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what is primary reason you are conservative or liberal?

what is primary reason you are conservative or liberal?

  • it makes sense

    Votes: 41 62.1%
  • suits my lifestyle

    Votes: 3 4.5%
  • suits my religion

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • suits my lack of religion

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • i was raised this way

    Votes: 1 1.5%
  • i was not raised this way

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • other

    Votes: 21 31.8%

  • Total voters
    66
  • Poll closed .
++ Check the emoluments clause. Remember Trump’s claim that he can do anything. Remember his insults of blacks, Mexicans, immigrants, and women. Remember him not separating himself from his businesses. Remember Trump U and Trump Foundation, the Central Park Five, remember his saying a judge couldn’t be objective because of his Mexican ancestry. Is objecting to that lunacy? You apparently would have loved Mussolini. The spirit and the letter of the Constitution contradict your view. Do you really think Trump gives a **** about the Constitution?
Now, THAT'S some great slobbersling!! Well done. I hope you didn't get too much on your computer.
 
what is primary reason you are conservative or liberal?

I favor those principles our founding fathers immortalized in the Constitution and Bill of Rights because I believe individual freedoms are better than government controls and mandates.
 
So you think women, blacks, and other minorities don't benefit from social liberalism and we should go back to the 1800s?
I think I need a definition of what you mean. I believe we all have that now...here let's see. You think of something you want to do like for work ( me I chose excavation back in 2006), next take some time write up a business plan this should include what you need to get your company up and running ( I did not do this and wish I had), next prioritize what you need in what order (for me it was money for license, bond insurance and my own excavator) now I did not want to be in debt so I stayed working with the company I was with and for 1 year saved every penny I could then I purchase what I needed to tart my company,, now that you legal and ready to go, I would start by going to business like yours introductions asking if they could send extra work your way, advertising adding certifications.then when you get work bust your but to do the best job you can, be willing to work 20 hours a day if needed or to loose money on a job but still finish. Keep your word, keep contracts repeat what your doing for how much, show up 10 min early be willing to stay late, work hard and you will succerd. Saying anything else is just a sorry way of you tring to justify not going no where in life.. ( yes I did it on my own buying used trucks and tools and equipment. Hell 14 years later that's still what I but...bit I did it no bank helped me or parents with money..I busted my but off and achieved my goal and reap the rewards.) Socialism is taking money from me to give to people like you who has chose to make excuses instead of taking actions. If you want something in life work for it

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and much more credible
I thought that tk, I was saying well Bernie will screw us but at least he lets us know he plans on screwing us..but I have recently learned he has a whole crap ton of lies and corruption he's involved with...I wi still agree I feel he the one who is stating what he wants and what he needs to get there, and says yes I will steal from all workers to achieve it.( Which in my opinion is easy to say when you already made your money and don't need to keep it today.....some of us are trying to get to be in a similar boat but will never be able to if you steal that chance away in which case I truelly believe there wealth should go to it's and they can get a 30000 check to live on like everyone else give up all there luxerys and truelly be equal if that is what you want to spew.) See what people don't realize os this is not going to hurt the rich but will screw everyone else. They alread made there money, they can lower there wage to whatever and live the samr way till they die. Plus how many will continue to work when 70 of there wage is taken. At that point I'm out send me a check to I refuse to do it again i did my time in 2009/2012.

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Makes sense, suits my lifestyle, suits my religion, suits my moral code.
See I believe God talked about work and spending wisely...stating if someone needs help and you can give, then give what you can even if it's more. But I don't see where he says support lazy people who. Refuse to get a job to support themselves and insists they have the right to receive the same as those who do. There is work out there you may not like it but you can live doing ot, hell any more if you got a phone and can walk...you can work. Stop with excuses get up stand on your own two feet and work to achieve the life you want and if your to lazy the. Accept what you are getting with effort you've put in...but stay the hell out of my wallet

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I got this information from a website called I Side With, which shows where candidates are on the political compass based on their public statements.
Well then how is any of the democratic leaders on a scale they lie and change the statements all the time. For every belief stated today there is film yesterday stateing the opposite..they need a slot for....tell you what you want to hear to get your vote but will never fallow threw because I'm about me and my wealth not any of you. Oh but I'll pride every 4 years..

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what is primary reason you are conservative or liberal?

Kind of narrow choices, don't you think?
 
See I believe God talked about work and spending wisely, stating if someone needs help and you can give, then give what you can even if it's more. But I don't see where he says support lazy people who refuse to get a job to support themselves and insists they have the right to receive the same as those who do.

The Bible does not say we should tell those who refuse to work, "Sorry, you need to get a job instead of my money." It says the opposite. Telling people they should get jobs so that you will not have to give them anything violates several commandments.
 
Now, THAT'S some great slobbersling!! Well done. I hope you didn't get too much on your computer.

Do me the courtesy of correcting whatever I said that was wrong about Trump and dishonesty.
 
See I believe God talked about work and spending wisely...stating if someone needs help and you can give, then give what you can even if it's more. But I don't see where he says support lazy people who. Refuse to get a job to support themselves and insists they have the right to receive the same as those who do. There is work out there you may not like it but you can live doing ot, hell any more if you got a phone and can walk...you can work. Stop with excuses get up stand on your own two feet and work to achieve the life you want and if your to lazy the. Accept what you are getting with effort you've put in...but stay the hell out of my wallet

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Do you think there people out there who have no merit whatsoever? Yes, I know there are lazy people and people who play the system... people who rob, cheat, and steal and think that society "owes them". But is there anyone who is totally without merit? People get to where they find themselves for a lot of reasons. It could be a single bad decision they made along the way... or it could be that nobody ever treated them as though they had merit, and so they came to believe it for themselves.

I think everyone has some special talent or ability... no matter what their station in life and no matter how hidden that talent and ability is. Just because they've never had a chance to use their talent doesn't mean they ought to be consigned to the garbage heap or fall between the cracks, does it? I don't know... call me naive, but I think everyone out there has chance to make a full contribution to society if we could just find a way of unlocking their talents. It's investing in people... making sure they have access to all the education their minds can absorb, making sure they're protected - not only from having some invader sweep in and subjugate them, but also from ill health, whether from some chronic disease or disability they happened to be born with... or from drinking unsafe water or breathing unclean air. I think our birthright - our inalienable right as human beings - is to be treated as equals and to have the same opportunities to pursue the full blessings of life, liberty, and happiness. I don't think we should necessarily be guaranteed those things... but I do think we all should be given the opportunity to pursue them.

To me, it should never be about hand outs... but it should always - unquestionably - be about doing whatever it takes to give someone a hand up.
 
Do me the courtesy of correcting whatever I said that was wrong about Trump and dishonesty.

AS the old saying goes: "you can always tell a Liberal, but you can't tell them much." :cool:
 
AS the old saying goes: "you can always tell a Liberal, but you can't tell them much." :cool:

Awww... I am not asking for much, just a wee bit on the University or Foundation.
 
I think I need a definition of what you mean. I believe we all have that now...here let's see. You think of something you want to do like for work ( me I chose excavation back in 2006), next take some time write up a business plan this should include what you need to get your company up and running ( I did not do this and wish I had), next prioritize what you need in what order (for me it was money for license, bond insurance and my own excavator) now I did not want to be in debt so I stayed working with the company I was with and for 1 year saved every penny I could then I purchase what I needed to tart my company,, now that you legal and ready to go, I would start by going to business like yours introductions asking if they could send extra work your way, advertising adding certifications.then when you get work bust your but to do the best job you can, be willing to work 20 hours a day if needed or to loose money on a job but still finish. Keep your word, keep contracts repeat what your doing for how much, show up 10 min early be willing to stay late, work hard and you will succerd. Saying anything else is just a sorry way of you tring to justify not going no where in life.. ( yes I did it on my own buying used trucks and tools and equipment. Hell 14 years later that's still what I but...bit I did it no bank helped me or parents with money..I busted my but off and achieved my goal and reap the rewards.) Socialism is taking money from me to give to people like you who has chose to make excuses instead of taking actions. If you want something in life work for it

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Sooo you seem to be saying that Social Security, Medicare, the ACA, worker protections, etc., should all be eliminated as we all start businesses and work them completely by ourselves. In what country, at what time in history has that ever worked?
 
You just described Republicans and said absolutely nothing about theft.

Uh huh. I know you are but what am I?

Taking something that isn’t yours is theft. Excuses are just that.
 
Uh huh. I know you are but what am I?

Taking something that isn’t yours is theft. Excuses are just that.

When have Democrats ever taken something from you that is not yours?
 
Ah, yes; liberal/progressive/socialist Utopia. :roll:

Yeah, it's called for the people and not for corporate america and the super wealthy. Is there something wrong with our government doing something for us, the people?
 
Really, you didn’t incorporate, use the interstate, have police protection, etc.

That’s not government help anymore than buying a Big Mac is help from McDonalds.
 
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