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is the U.K. ass kicking reflective of what will happen in the US in 2020?

is the U.K. ass kicking reflective of what will happen in the US in 2020?

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Corbyn is little different from the New Democrat Soviets of America Partei (NDSAP)... the Party formerly known as the Democrat Party.

You’re hearing Cornyn’s socialist schemes were freaking out people.*

so... will the U.K. election be reflective of the coming US Election.

Yes.

No.

*PS. Recall... Obama warned his party they’re going too far out on the socialist limb. They’re revealing too much of of the Socialist road the party really wants to go down.
 
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zimmer said:
Corbyn is little different from the New Democrat Soviets of America Partei (NDSAP)... the Party formerly known as the Democrat Party.

You’re hearing Cornyn’s socialist schemes were freaking out people.*

so... will the U.K. election be reflective of the coming US Election.

Yes.

No.

*PS. Recall... Obama warned his party they’re going too far out on the socialist limb. They’re revealing too much of of the Socialist road the party really wants to go down.
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No. Last I checked, leaving the EU didn't dominate our politics to the exclusion of all else.
 
zimmer said:
Corbyn is little different from the New Democrat Soviets of America Partei (NDSAP)... the Party formerly known as the Democrat Party.

You’re hearing Cornyn’s socialist schemes were freaking out people.*

so... will the U.K. election be reflective of the coming US Election.

Yes.

No.

*PS. Recall... Obama warned his party they’re going too far out on the socialist limb. They’re revealing too much of of the Socialist road the party really wants to go down.
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No....

Hillary winning the popular vote by 3 million tells the story
 
There is a double trend;

The left wandering off into out leftying each other with a cult effect where anybody who does not toe the line and go with the max left naritive is thrown out as a heretic.

The backlash of this is the ease of the right, or at least not left, to take the win as long as it does not do stupid stuff. Trump, in case you have not noticed, does not do much at all. He just shouts loudly about anything relying upon the outrage industry to cover it all up for him.
 
I think it's hard to say. We don't have a Brexit kind of issue, but there is bound to be some backlash from older working class people based on the word socialism. That should be beneficial to Trump in those rust belt states assuming loss of manufacturing jobs is minimized. Another difference is that Trump is more unpopular than Bernie, assuming that's who we are talking about here, where as Corbyn was much more unpopular than Boris. The gamble of going too far left is that you energize young voters who are unreliable when it comes time to vote, and alienate a good portion of older voters who are sitting around waiting to vote.
 
zimmer said:
Corbyn is little different from the New Democrat Soviets of America Partei (NDSAP)... the Party formerly known as the Democrat Party.

You’re hearing Cornyn’s socialist schemes were freaking out people.*

so... will the U.K. election be reflective of the coming US Election.

Yes.

No.

*PS. Recall... Obama warned his party they’re going too far out on the socialist limb. They’re revealing too much of of the Socialist road the party really wants to go down.
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I don't think we are going to exit the EU
 
Surrealistik said:
No. Last I checked, leaving the EU didn't dominate our politics to the exclusion of all else.
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Corbyn was selling a Socialist utopia... that helped Labour lose seats that have been in their hands for almost a century.
 
tacomancer said:
I don't think we are going to exit the EU
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Even Labour is admitting it wasn’t just Brexit.

Corbyn was selling a socialist utopia... it even freaked out formerly solid Labour seats.
 
Luther said:
No....

Hillary winning the popular vote by 3 million tells the story
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That was 2016. People didn’t believe Trump would follow through on his promises.

He has.

He set the foundation for the biggest US economy ever... setting employment records across the board.

The New Democrat Soviets of America Partei (NSDAP) have Corbyned their party to such an extent it freaked out former Socialist Presidenté Obama... and moved him to warn them of being too honest.
 
zimmer said:
Even Labour is admitting it wasn’t just Brexit.

Corbyn was selling a socialist utopia... it even freaked out formerly solid Labour seats.
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None of that affects whether or not the US will leave the EU :lol:

The UK can do what it wants, that's not my country :shrug:
 
tacomancer said:
None of that matters because the US still isn't leaving the EU :lol:
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Well... of course you would say that... ignoring the parallels.

That’s Ok... I understand. 2016 was a terrible shock to the Leftists... Orange Man Bad winning a handy victory over the US Corbyn Candidate in 2020 is just too much for you to consider.
 
zimmer said:
Well... of course you would say that... ignoring the parallels.

That’s Ok... I understand. 2016 was a terrible shock to the Leftists... Orange Man Bad winning a handy victory over the US Corbyn Candidate in 2020 is just too much for you to consider.
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The parallel that even the last special elections were a mini blue wave?

Weren't you freaking out about virginia a week or so ago?
 
MrPeanut said:
I think it's hard to say. We don't have a Brexit kind of issue, but there is bound to be some backlash from older working class people based on the word socialism. That should be beneficial to Trump in those rust belt states assuming loss of manufacturing jobs is minimized. Another difference is that Trump is more unpopular than Bernie, assuming that's who we are talking about here, where as Corbyn was much more unpopular than Boris. The gamble of going too far left is that you energize young voters who are unreliable when it comes time to vote, and alienate a good portion of older voters who are sitting around waiting to vote.
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Brexit was a factor, but not the only one. Corbyn is an unabashed Socialist. It freaked out voters in Labour seats since 1922 to vote Tory.

Labour is claiming Corbyn was a factor... smart on their part, and transparent... as they want to keep Remain alive... but alas... that train has left the station.
 
tacomancer said:
The parallel that even the last special elections were a mini blue wave?

Weren't you freaking out about virginia a week or so ago?
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Freaking out. No. I don’t freak-out. Elections are won and lost... there will be a Democrat Presidenté again one day.

VA has seen a change due to Leftists escaping the misery caused by their party... and have moved... bringing their idiocy along with them... to destroy another state.
 
zimmer said:
That was 2016. People didn’t believe Trump would follow through on his promises.

He has.

He set the foundation for the biggest US economy ever... setting employment records across the board.

The New Democrat Soviets of America Partei (NSDAP) have Corbyned their party to such an extent it freaked out former Socialist Presidenté Obama... and moved him to warn them of being too honest.
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Well, explain Dims taking the house at the end of 2018? That wasn't that long ago.

First of all, you can promise unrealistic all you want. It doesn't mean it will happen.

Like Mexico paying for the wall. Courts have recently shutdown military funding for the wall?

Failures with NK

I'm also not so sure that the new NAFTA agreement is as Rosy as people like you think?


He set the foundation for the biggest US economy ever... setting employment records across the board.
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Like part time black employment? That means they still qualify for the many various forms of welfare still
 
zimmer said:
Freaking out. No. I don’t freak-out. Elections are won and lost... there will be a Democrat Presidenté again one day.

VA has seen a change due to Leftists escaping the misery caused by their party... and have moved... bringing their idiocy along with them... to destroy another state.
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I would say that US political results are far more relevant to US politics than UK political results are relevant to US politics :shrug:
 
zimmer said:
Corbyn was selling a Socialist utopia... that helped Labour lose seats that have been in their hands for almost a century.
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If you actually pay attention to the seats that were lost, particularly the 'Red Wall', they are almost exclusively about Brexit, and his stance on it, or more accurately lackthereof, not domestic policy (and his vantages on things like healthcare were popular). He's a poor political leader in that he tried to dance around the unavoidable domineering zeitgeist of the time, not wanting to alienate Brexiters and Remainers, only to ultimately fail to attract either with his spinelessness on the matter.
 
Luther said:
Well, explain Dims taking the house at the end of 2018? That wasn't that long ago.
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Easy.

Russia, Russia, Russia... and the Goebbels Media propagandizing it for the entire time. Now the Goebbels Media and their party have egg all over the faces, not just faces... but head to toe for the corruption they supported and helped perpetrate.

Further, these were moderates who won, not socialists.

These “moderates”, we are going to find out how “moderate” they are. A vote for this sham impeachment is going to be a test, as ObamaCare was.

ObamaCare gutted the party. Made it their weakest since 1920.

Like Mexico paying for the wall. Courts have recently shutdown military funding for the wall?
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That decision will be overridden, as virtually everything Deep State has been.

Failures with NK
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No rockets flying over Japan... seemingly peaceful... it’s been a success thus far.

I'm also not so sure that the new NAFTA agreement is as Rosy as people like you think?
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Well... you’ve been wrong about everything, add this to your list.


Like part time black employment? That means they still qualify for the many various forms of welfare still
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ROTFLOL... 30 to 35% approval in three polls.
 
zimmer said:
Easy.

Russia, Russia, Russia... and the Goebbels Media propagandizing it for the entire time. Now the Goebbels Media and their party have egg all over the faces, not just faces... but head to toe for the corruption they supported and helped perpetrate.

Further, these were moderates who won, not socialists.

These “moderates”, we are going to find out how “moderate” they are. A vote for this sham impeachment is going to be a test, as ObamaCare was.

ObamaCare gutted the party. Made it their weakest since 1920.


That decision will be overridden, as virtually everything Deep State has been.


No rockets flying over Japan... seemingly peaceful... it’s been a success thus far.


Well... you’ve been wrong about everything, add this to your list.



ROTFLOL... 30 to 35% approval in three polls.
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Russia, Russia, Russia... and the Goebbels Media propagandizing it for the entire time. Now the Goebbels Media and their party have egg all over the faces, not just faces... but head to toe for the corruption they supported and helped perpetrate.
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So what do ya think about this Fakenews# media in action?(LOL)




Further, these were moderates who won, not socialists.
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Democrats(Not Republicans) none the less(wink)


That decision will be overridden, as virtually everything Deep State has been
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We shall see....


No rockets flying over Japan... seemingly peaceful... it’s been a success thus far.
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No need to... they have already tested them(wink) Don't forget this whole Trump love letter peace talks, NK has been making more material to build more Nuclear weapons. Keep up the good work!(LOL)


Well... you’ve been wrong about everything, add this to your list.
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Not really, you haven't proven me wrong(wink)

ROTFLOL... 30 to 35% approval in three polls.
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Okay, but I don't want to hear from you anymore how Hillary was leading in those polls Amen?(LOL)
 
Yes with an *.

The condition being it depends on bloomberg. If he buys his way to the front and starts down a more moderate platform than the current front three, then he could salvage the democrats. Otherwise, they are in deep doo doo thinking they can go to the hard left, rely on increased turn out there, abandon the middle class and moderates and still win.
 
zimmer said:
Corbyn is little different from the New Democrat Soviets of America Partei (NDSAP)... the Party formerly known as the Democrat Party.

You’re hearing Cornyn’s socialist schemes were freaking out people.*

so... will the U.K. election be reflective of the coming US Election.

Yes.

No.

*PS. Recall... Obama warned his party they’re going too far out on the socialist limb. They’re revealing too much of of the Socialist road the party really wants to go down.
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I voted no but would have voted depends if that choice was given. If Warren or Sanders is the nominee it well could be a predictor.

If Democrats find a moderate, or at least not a fringe candidate then I would say the English election will not turn out to be a predictor of our election.
 
Luther said:
No....

Hillary winning the popular vote by 3 million tells the story
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Not really. A single state skewing results does not prove the mandate the left thinks it does.

The UK and US are going to sign a free trade agreement, and that will further improve the economy of both Nations.

Add in the fallout for the left's coup attempt...………………..
 
Luther said:
No....

Hillary winning the popular vote by 3 million tells the story
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In several very large democrat controlled precincts with electronic voting machines with no backup for verification Hillary exceeded poll expectations by 10% or more. It was phenomenal, even to democrats. It reminded us of the huge margins of victory for Hugo Chavez in Venezuela where the same sort of manipulatable electronic voting machines were used.
 
zimmer said:
Corbyn is little different from the New Democrat Soviets of America Partei (NDSAP)... the Party formerly known as the Democrat Party.

You’re hearing Cornyn’s socialist schemes were freaking out people.*

so... will the U.K. election be reflective of the coming US Election.

Yes.

No.

*PS. Recall... Obama warned his party they’re going too far out on the socialist limb. They’re revealing too much of of the Socialist road the party really wants to go down.
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There may be some similarities. But the US and the UK are very different countries with entirely different political systems. Moreover Johnson is not a Trump; with his big majority he will move his party leftwards towards the centre. Boris has just said - and I believe him - that once out of the EU his priority will be to retain the 'new' working lass voters in the North and Midlands.
 
I don't follow British politics much, but my understanding is that Tories have been trying to dismantle the NHS for years -- which is basically the system that Sanders wants to bring to America. The British people LOVE the NHS with a whopping 83% popularity. Similarly, Medicare For All has a 70%+ approval rating in America -- even with the media constantly attacking it.

The policies of socialism, democratic socialism, or social democracy are off-the-charts popular.

According to sources close to Trump, Trump himself has said that beating a socialist-type would be extremely difficult. Because they offer things that help the American people -- the voters -- and he frankly doesn't.
 
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