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    Re: Should Obama have withheld federal aid after the 2013 Moore tornado?

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Set new regulations requiring homes and businesses to be built underground. Tornado problem solved.

    If we go down this path of withholding aid, then any natural disaster should be included. An incomplete list would include earthquakes, floods, hurricanes, fires, etc. Then maybe we should include when a gas or chemical plant explodes and damages or pollutes an area. Bottom line, crap can happen. The feds and states governments should help the public.
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    Re: Should Obama have withheld federal aid after the 2013 Moore tornado?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You don't believe the fires are mother nature's way of cleaning up deadfall?
    Absolutely fires clear deadfall. How much deadfall was in the fire area approaching the Reagan library?
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    Re: Should Obama have withheld federal aid after the 2013 Moore tornado?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The fires in Cali are preventable. But, due to mismanagement by the government, it doesn't happen.
    The amount of people those fires affect can be mitigated by people not building houses over and over again in an area they know ill burn sooner or later.

    Those people should be on their own if a fire takes them out.

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    Re: Should Obama have withheld federal aid after the 2013 Moore tornado?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    The amount of people those fires affect can be mitigated by people not building houses over and over again in an area they know ill burn sooner or later.

    Those people should be on their own if a fire takes them out.
    Fire breaks and brush clearing would go a long way to prevent houses from being destroyed. In California, it's illegal clear brush, cut trees, etc. On one's private property.
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    Re: Should Obama have withheld federal aid after the 2013 Moore tornado?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They're absolutely preventable.
    PG&E admits equipment may have sparked several fires this year - Los Angeles Times

    Seems to me the fires are a result of the privatization of public utilities. They don't upgrade or maintain their equipment. On top of which, the federal government has control in these forest areas, not California.

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    Re: Should Obama have withheld federal aid after the 2013 Moore tornado?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dans La Lune View Post
    PG&E admits equipment may have sparked several fires this year - Los Angeles Times

    Seems to me the fires are a result of the privatization of public utilities. They don't upgrade or maintain their equipment. On top of which, the federal government has control in these forest areas, not California.

    How embarrassing for you.
    First off,

    PG&E is overseen by the California Public Utilities Commission.

    Pacific Gas and Electric Company - Wikipedia
    Second, the state doesn't allow brush to be cleared a safe distance away from power lines.
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    Re: Should Obama have withheld federal aid after the 2013 Moore tornado?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dans La Lune View Post
    PG&E admits equipment may have sparked several fires this year - Los Angeles Times

    Seems to me the fires are a result of the privatization of public utilities. They don't upgrade or maintain their equipment. On top of which, the federal government has control in these forest areas, not California.

    How embarrassing for you.
    First off,

    PG&E is overseen by the California Public Utilities Commission.

    Pacific Gas and Electric Company - Wikipedia
    Second, the state doesn't allow brush to be cleared a safe distance away from power lines.
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    Re: Should Obama have withheld federal aid after the 2013 Moore tornado?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Some of our rightists believe that Trump is in the right to withhold federal aid from places if he feels like it. So let's take him out of the equation for a bit and consider the 2013 Moore, Oklahoma tornado. It caused massive devastation to the tune $2 billion to a suburb of Oklahoma City, which is right in the heart of tornado alley and is going to see this kind of thing again (in fact the region did eleven days later). Some of the structures were not well-built, including two schools which were in session when they were struck.

    Furthermore, Oklahoma is a red state--it was the only state in the 2008 election where every county voted for the Republican over Obama. They repeated this feat in 2012. During his presidency, Republicans hammered Obama for alleged out-of-control expansion of government powers and spending.

    Should Obama have used these as excuses for not helping out the people of Moore with federal aid?
    If he thought Moore, Oklahoma bore some responsibility for tornado prevention and further thought they were failing to uphold that responsibility, then the argument could be made to withhold funding. Are you making the argument that states and cities are responsible for tornado prevention and/or control?
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    Re: Should Obama have withheld federal aid after the 2013 Moore tornado?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    First off,



    Second, the state doesn't allow brush to be cleared a safe distance away from power lines.
    Do you think you refuted any of my points? Just curious.
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