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Is marriage outdated?

Is marriage outdated?


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Women and men have certain expectations when they legally tie the knot. Even couples who've dated awhile and verbalized or hinted they want monogamy seems like a reasonable request. I'm all for a little hand holding and smooching but I'm not too fond of PDA, or constantly kissing and cuddling. It simply makes me uncomfortable. I like my space in bed to fart and roll around in.

I think when two people who are very much in love, a lot of sacrifice is easier at first. But over time familiarity begins to breed contempt. Both partners all up in each others grill, day after day. And forget about sex ever being the same again after kids. After a certain amount of years, often a real solid bond develops that lasts.

Do we really need a legal document getting in between our relationships?


What could millennials kill off in 2019? Weddings and becoming parents | Salon.com

So, millennials are generally choosing to get married later in life, prioritizing financial security, career trajectory and home ownership before deciding to tie the knot — if they get married at all. The average age for marriage has increased to 27 for women and 29 for men (personally, both numbers seem low) — a six-year increase from 1963, when the average ages were 21 and 23, respectively.

But also, only two out of five millennials were married in 2015, whereas two in three adults were married in 1980. Culturally, marriage isn't the be-all end-all for adults anymore, and women in particular are increasingly untangling marriage from their own self-worth.

We are hearing scores of stories about how even two-parent households are forced to make challenging decisions about their family's future. Even if both parents want to work, child care can quickly outpace one earner's salary. Most single parents have even fewer options and generally have to rely on family members to pitch in.

While low-income families can sometimes get financial help, that's not something families can rely on now. "Spending on assistance through various federal programs is at a 12-year low. Today just 15 percent of eligible children are served by federal subsidies," Elle reported. "The Child Care and Development Block Grant, the main source of this kind of support, currently serves the smallest number of children since 1998; 364,000 were dropped from its register between 2006 and 2014. And subsidies fail to reach anyone living much above the poverty line."

The economics of having children can be daunting for all millennials, but especially for women, because of the implications for their personal financial security. There's been a lot of attention — though not action — paid to the gender pay gap, but recent data suggests that it's largely morphed into the motherhood pay gap. According to the New York Times, women who are unmarried and without children earn much closer to what men do. The Times pointed to many reasons for this, but it ultimately comes down to how unequal the division of labor is in many households, or at least that employers still assume that will be the case.

If we lived in an equal society, where good jobs, affordable housing, access to quality education, health care, child care were all seen as rights and not luxuries, it's not far-fetched to surmise that marriage and parenting statistics might shift. It's not a sure-fire fix, however; birth rates are down all over the world as people in general are choosing to have fewer children, waiting longer to do so, and many can't configure having a thriving career with fewer at all. Denmark, with its robust social welfare program, also has the greatest proportion of babies born through in vitro fertilization, indicating in part that women are able making active choices about their reproductive lives irrespective of age and life partner status. They're not being deterred by surging child care costs, either; couples spend less than 11 percent of their income on child care costs, and that drops to less than three percent for single parents. (Compare that to the U.S., where two-parent households pay around 25 percent of their income for childcare, and single parents 52 percent.)

Other factors make millennials feel a little more bleak about the prospects of bringing kids into a culture of violence and an economy that operates on a work-to-survive model for the majority, to say nothing of looming climate catastrophe. But if the U.S. actually cared about the family unit as much as Republicans claim to, perhaps they could start by enacting policies that prioritize the livelihoods of women and children. They certainly have a long way to go.
 
Religious people have lots of babies. They also get married and it makes sense for them.
 
I married my wife 6 months after I met her, both of us teenagers and now we've been married for nearly a decade and a half.

Marriage is absolutely not outdated but it's also not for everyone. I love the closeness and security of the commitment and we don't bust each other's balls, we just try to enjoy life together. It's a mutually beneficial commitment. If marriage isn't for you, don't get married, but there's still a lot of people it makes sense for.
 
I spent 25 years with the woman I loved we have three children two adults o e sixteen year old daughter.

She was eight when her mom died and it's just been her I and I since then.

We needed no price of paper, although it would have simplified things legally as she was dying...
 
Marriage the ultimate commitment two people can make to each other it should not be treated so flippantly

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Women and men have certain expectations when they legally tie the knot. Even couples who've dated awhile and verbalized or hinted they want monogamy seems like a reasonable request. I'm all for a little hand holding and smooching but I'm not too fond of PDA, or constantly kissing and cuddling. It simply makes me uncomfortable. I like my space in bed to fart and roll around in.

I think when two people who are very much in love, a lot of sacrifice is easier at first. But over time familiarity begins to breed contempt. Both partners all up in each others grill, day after day. And forget about sex ever being the same again after kids. After a certain amount of years, often a real solid bond develops that lasts.

Do we really need a legal document getting in between our relationships?


What could millennials kill off in 2019? Weddings and becoming parents | Salon.com

As a millennial in his early 30s, I never had the burning need to get married nor invested it with much importance, particularly as I prefer a polyamourous lifestyle; it's conceivable if Ms. Right came along that might well change, but for now, it's not remotely any kind of priority or even desire. Personally I don't think marriage as an institution or social construct is outdated, I just don't think it's necessarily for everyone.
 
As a millennial in his early 30s, I never had the burning need to get married nor invested it with much importance, particularly as I prefer a polyamourous lifestyle; it's conceivable if Ms. Right came along that might well change, but for now, it's not remotely any kind of priority or even desire. Personally I don't think marriage as an institution or social construct is outdated, I just don't think it's necessarily for everyone.
Thats a fair assessment

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Women and men have certain expectations when they legally tie the knot. Even couples who've dated awhile and verbalized or hinted they want monogamy seems like a reasonable request. I'm all for a little hand holding and smooching but I'm not too fond of PDA, or constantly kissing and cuddling. It simply makes me uncomfortable. I like my space in bed to fart and roll around in.

I think when two people who are very much in love, a lot of sacrifice is easier at first. But over time familiarity begins to breed contempt. Both partners all up in each others grill, day after day. And forget about sex ever being the same again after kids. After a certain amount of years, often a real solid bond develops that lasts.

Do we really need a legal document getting in between our relationships?


What could millennials kill off in 2019? Weddings and becoming parents | Salon.com

Ask the children if they would prefer to have their parents married.

Y’know... the children. What Leftists seem to be so concerned about... unless the child is in the womb that is.
 
Women and men have certain expectations when they legally tie the knot. Even couples who've dated awhile and verbalized or hinted they want monogamy seems like a reasonable request. I'm all for a little hand holding and smooching but I'm not too fond of PDA, or constantly kissing and cuddling. It simply makes me uncomfortable. I like my space in bed to fart and roll around in.

I think when two people who are very much in love, a lot of sacrifice is easier at first. But over time familiarity begins to breed contempt. Both partners all up in each others grill, day after day. And forget about sex ever being the same again after kids. After a certain amount of years, often a real solid bond develops that lasts.

Do we really need a legal document getting in between our relationships?


What could millennials kill off in 2019? Weddings and becoming parents | Salon.com

The Left has been working to weaken families and kill off marriage for 50 years.

They have made a lot of "progress".
 
Nah, it's not outdated. I'm glad that my parents did it and that I did. It's not for everyone, but what is besides eating, drinking, and complaining?
 
I don't think it is outdated but it has changed a great deal. When I was young a woman having a baby out of wedlock was rare. Now a great many women do. Unfortunately after that occurs they are much less likely to find a mate.
 
I don't think it is outdated but it has changed a great deal. When I was young a woman having a baby out of wedlock was rare. Now a great many women do. Unfortunately after that occurs they are much less likely to find a mate.

Yeah...um....not true at all.

That comment is outdated as hell. Rather pathetic too.
 
The Left has been working to weaken families and kill off marriage for 50 years.

They have made a lot of "progress".

Please. STOP.

You embarrass yourself, and all humans with crap like this.
 
Please. STOP.

You embarrass yourself, and all humans with crap like this.

No, you embarrass yourself by betraying that you dont know what is going on, and then you compound the problem by harassing someone who does.

Please. STOP.
 
I would not advise a young man to get married these days. The courts are stacked against him. And I've been married to the same woman for nearly 50 years. I've just seen too many men get financially and emotionally destroyed when marriages break up. I don't know when or how "family" court got soooo one sided, but it happened. And now divorce is a gold mine for lawyers.

A friend of the family was getting a divorce after 20 years. Her attorney asked her if he ever hit her. Then the attorney said, you need to say he hit you. The soon to be ex-wife refused. Good on her. Divorce can be a nasty business, especially if custody is involved.

No need to get married these days. Lots of reasons not to.
 
The Left has been working to weaken families and kill off marriage for 50 years.

They have made a lot of "progress".

Yes they have
 
Yes they have

I got mocked for saying that, did you notice?

It is sometime hard to know what to do with the people who act profoundly ignorant......are they that dim?....are they lying, people are colossal liars now, most importantly they lie about even the big things...

As I wait to see if this bug out of china gets me I feel sad.....I have been talking about these thing since the mid seventies, I was for instance talking about the thinning social glue back then with my friends....almost no one else ever seemed to notice....and then when I would talk about it I would get ignored and called names....and yet I was so often right.

Based upon what I have heard her say I feel much like Camilla Paglia..."Look, I was talking about this problem 25 years ago...I warned everybody.....not enough listened".
 
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I got mocked for saying that, did you notice?

It is sometime hard to know what to do with the people who act profoundly ignorant......are they that dim?....are they lying, people are colossal liars now, most importantly they lie about even the big things...

Yes, I noticed

It's a public forum and we have to have thick skin

But, I assume they will not want to debate you
 
Yes, I noticed

It's a public forum and we have to have thick skin

But, I assume they will not want to debate you

Oh no, almost never do they engage with a well educated heretic like me. Even now as America has slipped this much and we are looking down the throat of a pandemic with a medical system that collapses instantly if China stops putting things on boats ( The idiocy of allowing the supply chain to move to China I was talking about by 1987), I still get mostly low quality insults from people who act as nitwits. People are still refusing to wake up, they are still refusing to be responsible, and they are still mostly screwing around like noting bad will happen to them if they spend their lives screwing around.


It is a really sad story.
 
Oh no, almost never do they engage with a well educated heretic like me. Even now as America has slipped this much and we are looking down the throat of a pandemic with a medical system that collapses instantly if China stops putting things on boats ( The idiocy of allowing the supply chain to move to China I was talking about by 1987), I still get mostly low quality insults from people who act as nitwits. People are still refusing to wake up, they are still refusing to be responsible, and they are still mostly screwing around like noting bad will happen to them if they spend their lives screwing around.


It is a really sad story.

Well, Me and you pretty much agree on whats going on.

I think what separates us is you still have faith in our broken political system, starting with our very citizenry where I do not.

Does that sound about right?
 
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