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Hand pick your president

Hand pick your president.

  • Trump

    Votes: 15 27.8%

  • Mitt Romney

    Votes: 1 1.9%

  • Gary Johnson

    Votes: 1 1.9%

  • Ron Paul

    Votes: 1 1.9%

  • Some other Republican

    Votes: 8 14.8%

  • Bernie Sanders

    Votes: 10 18.5%

  • Elizabeth Warren

    Votes: 2 3.7%

  • Mayor Pete

    Votes: 5 9.3%

  • Joe Biden

    Votes: 3 5.6%

  • Some other Democrat

    Votes: 8 14.8%
  • Total voters
    54
MrWonka

MrWonka

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If you could hand pick any individual person you wanted and put them in the white house right now who would it be? Obviously you can't pick yourself, and I'll rule out Obama since he's already served 2 terms.
 
I've long thought Condoleezza Rice would make an excellent president, but she's too smart to be interested in the job.
 
I pick Buttigieg. Hands down the best, I believe.
 
Hmmm. Ron Paul is too old, but I did really like him. I think we really missed an opportunity by railroading him in the primaries. But he wasn't really status quo Corporate Republocrat, so the GOP and its media was hell bent on pushing him out.

Gary Johnson is OK. Clearly better than Trump or Clinton at any rate.

Michael Badnarik was the first Libertarian I voted for, I did like him as well. Some wonky ideas, but still overall much better than the Republocrats.
 
Oh, I'd take Michelle in a heart-beat too. Nor would I turn my back on Oprah.
 
President Trump, of course.

He deserves to be reelected for at least one reason: To prove to individuals such as the Honorable Adam Schiff and his ilk that a cabal of sore losers cannot invalidate the will of the people.
 
Philosophically I'm more aligned with Ron Paul, but due to the state of the media acting as leftist government agents, I'd go with Trump since he's the only one who will stand up to them.
 
Rickeroo said:
Philosophically I'm more aligned with Ron Paul, but due to the state of the media acting as leftist government agents, I'd go with Trump since he's the only one who will stand up to them.
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lol

I'm not sure that championing abuse of power and corruption is really "sticking it to the leftists" in a way that someone who really aligned more with Ron Paul could accept.
 
WillyPete said:
I've long thought Condoleezza Rice would make an excellent president, but she's too smart to be interested in the job.
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You do remember the Bush administration right?
 
MrWonka said:
If you could hand pick any individual person you wanted and put them in the white house right now who would it be? Obviously you can't pick yourself, and I'll rule out Obama since he's already served 2 terms.
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Some other independent. No member of the DNC or RNC will put protecting rights above partisan politics. No libertarians I know of would be able to govern, because they dont want to.

Rand Paul is the closest I can think of, but he would probably be a disaster too, though certainly better than any real democrat or republican.
 
TheParser said:
a cabal of sore losers cannot invalidate the will of the people.
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Yeah, that's what the Electoral College, Gerrymandering, The Senate, and Voter ID laws are for right?
 
MrWonka said:
You do remember the Bush administration right?
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Yeah, I was going to say that tainted her, but honestly I give her specifically a pass. I'm not aware of anything she personally did that was untoward or unprofessional, and I'm impressed by her background.

It's entirely possible I missed something.
 
Rickeroo said:
due to the state of the media acting as leftist government agents, I'd go with Trump since he's the only one who will stand up to them.
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The Truth is Leftist now huh? If you ever find yourself agreeing with the word of an individual politician over the what 90% of the free press is telling you then you belong in an mental hospital. You fail how to spot bias 101.
 
jonny5 said:
No libertarians I know of would be able to govern, because they dont want to.
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Gary Johnson did a decent job as Governor, and I think he wanted to govern as well. And compared to Trump and Hillary, Johnson was much much much better.

I really liked Paul as well, and I don't think he'd be a disaster. If we can survive Trump, then Paul will be a walk in the park. The thing with Paul, or Johnson for that matter, is that I think we would get a scaling back of Presidential powers with folk like that. And I think we're at a point in the Republic where that's necessary.
 
Ikari said:
'm not sure that championing abuse of power and corruption is really "sticking it to the leftists" in a way that someone who really aligned more with Ron Paul could accept.
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That's the reality about most Libertarians though. They're not actually Libertarians at all they're just Hipsters and contrarians who want to be different. They're not actually attracted to policies they're attracted to chaos and ****ing with whatever is popular with the Majority. They believe that going against the grain makes them unique and therefore intelligent and above it all.
 
Cheney.
 
Superfly said:
I really liked Kamala Harris but she didn’t have a strong enough message.

Next in line? Michelle Obama, all the way.
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Can't argue with your picks. Could you imagine Michelle + Buttigieg as Veep? Now there's my dream ticket leading to 16 years of (hopefully) bliss!
 
MrWonka said:
they're attracted to chaos and ****ing with whatever is popular with the Majority.
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No, that's just Gen-X.

lol

I don't believe that your disparagement of libertarians or libertarian philosophy is at all honest or accurate. I do think that there are quite a few who like to wear the moniker of "libertarian", but are actually just GOP-Loyalists (I don't refer to that type as libertarian, they're GOP-Loyalists). That being said, I think that many people who are invested in libertarian philosophy aren't just doing so because they like going against the grain. There are rich, diverse, and important fundamentals behind libertarian philosophy that seem to have been lost to the main parties.

In the end, libertarians are quite serious regarding the platforms and philosophies we endorse. I know that Partisans probably don't quite get that and get mad over it, that's OK. That's the binary way of thinking cementing itself, and it happens. But that doesn't negate the time, though, and energy many libertarians have put into learning and adopting libertarian philosophies.
 
Chomsky said:
Can't argue with your picks. Could you imagine Michelle + Buttigieg as Veep? Now there's my dream ticket leading to 16 years of (hopefully) bliss!
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Would be wonderful. I’d like to see Buttigieg with Kamala Harris as VP, or maybe have her as AG. Could you imagine her as AG?
 
Ted Cruz would be my first choice. Rand (not Ron) Paul and CA Congressman Tom Campbell would also be solid picks.
 
Ikari said:
I don't believe that your disparagement of libertarians or libertarian philosophy is at all honest or accurate.
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I think you want to believe you're ideas are a lot more popular than they actually are. Sorry, they're not.
 
I'd probably go with Sanders. I'm not sure that I'd pick him in the primary this time, as my top issue is win. However, I doubt that my primary vote will count for much.
 
MrWonka said:
I think you want to believe you're ideas are a lot more popular than they actually are. Sorry, they're not.
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I know quite well how popular they are. I was not speaking to any sort of aggregate population, but rather restricting to the subset of libertarians. I think you just need to disparage independent thinkers because you're caught in the false dichotomy and cemented binary thinking. You want to blame independent thinkers for the failures of your party instead of accepting and owning those failures.

I think you would better serve yourself and your cause if you stopped trying to scapegoat failure and instead learn from it.
 
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