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[W:165] Bernie supporters: If Bernie doesn't win the nomination....

If Bernie doesn't win the nomination, will you vote for the candidate that does?

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Cardinal said:
I don't understand your post.
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Um, okay.

To put it more concisely: How do you think Bernie could honestly throw his support behind Bloomberg? I mean beyond simply saying 'Okay, support Bloomberg.'
 
Wry Catcher said:
At this point I will never vote for Sanders nor Warren, as they cannot carry enough states to win;

Mayor Pete will not get the vote of Social Conservatives, so he's not on my list for the top of the ticket;

Biden has been harmed and too many people believe (I know, that is incredible) trump, so he is out;

Sen. Amy will carry the heartland, yet I would like to see her remain in the Senate because we need to get Moscow Mitch to have his office in a broom closet if the D's control the Senate.

Thus, now that Our Primary is month away, I will cast my vote for Bloomberg. Bloomberg likely knows how many skeleton's are in trump's closet, and won't be bullied by trump. In fact the only thing trump has going for him is his dastardly use of Character Assassinations. I firmly believe that trump is vulnerable, he is to too arrogant, too full of hate, and not mentally fit to have the power of the office of POTUS.

Four more years of trump will bring more chaos, more lies and more lives destroyed and the destruction of the mission statement left to our people and our leaders in the Preamble:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
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Some people care more about the e-peen contest than policy i guess... i for one dont need cops walking around and harassing people so they can dig into their pants. Bloomberg will not establish justice nor domestic tranquility.
 
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Kreton said:
And now your broken divisive rhetoric has devolved into name calling.
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The Democratic party has always been divisive. Pretending otherwise is what lead to Trump winning in 2016. The party that lost an election to Donald Trump doesn't get to decide on what is, and what isn't politically savvy or divisive.
 
CMPancake said:
The Democratic party has always been divisive. Pretending otherwise is what lead to Trump winning in 2016. The party that lost an election to Donald Trump doesn't get to decide on what is, and what isn't politically savvy or divisive.
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Show me that political party that has or had any chance at putting a president in office that isn't the Dem or Rep candidate.
 
Wry Catcher said:
Thus, now that Our Primary is month away, I will cast my vote for Bloomberg. Bloomberg likely knows how many skeleton's are in trump's closet, and won't be bullied by trump. In fact the only thing trump has going for him is his dastardly use of Character Assassinations. I firmly believe that trump is vulnerable, he is to too arrogant, too full of hate, and not mentally fit to have the power of the office of POTUS.
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I'm sure Bloomberg knows many of Trump's skeletons (which will damage Trump exactly 0%), and I'm sure Trump knows all of his. After all, they were buddies till recently.

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Dans La Lune said:
Um, okay.

To put it more concisely: How do you think Bernie could honestly throw his support behind Bloomberg? I mean beyond simply saying 'Okay, support Bloomberg.'
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Did I say he would?
 
Dans La Lune said:
I'm sure Bloomberg knows many of Trump's skeletons (which will damage Trump exactly 0%), and I'm sure Trump knows all of his. After all, they were buddies till recently.

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Yeah im not buying the more skeletons will end Trump narrative.
 
I find it both interesting and funny how SkyChief votes no; someone who never was a Bernie supporter in the first place, and per all his polling involvement/posting history I've seen is probably a Trumpster troll.

Guess he's hoping to stoke divisiveness?
 
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Dans La Lune said:
I’m not sure how Bernie supporters could support Bloomberg and maintain any legitimacy. Biden, yes. Buttigieg, yes. Bloomberg? Probably a bridge too far.
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Then Bernie supporters must want Trump over Bloomberg....sounds like sour grapes to me. :roll: A non-Democratic vote in the 2020 election, is a vote for Trump, plain and simple.

Anyone who votes for Trump in 2020 is happy with racism, removal of women's rights, removal of the rights of people of color, destroying the public lands and environment, polluting waterways and air, killing wildlife and people, and autocracy in America.
 
CMPancake said:
The left was always divided. I'm personally tired of being told to stomach my ideals and scruples for the sake of empowering meddling Neoliberals.
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Wrong. :) We were united in 2008, but your ilk split us. ;)

Bernie Sanders will never be President of the United States.
 
Phys251 said:
Wrong. :) We were united in 2008, but your ilk split us. ;)

Bernie Sanders will never be President of the United States.
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I don't believe he does either. I am convinced there is a focused effort by Trumpists to play up this "only this candidate" rhetoric. They did it with Tulsi, and now they are doing it with pro and anti Bernie crap. If half the left ONLY votes for Bernie and the other half will never vote for Bernie it ensures a 2020 Trump victory.
 
Phys251 said:
Wrong. :) We were united in 2008, but your ilk split us. ;)

Bernie Sanders will never be President of the United States.
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And look at where that got us, a massively unpopular healthcare bill, a Republican-controlled Supreme Court, bailouts to banks and auto industries while the rest of America suffered, a destabilized Northern Africa, and still being in two wars that we were promised that we would have withdrawn from.

We weren't united, the left was lied to by the Democrats in order to maintain the status quo.

Kreton said:
I don't believe he does either. I am convinced there is a focused effort by Trumpists to play up this "only this candidate" rhetoric. They did it with Tulsi, and now they are doing it with pro and anti Bernie crap. If half the left ONLY votes for Bernie and the other half will never vote for Bernie it ensures a 2020 Trump victory.
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If you truly believe that this is the case, then you have an obligation to vote Bernie Sanders. The onus isn't on me to vote (again) for a candidate that doesn't represent my values.
 
Old 'N Chill said:
Then Bernie supporters must want Trump over Bloomberg....sounds like sour grapes to me. :roll: A non-Democratic vote in the 2020 election, is a vote for Trump, plain and simple.

Anyone who votes for Trump in 2020 is happy with racism, removal of women's rights, removal of the rights of people of color, destroying the public lands and environment, polluting waterways and air, killing wildlife and people, and autocracy in America.
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Bloomberg is a shill for Xi and the Chinese Communist Party; by far the two greatest threats to American hegemony in the world:



He is probably the only Democrat I couldn't vote for vs Trump: anyone who ardently and passionately defends Xi as not being a dictator despite him presiding over multiple genocides, a crushing and oppressive surveillance state, blanket censorship, and brutal suppression in HK, Tibet and Xinjiang, is clearly compromised in some capacity, or utterly disconnected from reality; either way, they're not fit for the presidency, and if I must choose a foreign puppet for president, I would rather it not belong to our greatest rival.
 
CMPancake said:
And look at where that got us, a massively unpopular healthcare bill,
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Which is popular now. But you and your ilk want to throw that out in favor of a wildly unpopular transition to single-payer.

a Republican-controlled Supreme Court,
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Quit whining about that until you can come around to Blue No Matter Who.

bailouts to banks and auto industries
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Which are repaid in full.

while the rest of America suffered, a destabilized Northern Africa,
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If the West had sufficiently intervened during the Arab Spring, many countries beside Tunisia might have transitioned to democracy by now.

and still being in two wars that we were promised that we would have withdrawn from.
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A problem, yes. See how easy that was for me to admit? Now let's hear all the problems of YOUR candidate. Bet you can't name one significant problem, can you? ;)

We weren't united, the left was lied to by the Democrats in order to maintain the status quo.
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Your ilk drove us apart. Your ilk believes that they have all the answers, which come from His Most Royal Highness, Bernard Sanders, and that anyone who doesn't follow him is an "outsider." Your ilk has slurs for these "outsiders": "corporatist," "milquetoast," "neoliberal," "conservadem," "Republican lite," etc.

In this regard you people are no different from Trump supporters. None. :)

If you truly believe that this is the case, then you have an obligation to vote Bernie Sanders. The onus isn't on me to vote (again) for a candidate that doesn't represent my values.
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Your values are to throw your vote away unless you get your way. That kind of childish strategy is exactly what Trump wants.
 
CMPancake said:
And look at where that got us, a massively unpopular healthcare bill, a Republican-controlled Supreme Court, bailouts to banks and auto industries while the rest of America suffered, a destabilized Northern Africa, and still being in two wars that we were promised that we would have withdrawn from.

We weren't united, the left was lied to by the Democrats in order to maintain the status quo.



If you truly believe that this is the case, then you have an obligation to vote Bernie Sanders. The onus isn't on me to vote (again) for a candidate that doesn't represent my values.
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Then vote for Trump when Bernie is out of it if you really think Trump is better for America than the dem nominee.
 
Phys251 said:
Which is popular now. But you and your ilk want to throw that out in favor of a wildly unpopular transition to single-payer.



Quit whining about that until you can come around to Blue No Matter Who.



Which are repaid in full.



If the West had sufficiently intervened during the Arab Spring, many countries beside Tunisia might have transitioned to democracy by now.



A problem, yes. See how easy that was for me to admit? Now let's hear all the problems of YOUR candidate. Bet you can't name one significant problem, can you? ;)



Your ilk drove us apart. Your ilk believes that they have all the answers, which come from His Most Royal Highness, Bernard Sanders, and that anyone who doesn't follow him is an "outsider." Your ilk has slurs for these "outsiders": "corporatist," "milquetoast," "neoliberal," "conservadem," "Republican lite," etc.

In this regard you people are no different from Trump supporters. None. :)



Your values are to throw your vote away unless you get your way. That kind of childish strategy is exactly what Trump wants.
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Funny how this guy whines about right wing courts while helping them stay in power.
 
Moot said:
Bernie supporters: If Bernie doesn't win the democrat nomination will you vote for the candidate that does?
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Almost surely.

There would have to be some really massive ****ery by other candidate(s) or the democratic party to make me vote for a third party or not vote, because there is no way in hell I'll vote for Trump, and I want him to lose this presidential election.
 
Kreton said:
Then vote for Trump when Bernie is out of it if you really think Trump is better for America than the dem nominee.
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I don't think Trump is better than a Democratic nominee, I think both have been extremely detrimental to America.
 
Kreton said:
You absolutely sound like a Trump loyalist trying to push socialism and divide the left in some attempt at helping Trump.
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No he doesn't. He sounds like a Bernie supporter and he has no intention of voluntarily settling for second best. I know exactly where he is coming from and I'll just repeat what I've said a few years ago.


Serenity said:
Neither. I do not vote for the "lesser of two evils". People should vote with their conscience. I'd rather vote for something I want and not get it than vote for something I don't want and get it. I can't accept that voting for your best choice is a waste. Why should I roll over and settle for second best. The only way I don't waste my vote is to vote for who best represents my own views. If I vote for someone else's idea of what represents them and ignore mine then I have silenced my own ideals.


I'm not going to vote for the likely winner simply because they will probably win. How is that democracy? When do I get to voice my opinion? If people keep voting for the lesser of two evils then we will always have evil, and we will always have less.
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joko104 said:
Polls now show Bloomberg has moved from 4th to 3rd place. Your believing there actually will be a legitimate Democratic primary already ended in how the Democrats in Congress torpedoes all the candidates for the first primaries and how they also corrupted the Iowa caucus by doing so. It has already been decided by the powers-that-be. It will be Bloomberg. He already bought the nomination. People and organizations usually can be bought cheap.
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Bloomberg is currently 2nd not 3rd, though 2,3 & 4 are neck & neck:

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JOE BIDEN
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If there is one candidate Bernie supporters will never support it's Bloomberg. Bloomberg
therefore presents a Trump landslide victory
 
bomberfox said:
Some people care more about the e-peen contest than policy i guess... i for one dont need cops walking around and harassing people so they can dig into their pants. Bloomberg will not establish justice nor domestic tranquility.
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I disagree. Stop and Frisk was a response to violent crime in NYC***. No matter what anyone thinks, profiling existed long before Stop and Frisk and continues today. To try and pin a racism target on Bloomberg is invalid, it is the same argument now being used to discredit Mayor Buttigieg by the Republicans; and, a sign that the Right is scared that the African American's will upset their desire to create a one party system in America.

***A stop-and-frisk refers to a brief non-intrusive police stop of a suspect. The Fourth Amendment requires that before stopping the suspect, the police must have a reasonable suspicion that a crime has been, is being, or is about to be committed by the suspect.
 
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