given by non-Inuit people and was said to mean "eater of raw meat."
Linguists now believe that "Eskimo" is derived from an Ojibwa word meaning "to net snowshoes." However, the people of Canada and Greenland prefer other names. "Inuit," meaning "people," is used in most of Canada, and the language is called "Inuktitut" in eastern Canada although other local designations are used also. The Inuit people of Greenland refer to themselves as "Greenlanders" or "Kalaallit" in their language, which they call "Greenlandic" or "Kalaallisut."
Most Alaskans continue to accept the name "Eskimo," particularly because "Inuit" refers only to the Inupiat of northern Alaska, the Inuit of Canada, and the Kalaallit of Greenland, and it is not a word in the Yupik languages of Alaska and Siberia.
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Re: Eskimo or Inuit - what is politically correct nowadays?
Both, but terms are not interchangeable - it's like asking do you use the terms Cherokee or Native American?
Both, but terms are not interchangeable - it's like asking do you use the terms Cherokee or Native American?
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I have never had it come up. In situations where I am not sure what term to use, I do what some consider political correctness, and I consider common ****ing courtesy and ask what term the relevant person prefers.
I have never had it come up. In situations where I am not sure what term to use, I do what some consider political correctness, and I consider common ****ing courtesy and ask what term the relevant person prefers.
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And I also know that some over-correct political correctors don't know!
I know!
And I also know that some over-correct political correctors don't know!
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Re: Eskimo or Inuit - what is politically correct nowadays?
May I ask what those asterix* [*pun intended] may stand for?
May I ask what those asterix* [*pun intended] may stand for?
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I think by some error there was the opinion that "Eskimo" was somehow insulting.
It has since come to light that this term is NOT insulting.
I think by some error there was the opinion that "Eskimo" was somehow insulting.
It has since come to light that this term is NOT insulting.
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Does it come up often for anyone where they have to refer to someone by their race? Crazy thought but rather than referring someone by their race, refer to them by their name.
Does it come up often for anyone where they have to refer to someone by their race? Crazy thought but rather than referring someone by their race, refer to them by their name.
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native alaskan
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Re: Eskimo or Inuit - what is politically correct nowadays?
There are Eskimos elsewhere - not in Alaska only.
There are Eskimos elsewhere - not in Alaska only.
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Re: Eskimo or Inuit - what is politically correct nowadays?
Some of us refer to these as “people“
Some of us refer to these as “people“
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Re: Eskimo or Inuit - what is politically correct nowadays?
Whatever they want to be called.
Whatever they want to be called.
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People should be called what they call themselves. The time of white people inventing names for populations is over.
People should be called what they call themselves. The time of white people inventing names for populations is over.
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Inuit is an ethnic group (not a race) and it is what they call themselves (it means, in their language, "the people"). There are other ethnic groups with their own names. Eskimo is a name invented by outsiders. It means, essentially, savages.
Inuit is an ethnic group (not a race) and it is what they call themselves (it means, in their language, "the people"). There are other ethnic groups with their own names. Eskimo is a name invented by outsiders. It means, essentially, savages.
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The Thule (tooley) people of Greenland were first ethnically identified by British archeologists. Later 18th century British archeologists started identifying all peoples of the far north, those that lived in or close to the Arctic circle as Inuit. More recent studies show a migration from the northwest North American arctic region about 11,000 years ago as accounting for linguistic and DNA similarities. Considering migration from Asia to the Americas has been believe to have commenced about 10k years ago by many who have studied the archeology of indigenous American peoples for decades and longer, this information puts a monkey wrench in those of populating the Americas. Adding to the issues with these early theories of when and how the Americas were populated, are numerous archeological finds in South America, as well as the North, of human presence dating back as far as 30k years ago, possibly older. And with traces of ghost species of the human genome.
But back to the question at hand. As greater DNA data is collected and studied, more distinct differences are showing among the many Inuit peoples, and not only in their previous known ranges of Greenland, Siberia, the Pacific Northwest of the Americas (Alaska and Canada), but northeastern Russia and northern Scandinavia. No longer is the migration out of the Pacific Northwest limited to a 1k years ago as previously surmised, but more likely a composite of Eurasian migrations well predating all know history. A history of migrations back and forth between Europe, Asia, the Americas and Pacifica. Worse from an archeological standpoint, data is now showing not all of the Eskimo tribes are related by dna to all inuit tribes, and vice versa. Also showing for both, major dna influences from India and the mideast, as well as Greece and early Turkey. Distinct genomes that by previous theories should never have appeared in the dna data of Inuit and Eskimo peoples.
Forget political correctness, forget generally accepted ethnic identifications, forget what you think you know. Life's human origins are far more complex than suspected. The Out of Africa theories are now finding disfavor, with more evidence showing the rise of a multitude, and fall, of multiple human species, contributing to what is known as modern man, with more than some indicating earlier population far older than those found to date in Africa, especially in China and Siberia. Species that appeared simultaneously and not, in various regions of the world, interbreeding, with many disappearing, showing only traces in our dna and genomes. Ghost species of humans. Most evident in the many peoples of the north. While climate may seem to counter the peopling of the most northern geographical regions, melting of the ice caps and northern tundra are revealing evidence these were once almost tropical regions for flora and fauna. We know nothing of ourselves let alone who and why we are.
The Garden of Eden may very well have been at the north pole. Please pass the hot sauce.
The Thule (tooley) people of Greenland were first ethnically identified by British archeologists. Later 18th century British archeologists started identifying all peoples of the far north, those that lived in or close to the Arctic circle as Inuit. More recent studies show a migration from the northwest North American arctic region about 11,000 years ago as accounting for linguistic and DNA similarities. Considering migration from Asia to the Americas has been believe to have commenced about 10k years ago by many who have studied the archeology of indigenous American peoples for decades and longer, this information puts a monkey wrench in those of populating the Americas. Adding to the issues with these early theories of when and how the Americas were populated, are numerous archeological finds in South America, as well as the North, of human presence dating back as far as 30k years ago, possibly older. And with traces of ghost species of the human genome.
But back to the question at hand. As greater DNA data is collected and studied, more distinct differences are showing among the many Inuit peoples, and not only in their previous known ranges of Greenland, Siberia, the Pacific Northwest of the Americas (Alaska and Canada), but northeastern Russia and northern Scandinavia. No longer is the migration out of the Pacific Northwest limited to a 1k years ago as previously surmised, but more likely a composite of Eurasian migrations well predating all know history. A history of migrations back and forth between Europe, Asia, the Americas and Pacifica. Worse from an archeological standpoint, data is now showing not all of the Eskimo tribes are related by dna to all inuit tribes, and vice versa. Also showing for both, major dna influences from India and the mideast, as well as Greece and early Turkey. Distinct genomes that by previous theories should never have appeared in the dna data of Inuit and Eskimo peoples.
Forget political correctness, forget generally accepted ethnic identifications, forget what you think you know. Life's human origins are far more complex than suspected. The Out of Africa theories are now finding disfavor, with more evidence showing the rise of a multitude, and fall, of multiple human species, contributing to what is known as modern man, with more than some indicating earlier population far older than those found to date in Africa, especially in China and Siberia. Species that appeared simultaneously and not, in various regions of the world, interbreeding, with many disappearing, showing only traces in our dna and genomes. Ghost species of humans. Most evident in the many peoples of the north. While climate may seem to counter the peopling of the most northern geographical regions, melting of the ice caps and northern tundra are revealing evidence these were once almost tropical regions for flora and fauna. We know nothing of ourselves let alone who and why we are.
The Garden of Eden may very well have been at the north pole. Please pass the hot sauce.
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And what do they want?
And what do they want?
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Re: Eskimo or Inuit - what is politically correct nowadays?
Now you really make me laugh, :lamo
You seem to have no idea how languages work.
Do you know how the Hungarians call themselves in their own language?
And a good example in this case is Germany.
In German it is called "Deutschland".
In French it is called "Allemagne".
In Danish it is called "Tyskland".
And all this is quite a normal linguistic feature and no reason to complain about.
You are mixing up names of persons like "John Smith" with names of countries etc.
Names of countries etc are a different matter entirely.
Now you really make me laugh, :lamo
You seem to have no idea how languages work.
Do you know how the Hungarians call themselves in their own language?
And a good example in this case is Germany.
In German it is called "Deutschland".
In French it is called "Allemagne".
In Danish it is called "Tyskland".
And all this is quite a normal linguistic feature and no reason to complain about.
You are mixing up names of persons like "John Smith" with names of countries etc.
Names of countries etc are a different matter entirely.
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Re: Eskimo or Inuit - what is politically correct nowadays?
Maybe this is too complicated? Seems simple to me. They call themselves "the people" in their language, which translates to Inuit. Thus they present themselves to others as the Inuit. There are other ethnicities, but we'll deal with this one for the moment. Now, outsiders gave them a derogatory name, Eskimos. This name means, basically, the Savages.
Do you believe they should be called The People, as they call themselves, or The Savages as others have named them?
That's not complicated, right? One doesn't need a grad degree in etymology to understand this. You really can't get it?
Maybe this is too complicated? Seems simple to me. They call themselves "the people" in their language, which translates to Inuit. Thus they present themselves to others as the Inuit. There are other ethnicities, but we'll deal with this one for the moment. Now, outsiders gave them a derogatory name, Eskimos. This name means, basically, the Savages.
Do you believe they should be called The People, as they call themselves, or The Savages as others have named them?
That's not complicated, right? One doesn't need a grad degree in etymology to understand this. You really can't get it?
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I don't know. My point is you call an ethnic group what they want to be called. It's not up to us, it's up to them.
And what do they want?
I don't know. My point is you call an ethnic group what they want to be called. It's not up to us, it's up to them.