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If transjacking men competing in women’s sports is permitted...

If transjacking men are competing in women’s sports, shouldn’t women be able to take steroids?

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...shouldn’t women athletes be allowed to take steroids?*

Yes.

No.

If not, why not?

*in events not currently allowing them? The Olympics etc.
 
zimmer said:
...shouldn’t women athletes be allowed to take steroids?*

Yes.

No.

If not, why not?

*in events not currently allowing them? The Olympics etc.
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No, they shouldn't. As it stands the training for Olympics is brutal on the body. It would be an unfair advantage to women who aren't taking steroids.

And before you start with the "OMG THEN TRANSGENDER FEMALES SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO COMPETE IN FEMALE EVENTS, /grumble grumble gumble", I don't think they should be allowed to compete in female events like that. Restrooms, employment, ect. they should be treated equal, however, even with taking hormonal medication they still have an advantage physically over a female.
 
Steroids would not make females the same as males in athletic abilities because physiologically structure of males and females are very different. Nature evolve humans - and nearly all animal life - to be physiologically unisexual in physical structure regardless of the animal's psychological frame of mind.
 
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Wrong question.

I have changed my opinion on this, I do not think women should have to compete with transgender women. We are seeing too much biological advantage and it is playing out in a way that was not really intended for those other than transgender women who in some cases are dominating those events. Track and field comes to mind from recent news stories on this.

Ultimately, while transgender athletes deserve compassion and place they do not deserve the right to transform women's sports.
 
Probably not, the whole East German Swimming Team tactic has many negative side effects and if you allowed it, then pretty much anyone who would want to compete would have to do so in order to be competitive.

I'm not sure if trans athletes will be allowed to participate in the sport for the gender they identify as. I think there's lots of reasons to say no to that. But also, I'm not sure exactly how prevalent this issue really is.
 
zimmer said:
...shouldn’t women athletes be allowed to take steroids?*

Yes.

No.

If not, why not?

*in events not currently allowing them? The Olympics etc.
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If women can take steroids, so can trans men. Then where are they?
The political agenda of the government we chose has decided that women have to compete trans men. As they say about global change, “it’s settled science” and cis women are soooo yesterday.

It is a political issue and women got the shaft.
 
"transjacking?"

A man is still a man even if he considers himself to be female. He should not be allowed to compete in women's sports until he proves himself to actually be a woman.

He can do that by conceiving and bearing a child. Once he's done t hat, he can be considered a she.
 
chuckiechan said:
If women can take steroids, so can trans men. Then where are they?
The political agenda of the government we chose has decided that women have to compete trans men. As they say about global change, “it’s settled science” and cis women are soooo yesterday.

It is a political issue and women got the shaft.
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Well... the transjackers don’t get to take steroids.

Once again... the Left turns what should be and has been simple and straightforward for millennia... into a cesspool.

They’ve got a penchant for ****ing up everything they touch... even something as simple as gender.
 
Dittohead not! said:
"transjacking?"

A man is still a man even if he considers himself to be female. He should not be allowed to compete in women's sports until he proves himself to actually be a woman.

He can do that by conceiving and bearing a child. Once he's done t hat, he can be considered a she.
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There is no room for common sense in sexual politics. You’d think they were building an army to take over the country. They are the true rare event made important by cheating us out of our common sense.
 
Dittohead not! said:
"transjacking?"

A man is still a man even if he considers himself to be female. He should not be allowed to compete in women's sports until he proves himself to actually be a woman.

He can do that by conceiving and bearing a child. Once he's done t hat, he can be considered a she.
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Don't joke. Radical trans activists say this is reality. You do know men get periods too, right? And they have babies?
 
Acadia said:
Don't joke. Radical trans activists say this is reality. You do know men get periods too, right? And they have babies?
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BS. From the research I see that is nonsense. A woman who is born a woman but identifies as a man, yes can have a child. The catch here is she is biologically a women, DNA and hormones and sex organs all say she is a women. That person is not a biological man. If I cut off a dogs tail and sew it on a woman does that make her a canine?
 
Integrityrespec said:
BS. From the research I see that is nonsense. A woman who is born a woman but identifies as a man, yes can have a child. The catch here is she is biologically a women, DNA and hormones and sex organs all say she is a women. That person is not a biological man. If I cut off a dogs tail and sew it on a woman does that make her a canine?
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I assume Acadia is referring to the campaign to include transmen when discussing menstruation, among other things. Always brand discontinued the Venus symbol on their pads, for instance, after pressure from the trans community. There is a push to change terminology in many ways.

On transmen having babies, this depends on when and how far they transition. If they went from puberty blockers to cross sex hormones *they are sterile*. This is the protocol now for children who identify as trans.
There are some transmen who have birthed babies (they went through their own sexed puberty). We do not yet know the repercussions to the fetus and baby, of cross sex hormones either during pregnancy or while breast feeding (there is a push to call this "chest-feeding" as well)
 
Dittohead not! said:
"transjacking?"

A man is still a man even if he considers himself to be female. He should not be allowed to compete in women's sports until he proves himself to actually be a woman.

He can do that by conceiving and bearing a child. Once he's done t hat, he can be considered a she.
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They should only be allowed to compete while actively pregnant, that child could have been the product of doctored records.
 
Can anyone post these supposed huge advantages trans women have over women in these events followed by any analysis of the results?
 
Dittohead not! said:
"transjacking?"

A man is still a man even if he considers himself to be female. He should not be allowed to compete in women's sports until he proves himself to actually be a woman.

He can do that by conceiving and bearing a child. Once he's done t hat, he can be considered a she.
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Someone has to bear a child to be a woman? What about those who cant?
 
zimmer said:
...shouldn’t women athletes be allowed to take steroids?*

Yes.

No.

If not, why not?

*in events not currently allowing them? The Olympics etc.
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Why not allow everyone to use them?

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I voted no because it perpetuates the groteque anti-science and biology lie that the ONLY physiological difference between males and females are hormones.
 
We personally attempt to protect endangers and at risk species. On our list are gopher tortoises.

On one of our properties, we have gopher tortoise burrows. There were 2 only a few feet from each other - one an adult male and the other adult female. The females are significantly larger. They often knock over males to keep them away. If knocked over on concrete or other smooth surface, the male tortoise is doomed unable to self right himself - thus both vulnerable to predators and dying of thirst, starvation or the elements.

That happened to the male. The female killed it by knocking it over on the driveway. We didn't know that had happened. The male could not grab onto anything with it's short clawed fee to flip itself over on the slippery, hard flat concrete. It appears to have been killed by a coyote or dog - though possibly a bird of prey given how many there are here.

According to those who believe steroids/hormones creates physical equality between male and female homo sapiens, even though physiologically different, then they also must be claiming we could save any and all male gopher tortoise by injection in tortoise estrogen - turning them 100% into the physical equals of the much larger females.

So my question is: Do ANY of you REALLY believe that would work? That the males and females of species can be made physically equal in speed, strength and abilities merely by altering their adult chemistry? That is the claim about the homo sapien species - that an animal's physical abilities between males and females is singularly a matter of homo levels or other body chemistry. That female black widow spiders could not kill a smaller male merely by altering the male spider's body chemistry to female?
 
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TRansjacking, is that the term for right wingers masturbating to trans people that really turn them on?
 
bomberfox said:
Someone has to bear a child to be a woman? What about those who cant?
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What about female bone structure and proportion differences? Explain how a person with a male body (bones, center of gravity, hip structure, leg to height wide - for starters - metamorphs into female. The male's legs get shorter and spine longer, his hips get wider and his muscles restructure themselves.

Any of you who claim injecting female hormones causes the adult human body to completely restructure itself to male homo sapien structure please give an example of that actually happening to any biological male in the known history of the human race - and how long of time do you believe it takes for that to have completely happened?

That some 6'2 male who was born of female psychology went on female hormones - resulting in his legs becoming 4 inches short, with his spine shrinking only 1 inch and the diameter of his hip bone widen by 3 inches? Please document this as it is the claim of most Democrats on this forum - that hormones can make everyone physically identical in terms of their biological sex.
 
Sampson Simpson said:
TRansjacking, is that the term for right wingers masturbating to trans people that really turn them on?
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Transjacking is when a very physically large and strong male can not win in male athletic competition, so declares he feels like a woman to go be able to use his male anatomy to go steal the trophies, fame and benefits including economic from females.

Transjacking has all by eliminated any female having a future lucrative in professional athletic competition if all organizations decided a woman's place is in the home and that all athletic trophies and all mega million dollar athletic salaries should go to genetic males and to prove their total male supremacy view that all biological men are superior to women - even superior at being women.
 
Women's athletics has been abolished from the Olympics - though they lie denying it.

A person may either enter exclusively male athletic competition OR enter open-to-all mixed-sex athletic competition open to both biological males and females.

There are no female athletic Olympics categories anymore. The Olympic's transgender advisor (a biological male wearing a dress and wig claiming to be female) convinced that in the future all trophies in all categories should go to biological males - to take the Olympics back to the social values of ancient Greece with all competitions only for men.

It was not until 2004 that there were women's events in all categories. Progressive fascist psychologically disturbed men who are covertly motivated desiring to prove genetic males should have all athletic awards and salaries - using men who cleverly take advantage of the grotesque allowance of males to cheating want to set back women's rights a thousand years.

It only too 25 years for the male dominated Democratic Party to evolve to declaring that men are superior at everything - even superior at being women - outraged that some women actually were making an income in professional athletics as they believe 100% professional athletics income should go exclusively to genetic males.

The progressives (ie fascists) War On Women continues. In fact, they have already reduced being a woman to hormones and what the person is externally wearing for clothing - the greatest possible sexification and trivialization of females.
 
joko104 said:
We personally attempt to protect endangers and at risk species. On our list are gopher tortoises.

On one of our properties, we have gopher tortoise burrows. There were 2 only a few feet from each other - one an adult male and the other adult female. The females are significantly larger. They often knock over males to keep them away. If knocked over on concrete or other smooth surface, the male tortoise is doomed unable to self right himself - thus both vulnerable to predators and dying of thirst, starvation or the elements.

That happened to the male. The female killed it by knocking it over on the driveway. We didn't know that had happened. The male could not grab onto anything with it's short clawed fee to flip itself over on the slippery, hard flat concrete. It appears to have been killed by a coyote or dog - though possibly a bird of prey given how many there are here.

According to those who believe steroids/hormones creates physical equality between male and female homo sapiens, even though physiologically different, then they also must be claiming we could save any and all male gopher tortoise by injection in tortoise estrogen - turning them 100% into the physical equals of the much larger females.

So my question is: Do ANY of you REALLY believe that would work? That the males and females of species can be made physically equal in speed, strength and abilities merely by altering their adult chemistry? That is the claim about the homo sapien species - that an animal's physical abilities between males and females is singularly a matter of homo levels or other body chemistry. That female black widow spiders could not kill a smaller male merely by altering the male spider's body chemistry to female?
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Do you know how hormones work? They change a lot of the body when altered.
 
joko104 said:
What about female bone structure and proportion differences? Explain how a person with a male body (bones, center of gravity, hip structure, leg to height wide - for starters - metamorphs into female. The male's legs get shorter and spine longer, his hips get wider and his muscles restructure themselves.

Any of you who claim injecting female hormones causes the adult human body to completely restructure itself to male homo sapien structure please give an example of that actually happening to any biological male in the known history of the human race - and how long of time do you believe it takes for that to have completely happened?

That some 6'2 male who was born of female psychology went on female hormones - resulting in his legs becoming 4 inches short, with his spine shrinking only 1 inch and the diameter of his hip bone widen by 3 inches? Please document this as it is the claim of most Democrats on this forum - that hormones can make everyone physically identical in terms of their biological sex.
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Mh dont think having legs 4 inches short have much to do with it. Hell you have plenty of height and size differences between cis women. As to your questions i was responding to the claims made in the thread who have not met their burden of proof. Trans females are already competing.
 
bomberfox said:
Mh dont think having legs 4 inches short have much to do with it. Hell you have plenty of height and size differences between cis women. As to your questions i was responding to the claims made in the thread who have not met their burden of proof. Trans females are already competing.
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A one inch difference in the position of the navel makes a massive difference in swimming and running.

Being born a male has a massive difference vs females. It’s why you don’t see women compete against or with men at any half assed serious level. They’re two different worlds.
 
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