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Dem voters only - how happy would you be with a Bernie nomination?

Dem voters only - how happy would you be with Bernie as the nominee?

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Middleground said:
Well said. And it's not like Bernie's theories and policies are unproven. He's just trying to bring a little Sweden, Norway and Canada into the United States.
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Medicare for All is totally unproven. No other nation has Medicare. That was an American invention. What other countries have is a single-payer plan for everyone that they made up themselves.
 
Blue Donkey said:
Medicare for All is totally unproven. No other nation has Medicare. That was an American invention. What other countries have is a single-payer plan for everyone that they made up themselves.
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What is the difference between Medicare and single payer? :popcorn:
 
Redress said:
Replacing him with some one just as bad, or maybe worse does not seem worth it to me.
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You're treading dangerously close to third party territory with that talk!
 
Josie said:
Only for those who are absolutely voting Democrat in this next election --- how happy would you be with Bernie as the nominee?
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I would be very happy with Bernie, but I could also be happy with Liz.
I could even be happy with Amy and satisfied enough to accept Joe Biden, although he would definitely be at the bottom of my list.
Still, even Biden would be a relief, it's just that I think he would be somewhat mediocre and we need someone who is a step or two better.

I honestly believe that while Andrew Yang is maybe too ahead of his time, I do think he will find a safe and happy landing in a future administration, not necessarily because of his "promises of candy" but because he is so focused on AI, robotics and automation and how to deal with these factors in a future job market. That alone is incredibly important if we are to stop the hemorrhaging.
 
Ikari said:
You're treading dangerously close to third party territory with that talk!
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Well, yeah. If the Democrats nominate Sanders, it means the party has left me behind. It is no longer the party it was, not the party I want. Time to find a new party then.

But not libertarian....
 
Middleground said:
To me, he's second to Warren. I will say this, though. His followers are too rabid for me. They scare me a lot more than Bernie.
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Calm down MG, we're NOT ALL "bros".
I am a rabid supporter of Bernie but just like last time, if he doesn't make the cut, I will again accept the next practical choice.
I just have a fervent hope that he does make it this time, that's all.

I agree that some of the "Bernie Bros" are a bit tough to take, but those are the ones who either WON'T vote or who will do something equally stupid if he doesn't win the nomination. But not all of us Bernie supporters are "bros".
I don't even think the MAJORITY of his supporters are "bros"...it's just that they seem to be the most vocal and the most visible.
I just want decency and normalcy, and a path to fixing the issues which are turning capitalism into a fundamentalist cult for the wealthy elites instead of a serviceable tool for the largest number of working Americans, that's all.
 
Redress said:
Well, yeah. If the Democrats nominate Sanders, it means the party has left me behind. It is no longer the party it was, not the party I want. Time to find a new party then.

But not libertarian....
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[slowly shakes head]

This is why Republicans are in lock step and always vote. They've always understood that it was about lifetime court seats. Enjoy the demise of RvW.
 
Greenbeard said:
If he sticks with the rallies and avoids sit down interviews like the plague we might have a chance.
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A lot of the interviews I've seen with Bernie make him look better than ever.
Is there a dinger that I am not aware of that made him look terrible?
Show me, I want to see it please.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Why don't you tell us specifically what "rabid" behavior you're seeing scares you so much. Be specific. Demanding affordable, universal healthcare like the rest of the modern world has? The horror!

Say what you want about Bernie supporters, they're not running around with tiki torches spewing nazi slogans.
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Come on now, we all know about the minority of "bros" who threw to Trump and the larger bunch who just stayed home and refused to vote at all. Most of the Bernie crowd threw to HRC as asked but the most visible and vocal bunch were the bros who did not and made a lot of noise about it in the process. Some even threw to Jill Stein, which was disturbing as Hell.
 
Redress said:
Well, yeah. If the Democrats nominate Sanders, it means the party has left me behind. It is no longer the party it was, not the party I want. Time to find a new party then.

But not libertarian....
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lol

No, I know quite well your opinion on libertarian philosophy.
 
swing_voter said:
If Benie is the nominee, I'll vote for Trump.
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Stop with your BS-ing because it is obvious you voted for Trump last time and it's even more obvious you will vote for him this time as well. I do not buy your 'swing voter' nonsense in the least and I bet most don't buy it either.

You've been putting us on for months but a lot of people figured you out a long time ago.
You ain't no "swing voter", you're a Trump voter who wants folks to think you're a swing voter.

Cute but not convincing.
 
Cardinal said:
[slowly shakes head]

This is why Republicans are in lock step and always vote. They've always understood that it was about lifetime court seats. Enjoy the demise of RvW.
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I don’t want to be like republicans...
 
Middleground said:
What is the difference between Medicare and single payer?
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Medicare is only for retired people at least 65 years old and disabled dependents. Everyone else has to get private insurance. So it is not single-payer,.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Hard pass. If you can't make your point or defend hers I'm not going to waste my own time. If you consider this whole interaction with me to be "rabid" and "scary", you're just being ridiculous. I asked both you and her to defend that statement and neither could.
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In other words, you don't like what the article has to say so you're not going to read it. Got it.

How about this, maybe actually go read what has already been said so as not to embarrass yourself with the la-la-la-can't-hear-you games. :lol:

Or you can keep proving me right about the defensiveness of Sanders supporters. You are making my point for me better than I ever could. :thumbs:
 
RabidAlpaca said:
So the "rabid" behavior you were talking about was them simply wanting Bernie and no one else? Don't for one second try to pretend Trump's election is Bernie's or Bernie supporters' fault. If Hillary had made him her VP she would've united the party and easily won the election. Instead she decided to pick some rando centrist that's just like her and tell the progressive wing to **** off. So really you didn't mean "rabid", you just meant too dedicated to Bernie at the ballot box. How "scary" that must be for you. Be sure to lock your doors at night.
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Funny you should say that because I kept trying to soothe myself with the notion that Hillz might Veep him and we might win the House and Senate, and he'd be the voice of reason on her Left shoulder and he'd try to temper her "GOP-lite" neoliberal posturing.

And then she picked Tim Kaine, who is about as exciting and statesmanlike as a peanut butter and butter on rye bread sandwich, and then too many voters stayed home and we lost WH, House AND Senate in a blistering trifecta of repudiation.

Please, let's not beat each other up too much.
 
Redress said:
I don’t want to be like republicans...
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The American Life League and Operation Save America thank you just the same.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
1 in 10? Lol, so you're using language to call Bernie supporters "rabid" and that you're "scared of them", because 1 in 10 eventually voted for Trump instead of Hillary? Jesus christ you are melodramatic and dishonest. By the way, I held my nose and voted for Hillary despite her telling progressives to go **** themselves. Her failure is hers and hers alone.
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Oh come on, one in ten is totally nutso and you know it, because it was one in ten going from Bernie to Trump!
That's beyond awful, it's horrific.
It's your teenage kid stealing your car, wrapping it around a phone pole, raping the neighbor's dog and sending dick pics to your boss' wife and saying it's you.
 
Middleground said:
Well said. And it's not like Bernie's theories and policies are unproven. He's just trying to bring a little Sweden, Norway and Canada into the United States.
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Then you have to also bring the taxation Norway and Sweden pay, and those taxes will have to be regressive.

Both Norway and Sweden have 25% VATs.
 
Blue Donkey said:
So far I can't tell the difference between Sanders and Warren except he wants to let inmates vote in prison (which Congress would not allow to happen anyway).
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Agreed, I am a liberal lefty but the inmate voting this is absurd and probably triggers my conservative values.
If you're in prison for a major offense, you get your rights taken from you, plain and simple.

Dumb idea and Bernie should have batted that question away on reflex, and he should "choose his battles" a little more carefully.
I imagine the question will come up repeatedly during the upcoming campaign season and I hope he figures out ways to move discussion to more substantial issues instead.
 
Cardinal said:
The American Life League and Operation Save America thank you just the same.
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If Sanders does get the nomination, then it's up to him to generate the interest to drum up the necessary votes. Just as it was Hillary's job to do, and tht she failed to do. People can be incredibly upset with Trump's administration and still not back the Dems candidate if that candidate does not sufficiently represent them or their political philosophy.

Not voting for the Dem candidate is not a vote for Trump in and of itself. And you cannot expect to be able to take through any ol' political platform just because it's not Trump.
 
The AntiDonald said:
Imagine if HRC did not have all that negative sh** going on. She would have crushed him like a ****-a-roach.

I will vote for any democrat that wins the nomination.
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Seventy-five percent of that was manufactured BS from the GOP to begin with.
The other twenty-five percent was her toxic arrogance and her "coronation" approach.
 
Ikari said:
If Sanders does get the nomination, then it's up to him to generate the interest to drum up the necessary votes. Just as it was Hillary's job to do, and tht she failed to do. People can be incredibly upset with Trump's administration and still not back the Dems candidate if that candidate does not sufficiently represent them or their political philosophy.

Not voting for the Dem candidate is not a vote for Trump in and of itself. And you cannot expect to be able to take through any ol' political platform just because it's not Trump.
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I've already addressed you in depth on this.
 
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