Out of curiosity, did my post earlier (103) come across as me trying to say that black people were handicapped in any sort of way? Just wanted to know if I'm going crazy or if Eco is on another gender studies ego trip.
1.) I used to have this conversation all the time with a coworker because I never understood why he would vote Democrat despite disagreeing with virtually everything the party stands for: He is a Deacon for the church, a gun nut, will never vote for a woman, Pro Life, against drug legalization, anti same sex marriage, and the rest but consistently votes Democratic and has all of his life and to top it off his father did so as well (this is an older gentleman so this would put his father literally voting for Jim Crow Democrats in the south).
2.) My theory is that the messaging of the Democratic party speaks to the African American community in ways that the Republican message simply can't.
3.) The Republican message is that of individualism while Democrats preach collectivism.
4.) I think that the years of persecution that African Americans have suffered instilled a need for community and a sense of shared racial identity that white people simply don't have.
5.) Another theory I had was that African Americans are disproportionately poor so that increases the likelihood that they may personally know a friend/family member on welfare and thus would be less likely to want vote for someone that would want to cut social welfare programs. I don't really see this one though as it wouldn't explain my coworkers father who was a lifelong Democrat even during the Jim Crow South.
Ok start to finish NO you most certainly didnt say anything like that at all to anybody normal. I dont fully agree with everything you said but thats meaningless to your question
i will break it down regardless cause i like conversation
1.) I an independent but I dont think being a deacon, gun nut, against drug legalization are antidemocratic.
now being against equal and or current rights is a tougher one and something i feel is VERY hypocritical for a black man and at not really a democratic thing but again i do know dems like him black, white etc.
anyway, i still think the answer to your question is in my post where i quoted myself when i said:
time after time at the GOP upper level bills/laws/rights support/lean/have anti-minority policies/views/language directly or indirectly and its common
things like antigay marriage and prolife are pretty much lost causes IN MY OPINION so i dont know if they are things politically rational people will cling too so taking the lose on those things but not giving into what i just said above seems like the much easier choice to me . .
even though im independent when it comes to president voting it very much is a factor for me . . not locally though and lower level voting
2.) i dont necessarily agree with this the way you worded it but the GOP message, again at the top level, more times than not is antiminority for one reason or another whether they mean it to be or not and thats the real issue. I dont think the democrats are that great at speaking to minorities but they are heads and heels better at not speaking AGAINST them
3.) ive never gotten this vibe from the parties either but again thats just me. I dont think dems speak collectivism at all
4.) this is true in many regards, a GENERAL sense of community is stronger in minorities based on race simply due to a sense of security/protection
5.) while your stats are correct i believe, ive never really heard that being an issue (who people know) but in general, at least stereo-typically, the dems support safety nets for citizens and thats simply typical of
individuals that are dems vs a race thing.
But again to reiterate NOT you said nothing along the lines of what you were illogical and falsely accused of.
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