Is this a girl?

[zimmer]

Ms. Georgulas has effectively been granted authority to move forward with puberty blockers, which can cause chemical castration, and, potentially, hormones, if she so chooses.

Mr. Younger will also be forced to “affirm” his son’s new gender identity: a girl named “Luna.”


“Every. Single. Day. You have to see your son sexually abused, and you have to maintain your calm,” the Texas father said during the January podcast, “because the courts are not going to be fair to you.

And the only way you can survive this and get your son through this alive is to calmly allow your son to be tortured right before your eyes and outlast the opposition. That’s what it’s like.”
“They’re asking me to affirm a delusion,” he noted.
Video: James Younger, At Age 3, To Dad: Mommy Tells Me I'''m A Girl | The Daily Wire

The mother is naming her son after her... “Lunatic”.”

 

[Phys251]

The mother is naming her son after her... “Lunatic”.”

Why the **** are you so concerned with what a three-year old who isn't even your child has between their legs??

 

[americanwoman]

The mother is naming her son after her... “Lunatic”.”

The mother sounds like she needs help and if his allegations are true, she's the one who needs to be locked up and her child taken away.

his ex-wife “was putting my son into time-outs and she would lock him in his room and say that monsters only eat boys.”

 

[Slartibartfast]

The mother is naming her son after her... “Lunatic”.”

you are asking the wrong question. Does the kid need to live with dad while mom gets therapy? would be more realistic.

 

[VanceMack]

Why the **** are you so concerned with what a three-year old who isn't even your child has between their legs??

I believe the concern is that the 3 year old is now 7, the subject of a national news story, and by accounts violently reacts to being forced by his mother to wear dresses and makeup and act like a girl...a mother that has decided a long time ago to use the child as a weapon against her ex-husband and is far less concerned about the health and emotional well being of the child than she is about using the child to hurt the ex-husband. The concern is that vecause of a recent court decision the mother now has the sole decision...not the father and not even the child...to begin a chemical castration process that will prevent him from fully developing the male genetic characteristics he was born with.

We care about this for the same reason we care about all human interest stories. Because it is a topic indicating trend.

There ARE some things NOT well reported in this case. The father doesnt do himself or his son any favors with videos like this because it can be seen as manipulative and destructive as the mothers actions. Both the mother and the father should agree to support the developing child and not force opinions on him either way....bu they damn sure shouldnt be forcing or coercing a kid that is at an age where they typically change their mind a dozen times in a week as to what they want to be for Halloween to make choices or decisions to please two parents that are obviously the most screwed up humans in the story.

 

[Phys251]

I believe the concern is that the 3 year old is now 7, the subject of a national news story, and by accounts violently reacts to being forced by his mother to wear dresses and makeup and act like a girl...

Then that would be a consent violation. Issue addressed. Exactly when did you conservatives gain the moral high ground on consent? :lol:

 

[VanceMack]

you are asking the wrong question. Does the kid need to live with dad while mom gets therapy? would be more realistic.

Both mom and dad need therapy. I'm not sure either are exactly healthy at this point.

 

[VanceMack]

Then that would be a consent violation. Issue addressed. Exactly when did you conservatives gain the moral high ground on consent? :lol:

Considering your only thoughts in any discussion is "how can I make this fit my petty cause", I'd say you dont have much room to talk. And since you obviously dont know the first thing about this topic or what you are on about here other than your typical ridiculous mindless left/right bull****, Id say we are pretty much done.

 

[Phys251]

Considering your only thoughts in any discussion is "how can I make this fit my petty cause",

:lamo

Unlike you, I actually look at these kinds of cases to see what is really going on here. Gender is an identity determined solely by the individual, not by anyone else, whether that be a parent or an internet troll.

I'd say you dont have much room to talk. And since you obviously dont know the first thing about this topic or what you are on about here other than your typical ridiculous mindless left/right bull****, Id say we are pretty much done.

So no, you have no argument against the implication that your side struggles with consent. I accept your surrender. :thumbs:

 

[chuckiechan]

Then that would be a consent violation. Issue addressed. Exactly when did you conservatives gain the moral high ground on consent? :lol:

Seven year old have no rights to consent.

Regardless of which direction anyone thinks this kid is going, he should be left alone to go there. Sexual growth should not be a spectator sport.

 

[Irredentist]

Seven year old have no rights to consent.

Regardless of which direction anyone thinks this kid is going, he should be left alone to go there. Sexual growth should not be a spectator sport.

What exactly is "gender affirmation" if it isn't allowing the kid to grow however they want to grow?

 

[Phys251]

Seven year old have no rights to consent.

:shock: WHAT?!? :shock:

 

[Visbek]

The mother sounds like she needs help and if his allegations are true, she's the one who needs to be locked up and her child taken away.

Yeah, maybe not.

The source for the article is the Daily Wire, an extreme right-wing media source with a less than stellar record when it comes to factual reporting (The Daily Wire - Media Bias/Fact Check). This is obvious in just this article alone, as they uncritically present only the father's side of the story.

DW also "somehow" failed to state that
• Luna is now 7, not 3
• the mother is a pediatrician
• she was given full custody by a Dallas jury, despite the father's claims
• therapists recommended accepting Luna's gender dysphoria
• Luna's therapists testified in court
• the mother is NOT seeking medical intervention at this time; medical intervention is probably at least 5 years off
UPDATED: Dallas Jury Grants Mother Sole Custody of Purported Transgender Child | The Texan
Hearing in Custody Battle Over Alleged Transgender Seven-Year-Old Will Resume Next Week | The Texan

 

[Irredentist]

The mother is naming her son after her... “Lunatic”.”

The level of exaggeration here is astounding. The mother has not even expressed a desire to medically treat her child. The only thing that has happened is "gender affirmation" because it was actually the kid who first expressed a desire to be a girl, and was then diagnosed with gender dysphoria by a therapist. Not the mother.

 

[Fenton]

The level of exaggeration here is astounding. The mother has not even expressed a desire to medically treat her child. The only thing that has happened is "gender affirmation" because it was actually the kid who first expressed a desire to be a girl, and was then diagnosed with gender dysphoria by a therapist. Not the mother.

He's 7 years old and first expressed a desire to be a girl when he was 5.
My son wanted to be a Transformer when he was around that age and both my daughters wanted to be princesses.

 

[Slartibartfast]

He's 7 years old and first expressed a desire to be a girl when he was 5.
My son wanted to be a Transformer when he was around that age and both my daughters wanted to be princesses.

I still think it would be cool to be a transformer...

 

[MrWonka]

The mother is naming her son after her... “Lunatic”.”

Just some things you've conveniently left out...

the mother does not plan on giving James hormone blockers at this time.

On Monday, a consensus of 11 of the 12 jurors in a Dallas court ruled against granting Younger

The jury “voted that the current Joint Managing Conservatorship should be replaced by a Sole Managing Conservatorship, but that Mr. Younger should not be that person

So when 11 out of 12 peers listened to the fine details of both the mother and the father's side of the story 11 out of 12 agreed with the mother. This isn't some activist judge who is unilaterally deciding this. These are average people. People from Texas no less. There is no rational reason to think that 11 out of 12 jurors would give full custody to the mother and take it away from the man unless there was a valid reason for thinking the father was the one with the issues.

You really don't seem to have any clue how gender works. Nothing this woman is doing is dangerous or threatening to her child. It sounds to me like the father is the one hell bent on turning is son into some kind of prototype male.

 

[MrWonka]

He's 7 years old and first expressed a desire to be a girl when he was 5.
My son wanted to be a Transformer when he was around that age and both my daughters wanted to be princesses.

And did you force your son to go as a ninja turtle for Halloween instead? Did you force your daughters to go as witches? Gonna go out on a limb and say you took your son to see the Transformer movies and bought your daughters tiaras.

If you're so confident they'll grow out of it then there's no reason not to let them be what they want to be as kids.

 

[americanwoman]

Yeah, maybe not.

The source for the article is the Daily Wire, an extreme right-wing media source with a less than stellar record when it comes to factual reporting (The Daily Wire - Media Bias/Fact Check). This is obvious in just this article alone, as they uncritically present only the father's side of the story.

DW also "somehow" failed to state that
• Luna is now 7, not 3
• the mother is a pediatrician
• she was given full custody by a Dallas jury, despite the father's claims
• therapists recommended accepting Luna's gender dysphoria
• Luna's therapists testified in court
• the mother is NOT seeking medical intervention at this time; medical intervention is probably at least 5 years off
UPDATED: Dallas Jury Grants Mother Sole Custody of Purported Transgender Child | The Texan
Hearing in Custody Battle Over Alleged Transgender Seven-Year-Old Will Resume Next Week | The Texan

A judge would have more information and would hopefully make the right choice.

As much as the father claims the kid was being rehearsed by the mother to say those things, he could have rehearsed it to his favor as well.

 

[mrjurrs]

Considering your only thoughts in any discussion is "how can I make this fit my petty cause", I'd say you dont have much room to talk. And since you obviously dont know the first thing about this topic or what you are on about here other than your typical ridiculous mindless left/right bull****, Id say we are pretty much done.

Kind of a standard conservative response when their hypocrisy is called out. Why don't you respond to his question?

 

[SDET]

Because it's another leak in the dam in the destruction of Western civilization. I still wonder who will rule those former societies once they disintegrate.

Why the **** are you so concerned with what a three-year old who isn't even your child has between their legs??

 

[Acadia]

Why the **** are you so concerned with what a three-year old who isn't even your child has between their legs??

Civilized society is and should always be concerned for the safety and welfare of ALL children.

 

[mrjurrs]

The mother is naming her son after her... “Lunatic”.”

In what world is this any of your business? The case is in the judicial system, there is oversight, and you have no idea what the actual situation is.

 

[Visbek]

A judge would have more information and would hopefully make the right choice.

Why would the judge presiding over the court have more information than the jury? They all heard the same witnesses, they all had access to the same information.

Are you assuming that the jury made the wrong choice, even though none of us have heard any of the testimony in the case?

 

[Acadia]

He's 7 years old and first expressed a desire to be a girl when he was 5.
My son wanted to be a Transformer when he was around that age and both my daughters wanted to be princesses.

I think the mother started dressing him up and putting on makeup and false eyelashes at 3.