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Trump most ignorant, incompetent individual to hold presidency

Trump most ignorant, incompetent individual to hold presidency


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With his “America First” policy, Donald Trump has increasingly undermined international trade law. And that comes with huge costs not only for our trading partners but also for the United States itself. Farmers in particular, have suffered major losses due to the retaliatory measures especially of China, and they're vocally calling for a removal of the tariffs. Two years ago, economic research institutes had forecast significant job losses in the United States as a result of the steel and aluminum tariffs as well as the potential import tax on automobiles.

What Trump has done is roll back 50 or 60 years of progressive trade liberalization. These were international linkages that didn’t exist back in the 1950s. Undoing that is very, very economically dangerous. One of the biggest casualties has been manufacturing jobs

A better strategy would be for the US to consider investing more in our ailing infrastructure as well as education and training to strengthen our international competitiveness.

He abandoned trade deals that favored the other side by a long shot. Of course, those lousy trade deals weren't difficult for past politicians to make since they were so one sided. Trump has set about making our trade deals much more balanced and fair. Fair to the US and to the trade partner. BTW: unemployment is just over 3%. Farmers and manufacturing benefit greatly from the Phase 1 China deal.
 
I've always adhered to the theory that you get more bees with honey rather than vinegar.

Most of the media (and therefore liberalism) is geared towards calling republicans dumb. This doesn't make much headway, as Trump got elected in 2016 despite the vinegar from the left, and will likely get re-elected in spite of a doubling of the vinegar. People don't like vinegar splashed in their face.

I suggest a different route for the left: Lure Trump voters away with honey. Rather than say how stupid someone is to vote for Trump, convince them of all the benefits they'll get when they have a Bernie or a Warren as their president.

The OP specifically mentions Trump. Not Trump supporters.
 
But if Barack Obama had been added to the choices....He'd have won hands down as he was by far the worst president of my lifetime.....worst than Jimmy Carter if you can imagine that!

I believe that president Trump on the other hand has been the BEST president of my lifetime by far!!!

What do you believe people think when you claim that?
 
Only total racists make that sort of black qualifier. In the segregationist south, what would Obama have been considered? Black. In the slave trade, what would Obama have been considered? Black. Obama by any measure is our first black president, and is by any measure, regardless of what you think of his politics, a far better person that Donald Trump.

I don't like labels. I'd consider Obama a former President regardless of color . It's those on the left that emphasized his color to get him elected. Just like the left pushed Hillary to get the first women(sort of) elected. Are you guy's supporting Warren to get the first indian(sort of) elected? Bernie to get the first Jew(sort of) elected? Buttigeig to get the first gay(absolutely) elected? Shouldn't we look past colors and gender and religions and just pick the best person for the job?
 
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I don't like labels. I'd consider Obama a former President regardless of color . It's those on the left that emphasized his color to get him elected. Just like the left pushed Hillary to get the first women(sort of) elected. Are you guy's supporting Warren to get the first indian(sort of) elected? Bernie to get the first Jew(sort of) elected? Shouldn't we look past colors and gender and religions and just pick the best person for the job?

"I don't consider color. Obama was only elected because he's black. Warren is only a candidate because she claimed a Native American grandmother 5 generations ago. Bernie is only running because he's a Jew. But I don't see color."


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I don't like labels. I'd consider Obama a former President regardless of color . It's those on the left that emphasized his color to get him elected. Just like the left pushed Hillary to get the first women(sort of) elected. Are you guy's supporting Warren to get the first indian(sort of) elected? Bernie to get the first Jew(sort of) elected? Buttigeig to get the first gay(absolutely) elected? Shouldn't we look past colors and gender and religions and just pick the best person for the job?

Obama was elected because people thought he was the best person for the job. He was elected in spite of his color. However, he was the first black president. Not sort of the first black president, the first black president.
 
"I don't consider color. Obama was only elected because he's black. Warren is only a candidate because she claimed a Native American grandmother 5 generations ago. Bernie is only running because he's a Jew. But I don't see color."


:lol:

Like most racists, he doesn't see irony either.
 
What do you believe people think when you claim that?

Why would I care what they think???
I can list some very specific reasons why I believe president Trump to be the best president of my lifetime and why Barack Obama was the worst.... other People will believe what they want based on there own expectations for what they want from a president which could be different then mine
 
Why would I care what they think???

Because you're presenting yourself and all people will see is racism. But you don't care about that, do you? That's what you want.
 
But if Barack Obama had been added to the choices....He'd have won hands down as he was by far the worst president of my lifetime.....worst than Jimmy Carter if you can imagine that!

I believe that president Trump on the other hand has been the BEST president of my lifetime by far!!!


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Why would I care what they think???
I can list some very specific reasons why I believe president Trump to be the best president of my lifetime and why Barack Obama was the worst.... other People will believe what they want based on there own expectations for what they want from a president which could be different then mine

Your telling me that as a conservative you believe that Donald Trump is a better president than Ronald Reagan was?
 
Obama by any measure is our first black president, and is by any measure, regardless of what you think of his politics, a far better person that Donald Trump.

Perhaps......but that does not matter to me......as noted, Barack Obama was a eloquent speaker and came across as refined....and he was a sorry excuse and ineffective as a president.

I totally get that people find president Trump to be rough around the edges public relations wise......but he wasn't elected to be a grand speaker....he was elected to fix this screwed up mess and downward spiral this countries been on for years.

I contend that a tough, alpha male, New York billionaire bully boy businessman ....a take no prisoners ASSHOLE is EXACTLY what this country needed to straighten out the mess we have been in!!!

Like him???..... It's not necessary to like him!!! He just has to do the job...that's it!......And he is doing the job in spades!!!
 
Your telling me that as a conservative you believe that Donald Trump is a better president than Ronald Reagan was?

On the economy??? Yep...better even than Reagan!
 
Because you're presenting yourself and all people will see is racism. But you don't care about that, do you? That's what you want.

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Because you're presenting yourself and all people will see is racism. But you don't care about that, do you? That's what you want.

And what the hell does race has to do with it???? I never brought up skin color and its irrelevant to the conversation.

Barack Obama wasn't a sorry president becuase he was black....he was a sorry president because he was ineffective and his ideas were on the wrong side of things.
 
Rex Tillerson used fewer words to say the same thing!

I think Tillerson spoke to the lack of his intellectual capacity rather than is ignorance, but both appear to be spot on....
 
Now this, I agree with.

Trump certainly IS the most dangerous individual to hold the presidency...at least, most dangerous to the swamp dwellers who are beholden to the millions of dollars that they've received from their donors...to the multinational globalists (the donors) who are at risk of losing trillions because of Trump. The Chinese and the Russians also know how dangerous Trump is. He is costing them billions.

But the ones that Trump is absolutely NO danger to is...Main Street USA.


Trump is the swamp and is beholden to his donors.

Trump rewards big donors with jobs and access - POLITICO

More than a third of the almost 200 people who have met with President-elect Donald Trump since his election last month, including those interviewing for administration jobs, gave large amounts of money to support his campaign and other Republicans this election cycle.


Companies that funded Trump's inauguration came up big in 2017

Of the 63 federal contractors that donated to the inauguration, more than half won multimillion-dollar bids in 2017, federal records show. Six companies earned contracts last year after not receiving any awards in 2016.

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt MC.
 
I don't know what thread you're on...but this one is called "Trump most ignorant, incompetent individual to hold presidency"

Race has nothing to do with it and race is not even on my radar at any rate.....
 
But if Barack Obama had been added to the choices....He'd have won hands down as he was by far the worst president of my lifetime.....worst than Jimmy Carter if you can imagine that!

I believe that president Trump on the other hand has been the BEST president of my lifetime by far!!!

Of course, scholars of political science (you know, the experts) uniformly disagree with your assessment.... then again, they understand such matters as they are experts and you are not.

Historical rankings of presidents of the United States - Wikipedia
 
Per John Brennan: Trump most ignorant, incompetent individual to hold presidency

True or false?

John Brennan: Trump most ignorant, incompetent individual to hold presidency

Oh, this is very true. The closest I can think of was Grover Cleveland (Democrat). Popular opinion at the time was broadly hostile to his Administration's course on the domestic and Foreign Policy levels. Cleveland spent his Presidency ignoring America's identity and history of creating and safeguarding American trade throughout the world, and persistently argued for isolationism.

- He hated that blacks had rights in the South, thus betraying the Declaration of Independence, the gains of the Civil War, and the 14th Amendment.

- He hated national expansion, thus bucking the accepted theme of Manifest Destiny, and refused to allow the annexation of Hawaii.

- He was publicly against the bi-partisan build-up of a modern Navy, declaring that such a thing was "not consistent with the early policy" of the republic. This was ignorant, considering that the early policy of the republic involved building a navy to fight Barbary Pirates in the Mediterranean to protect our trade.

- He abandoned several trade and reciprocity agreements; and routinely insisted to foreign leaders that the Monroe Doctrine "did not establish any protectorate by the United States over other American states." This was a clear contradiction to the globally understood document, and moved Britain to act in Venezuela.

- He refused to get involved with Cuba's struggle for independence against Spain, leaving Spain to do as it pleased, until widespread criticism across the country forced him to act against Spain, which mostly involved pleading and fruitless deal-making until the revolutionaries in Cuba won.

- He dispatched federal troops to Illinois during the Pullman Strike of 1894, over the objections of the state's Governor, which was also in violation of the Posse Comitatus Act, created just sixteen years earlier.

Throughout his Presidency, Democrats and Republicans criticized Cleveland's isolationists foreign policy as weak and in retreat; and so much of it was based on an ignorance of his own country's history. His weakening of American identity, the Pullman Strike, along with the depression at the time, shifted the political landscape. The 1894 elections produced the largest reversal of congressional political strength in American history. Cleveland's Democrats lost 113 seats in the House and 5 in the Senate; and there were rebellions in the Party ranks by 1895. Despite Republicans coming out on top of Cleveland's fiasco, both political parties were alarmed when a million and a half voters across the nation chose populists to represent them.

....but that was before Donald Trump, the current ignorant idiot who bases all policy decisions on personal ego and a quest to please a minority of voters who don't even care.
 
I'm not a big Trump supporter but I don't think he quite qualifies to be the most ignorant, incompetent president. In the last 50 years, the honor for that title would go to Jimmy Carter 1st and foremost. George W. Bush would be 2nd in line IMO.

Trump would certainly qualify to be the most arrogant president in recent times.
 
Per John Brennan: Trump most ignorant, incompetent individual to hold presidency

True or false?

Is this the same John Brennan who was the most inept, under investigation for lying before congress, former CIA director ever, who is the paid shill we see on CNN? :doh
 
And you're an expert???? HAHAHAHAHA

What an incredibly nonsensical response. Where in my post did I suggest I was an expert? Do you understand what you read? Do you read?

Let me make this clearer to you as it apparently went right over your head.

Unlike most Trump supporters, however, that arrogantly and ignorantly cast aside expertise because its rare that any expert agrees with Trump's worldview, I am humble enough to pay attention to people that know more than I do. Hence, I posted all of the major polls of political scientists that have ranked Presidents. You will note (and you didn't because like most Trump supporters, that actual truth is too ugly to look at) the experts uniformly stand in stark contrast to your view on Trump. Now, I am not saying you can't have, but its clearly without foundation.

I love this whole thing of Trump supporters casting aside expert opinion in favor of things they wish to hear, essentially suggesting they know more than the experts. I wonder how many of them chose their doctor or lawyer using the same criteria.
 
On the economy??? Yep...better even than Reagan!
Reagan gave us O'Connor and Kennedy along with Scalia. Trump has given us two Scalias so not just the economy.

Conservative Results.

Obama by all accounts, is a perfect man raising a perfect family as was Carter. Pitiful as president.

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