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  • I don't want the gov't controlling much of anything

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  • long wait times and rationing.. we could live w/ that

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  • no, we cannot and should not live with that

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    Re: What are your views RE government control of healthcare?

    Quote Originally Posted by narrowroad View Post
    so????????????
    Government run health care insurance isn't socialism. Socialism starts with government control of the means of production and goes on from there.
    Many Americans believe lies told to them by people with a stake in the system as it is.
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    Re: What are your views RE government control of healthcare?

    Quote Originally Posted by narrowroad View Post
    thanks to Trump

    b4, vets were dying... long wait times... corrupt staff
    Trump holds vets in contempt.
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    Re: What are your views RE government control of healthcare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Government run health care insurance isn't socialism. Socialism starts with government control of the means of production and goes on from there.
    Many Americans believe lies told to them by people with a stake in the system as it is.
    so you don't think that govt taking over healthcare is the at least the beginnings of socialism?

    well, i guess fake news can fool some of the people some of the time

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    Re: What are your views RE government control of healthcare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Trump holds vets in contempt.
    you have heard him say that?

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    Re: What are your views RE government control of healthcare?

    Quote Originally Posted by narrowroad View Post
    What are your views RE government control of healthcare?
    There is a reason we spend more on healthcare in America than anywhere else and we are the only modern country that lets private insurance companies dominate their healthcare industry...

    Because it is a crap idea to let a paper pusher WHO DOES NOT PREFORM A HEALTH CARE RELATED FUNCTION, take 30% off the top of every dollar spent on healthcare..

    Insurance companies are parasites and all government controls medicine does is elimate them from the picture..





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    Re: What are your views RE government control of healthcare?

    Quote Originally Posted by narrowroad View Post
    I have heard stories from countries that do it

    if you want that crap (long wait times/rationing.. low R and D/innovations, etc..), move to one of those countries. I wish the socialists would stop being hypocrites and just DO THAT already

    instead of trying to ruin this country with their half-baked, ignorant ideas... (1/10000th baked actually)
    That is not what happens in countries with socialized medicine any more than it happens here... we just pay 4x more for it..




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    Re: What are your views RE government control of healthcare?

    Quote Originally Posted by ArtemisBarca View Post
    There is a reason we spend more on healthcare in America than anywhere else and we are the only modern country that lets private insurance companies dominate their healthcare industry...

    Because it is a crap idea to let a paper pusher WHO DOES NOT PREFORM A HEALTH CARE RELATED FUNCTION, take 30% off the top of every dollar spent on healthcare..

    Insurance companies are parasites and all government controls medicine does is elimate them from the picture..





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    no, what would happen is that the govt would itself become a bigger parasite (than ins companies)

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    Re: What are your views RE government control of healthcare?

    Quote Originally Posted by narrowroad View Post
    I have heard stories from countries that do it

    if you want that crap (long wait times/rationing.. low R and D/innovations, etc..), move to one of those countries. I wish the socialists would stop being hypocrites and just DO THAT already

    instead of trying to ruin this country with their half-baked, ignorant ideas... (1/10000th baked actually)
    When you “hear” these stories (inevitably on some right wing talk radio show or Fox), do you ever stop to notice that there are never any statistics in them. No discussion of costs.

    No admission of the fact that this approach is universally popular in every country that has it.

    Instead, you get ancedotes from right wing blogs and UK tabloids.

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    Re: What are your views RE government control of healthcare?

    The government will screw up a national health care system. Bills won't get paid, patients will be left unattended on gurneys in the hallways.

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    Re: What are your views RE government control of healthcare?

    Quote Originally Posted by narrowroad View Post
    thanks to Trump

    b4, vets were dying... long wait times... corrupt staff
    I have never encountered as such where I go, and I have been going there since 2005. You can't name me of one health operation that has not had it's problems.
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