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Would you support an attempted civil war if Trump is convicted by the Senate?

Would you support an attempted civil war if Trump is convicted by the Senate?

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beancounter said:
Are you serious?...

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Yes, he is dead serious.
You can show him proof that he's dead wrong and nothing will change.
At this stage the only thing hardcore Trumpers can do is hold their hands over their ears and scream
"LA LA LA LA LA I can't HEAAAAARRRR YOU!!"

He's been shown that and numerous other graphics so many times I have lost count.
We could intaglio it on his forehead and nothing would change.

Goebbels technique - straight up.
 
I answered OTHER because of course HELL NO I will NOT support a civil war.
But if one breaks out, I'm prepared to defend myself and my loved ones in more ways than one.
 
I would not support a civil war, however we the people need to band togeather and and get these criminals out of Washingtonand into jail. I am so shocked at the crimes these people are commiting and not a single thing is being done. I am shocked at what comes out of there mouths on tv that our kids are hearing, i am shocked that the only moral code some of them have are we will be there for the illegal immigrants even if they murder or are part of the worse gang in America responsible for torcher killing kids and dismembering their bodys, im sick of all the dividing of Americans all them are preaching, im sic of payng taxes so congress can make 175000 a year to do nothing to help our country or very little. And im tired of wondering if all this drama and fighting and deviding is just a smoke screen. Makeing us all look right and working secretly to the left. And if they are doing this, how much do i need to worry. Some of these leaders are bad people and whats scary is they have no accountabiliy at all. And we all do nothing. Some how we need to change this it is insane.

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Bullseye said:
But, it seems that most organized violence actually comes from the other direction: the LEFT. We don't have crowds of conservatives harassing lefties in public places or even at their homes. We don't have conservatives attacking people - including kids and the elderly - for wearing an article of clothing - nor do we have conservatives donning black clothing and masked to attack Dem supporters while local cobs stand down.

I'd be far more concerned about violence if Trump does get impeached and found innocent or if he wins next November.
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Wrong again, Bullseye

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Tryingtogetit said:
I would not support a civil war, however we the people need to band togeather and and get these criminals out of Washingtonand into jail. I am so shocked at the crimes these people are commiting and not a single thing is being done. I am shocked at what comes out of there mouths on tv that our kids are hearing, i am shocked that the only moral code some of them have are we will be there for the illegal immigrants even if they murder or are part of the worse gang in America responsible for torcher killing kids and dismembering their bodys, im sick of all the dividing of Americans all them are preaching, im sic of payng taxes so congress can make 175000 a year to do nothing to help our country or very little. And im tired of wondering if all this drama and fighting and deviding is just a smoke screen. Makeing us all look right and working secretly to the left. And if they are doing this, how much do i need to worry. Some of these leaders are bad people and whats scary is they have no accountabiliy at all. And we all do nothing. Some how we need to change this it is insane.

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“Torcher” “Bodys” :roll:
 
Risky Thicket said:
Lately we've heard a few people mention the possibility of civil war in the US if Trump is convicted by the Senate. I don't personally know anyone who believes Trump's conviction by the Senate would result in a civil war, but I have a read where some have said a civil war might happen.

If Trump's conviction in the Senate is answered by organized violence would you support it?
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Of course I would support the Trump Stupids rising up in a rebellion if their chosen one should, by some, however highly unlikely chance, be Constitutionally convicted on Articles of Impeachment in the United States Senate and removed from office and removed from the White House.

I would love to see the Trump Stupids playing out their little rebellious games as some sort of neo-confederates.

I would love to see them killed off en masse by our military wherever they would try to mass to attack our Nation.

The nation could use a good cleansing of the Trump Stupids!
 
TurtleDude said:
you, and others who scream for impeachment, have been whining about Trump before he took office so your claims about your reasons are specious. You all couldn't handle the fact that your glorious leader lost
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:lamo :lamo :lamo

Oh the delicious ironies in that post!

Oh so sweet!

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i would have to decide if i want to live in a country with people who are so stupid that they would ruin it over a moronic, spray painted gameshow host. transfer to a sane country is an option, though being away from family would be heartbreaking. that is a big part of why i don't leave my current red state.
 
Helix said:
i would have to decide if i want to live in a country with people who are so stupid that they would ruin it over a moronic, spray painted gameshow host. transfer to a sane country is an option, though being away from family would be heartbreaking. that is a big part of why i don't leave my current red state.
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Unfortunately there are some Trump Stupids in my family, and one of which that I have little doubt who would join in a shooting type Trump rebellion, and others who would support such a rebellion. They are unabashedly and hopelessly devoted to Donald Trump.
 
Lutherf said:
If he's convicted for what? That would be rather important in such a decision.
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Beating Hillary and setting the march forward toward socialism back at least a few years. That's his only crime.
 
LouC said:
:lamo :lamo :lamo

Oh the delicious ironies in that post!

Oh so sweet!

:2wave:
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that makes no sense. and you want a civil war if Trump is impeached? interesting
 
TheParser said:
1. Of course, I would NOT support violence.

2. I am 82 years old. So I remember the murders of several prominent people. Most people were sad, but they certainly did not engage in any violence as revenge.

3. I was in Los Angeles during the riots during the early 1990s when some cops were acquitted of beating someone.

a. Most of the rioters were just intent on stealing merchandise. They could not have cared less about "injustice."

4. If President Trump is convicted, many of us will be disappointed that his enemies (and the enemies of democracy) will have succeeded in their coup d'état, but I do not have any personal affection for President Trump. He has not been a role model for future presidents.

5. Of course, there will be bitterness. And only God (AKA Fate) knows what the eventual consequences will be. I hope, of course, that the leaders of the coup get their (non-violent) comeuppance in some form that one cannot currently imagine.
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A coup is an illegal, violent takeover of a government. This would not fit that definition even if Trump is convicted. Impeachment, followed by vote to remove from office is quite legal and in no way violent.
 
roguenuke said:
A coup is an illegal, violent takeover of a government. This would not fit that definition even if Trump is convicted. Impeachment, followed by vote to remove from office is quite legal and in no way violent.
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Indeed.

The only coup the United States has had was in 2016 by Putin and Russia.
 
Moderate Right said:
Sorry, but it is YOUR side the country has to worry about.

Nancy Pelosi & Trump Impeachment -- Partisan Hate Is Becoming a National Crisis | National Review
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The most Partisan hate is from those who are anti-Democrat. Most people who are Never-Trumpers are in fact conservative, Republicans and even moderates and Independents. It is those who are anti-Democrat at any price, no matter what the person is doing to support that are the most highly partisan people in this country. Yes, there are plenty on the left who are anti-Republican. But they don't come close to anti-Democrats.

Political Polarization in the American Public | Pew Research Center

Note which side views the other side as an actual threat to the nation's wellbeing more. And antipathy towards the other side.

There are far fewer people being called traitors and far fewer calling someone a traitor, currently, on the left than the right (or more precisely, anti-Democrats).
 
Tangmo said:
Indeed.

The only coup the United States has had was in 2016 by Putin and Russia.
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No, even that wasn't a coup. Simply unethical, illegal involvement to try to influence our elections. It should be a huge concern for this election and should be addressed, but it does not fit the definition either of a coup.
 
LouC said:
Unfortunately there are some Trump Stupids in my family, and one of which that I have little doubt who would join in a shooting type Trump rebellion, and others who would support such a rebellion. They are unabashedly and hopelessly devoted to Donald Trump.
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if it happens, we'll all suffer significantly. our enemies won't sit idly by and wait to see who is victorious. they will swarm like vultures.

it is truly sad that so many people are so willfully stupid. this is a significant part of why i strongly support education and educators.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Lately we've heard a few people mention the possibility of civil war in the US if Trump is convicted by the Senate. I don't personally know anyone who believes Trump's conviction by the Senate would result in a civil war, but I have a read where some have said a civil war might happen.

If Trump's conviction in the Senate is answered by organized violence would you support it?
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I would rather take back our country by continuing to replace party puppets bought and paid for by the rich and powerful with independents and candidates funded by the people. I think if their coup is successful the rich and powerful may accelerate that process which is already underway. The biggest obstacles stopping candidates of the people is our media which is owned by a handful of the rich and powerful and the federal reserve which controls the worlds money. They have used both effectively to keep us divided and focusing hate towards each other while letting them control our government.
 
LouC said:
Odd the U.S. Northern Command would post this document on their website on September 23, 2019.

The Posse Comitatus Act
Sept. 23, 2019

The Posse Comitatus Act > U.S. Northern Command > Article View
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While you haven't stated your take on your keen observation of the Northcom publication of the Posse Comitatus Act at its website, my take on Northcom publishing it at this time is to admonish the commander in chief to keep hands off the US military in domestic affairs.

Northcom at Peterson AFB in Colorado is responsible for the defense of the continental United States. Northcom consists primarily of the 5th Army and the 1st Air Force, to include the Military District of Washington DC and the Joint Force Headquarters National Capital Region.

The troops deployed to the southern border the past year-plus for instance consist of elements of Northcom, ie, of the 5th Army. The current Northcom CG, the 4-star AF Gen. Terrence O'Shaughnessy had been quietly returning some troops to their home bases late last year until Trump got wind of it and stopped it, ordering O'Shaughnessy to retain the force strength in place indefinitely.



The then Lt.-Col. Donald J. Currier advocated in his master's thesis at the Army War College that the SecDef seek repeal of the Posse Comitatus Act. Currier was an Army lawyer and an Infantry Battalion Law and Order Officer, commander of a Military Police Battalion and was Civil-Military Affairs Officer of the California Army National Guard.

Some orders, such as an order to kill unarmed civilians, are unlawful on their face. Others, like directly supporting law enforcement officers during times of emergency and confusion, are more problematic for the soldier in the field. Not only are the facts sometimes difficult to apply to the law, but also, intuitively, soldiers at ground level want to help. As a matter of public policy, America does not want commanders to question their orders to assist civil authorities. PCA interjects an unnecessary degree of confusion into already confusing situations.

The Secretary of Defense should immediately seek repeal of the PCA. If, as some have suggested, we are prepared simply to disregard the PCA in the future, we are inviting political harm for our leaders and potential personal civil and criminal liability for our soldiers. Worse yet, the Act will continue its chilling effect upon those who would act boldly, at the very moment when our national survival may depend on boldness.

https://publications.armywarcollege.edu/pubs/1556.pdf
 
roguenuke said:
The most Partisan hate is from those who are anti-Democrat. Most people who are Never-Trumpers are in fact conservative, Republicans and even moderates and Independents. It is those who are anti-Democrat at any price, no matter what the person is doing to support that are the most highly partisan people in this country. Yes, there are plenty on the left who are anti-Republican. But they don't come close to anti-Democrats.

Political Polarization in the American Public | Pew Research Center

Note which side views the other side as an actual threat to the nation's wellbeing more. And antipathy towards the other side.

There are far fewer people being called traitors and far fewer calling someone a traitor, currently, on the left than the right (or more precisely, anti-Democrats).
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Apparently you didn't read my link. You are wrong.
 
TurtleDude said:
that makes no sense. and you want a civil war if Trump is impeached? interesting
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Never said I wanted a Civil War, I voted in the Poll that I would support one, if Obese Donald is convicted in the Senate on Articles of Impeachment and The Trump Stupids rose up as a result.

There is a difference between want and support.

I am not surprised my post about the delicious ironies made no sense to you.

If what you posted had made any sense to you, well, I don't think you would have posted it.

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roguenuke said:
No, even that wasn't a coup. Simply unethical, illegal involvement to try to influence our elections. It should be a huge concern for this election and should be addressed, but it does not fit the definition either of a coup.
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A coup is not necessarily a violent act to repeal and replace a government in power.

The term "bloodless coup" has long been in coinage and practice. Peaceful coup is another well known fact.

Coup d'etat is a swift and sudden action of state. There isn't anything in the term that says violence, although a number of exclusively military coups involve violence. Other coups do not, nor is a coup necessarily a military act of violence or executed by the military only.

Turkey had a peaceful coup in 1997 for instance when the military, civilian leaders of the public and private sectors to include business leaders, academics and religious personages and so on removed the government by demanding that it resign, which is what the government did do. A transition government was established that was a reasonable cross section of the society, elections were scheduled and held.

In Australia in 1975 the governor general who represents the sovereignty of the queen over Australia dissolved the government. The GG established an interim government under the authority of the queen that scheduled elections in which the opposition was elected to form a new government.

Portugal in 1974 experienced the "Captain's Revolt" that without a shot being fired ejected the right wing generals and the dictator-tyrant Salazar whose long time buddy Francisco Franco died the following year. (I remember the Johnny Carson joke of good news-bad news: "The good news is that Franco is dead. The bad news is that somebody's got to tell him.")

There are many more instances of the peaceful coup d'etat. And as I'd pointed out, the US election of 2016 was a coup executed by Putin and Russian state intelligence with US domestic active participation. We've seen and experienced the extremely negative consequences since to include the evidence and the proof.

In a coup violence is but an option that is employed too often but not necessarily.
 
Old 'N Chill said:
I agree, more fear tactics, threats and false promises on the defend Trump no matter what....or else pack. This is what they represent, this is the kind of thing that myself and most thinking Americans are disgusted by. What is America turning into? Dare to do anything against the Dictator in Chief? :roll:
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Not all. But when you disrupt our government with a coup for over 2 years when there never was any collusion by Trump and the Russians don't expect the people who were looking forward to things getting done to be supportive.
 
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