Removal from Office

code1211 said:

Oh, I have no doubt that eventually the Democrat-Socialists will produce some kind of red meat for the deranged sheeple that bleat for it.

Then Trump will not be convicted in the Senate, he'll carry 50 states, the Dem-Socs will lose the House and the GOP will extend their majority in the Senate. Following that, the SC will be constructionist for the next 30 years.

All in all, this impeachment crap will be good for the country. So... There's that...

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And then I get a unicorn. Lol

Predictions!!!!!!!

rickc said:

Well as the evidence mounts impeachment is a sure thing. Question is will the Republicans in the senate vote to remove trump from office.

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Not yet.

The GOsleaze Party hasn't the spine to vote the criminal our.

code1211 said:

You point to the obvious differences in the approaches taken by the run of the Democrat-Socialist and the run of the mill Trump supporter.

When Trump talks to a peer from a different country, some are only "concerned" while others scream, "This is worse than Watergate!" Both are overreacting.

The run of the mill Trump supporter says pretty clearly what the real situation is. That is why "said to have" "could be" are appropriate.

Did I talk about CT? What is CT?

When a criminal investigation begins, it is because a crime is evident and the search for the perpetrator is under way.

What I do have is a mind and the ability to understand that the IG conducted an internal investigation, the AG appointed a prosecutor to investigate criminal actions uncovered and Durham has opened a criminal investigation based on the evidence.

What the co-conspitators from the Obama administration have is legal representation. probably a good choice on their individual and collective parts.

It doesn't matter if I have the evidence to convict. It only matters if Durham has the evidence to convict. These traitorous a-holes are going to be flipping like coins at college kick-offs on Saturday afternoon.

It'll be amusing watching the reactions 0f the folks who only get their news from NBC and the rest as they wonder why everyone is indicted and then going to jail. No crimes were reported. What's happening?

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“You point to the obvious differences in the approaches taken by the run of the Democrat-Socialist and the run of the mill Trump supporter.”

Dem-Soc, being but very few, are not representative of the run-of-the-mill opposing Trump and supporting democracy and improving society, something the Trumpsters clearly oppose.

“When Trump talks to a peer from a different country, some are only "concerned" while others scream, "This is worse than Watergate!" Both are overreacting.”

You’re characterize a “talk to a peer” when it was actually a shakedown for personal gain. Besides, except for his idolizing dictators, Trump sees no peer before Him.

“The run of the mill Trump supporter says pretty clearly what the real situation is. That is why "said to have" "could be" are appropriate.”

There is nothing “real” about such oblique terminology.

“Did I talk about CT? What is CT?”

Conspiracy Theory. Many Trumpsters suffer from CT.

“When a criminal investigation begins, it is because a crime is evident and the search for the perpetrator is under way.”

What is the crime and what evidence?

“What I do have is a mind and the ability to understand that the IG conducted an internal investigation, the AG appointed a prosecutor to investigate criminal actions uncovered and Durham has opened a criminal investigation based on the evidence.”

What crime and what evidence?

“What the co-conspitators from the Obama administration have is legal representation. probably a good choice on their individual and collective parts.”

Who have been named as co-conspirators?

“It doesn't matter if I have the evidence to convict. It only matters if Durham has the evidence to convict. These traitorous a-holes are going to be flipping like coins at college kick-offs on Saturday afternoon.”

I see. So, no evidence needs be shown for impeaching Trump, either. It just matters that it is there somewhere, like with your scenario. Kept secret, like the evidence against Trump. Yeah, right.

“It'll be amusing watching the reactions 0f the folks who only get their news from NBC and the rest as they wonder why everyone is indicted and then going to jail. No crimes were reported. What's happening?”

What’s happening is, besides those already gone to jail, Trump is going down, hard, and those lackeys that let themselves be conned by him are going down, too.

code1211 said:

The problem demonstrated by the frantic and likely illegal gyrations and rules perversions by the Democrat-Socialists in the House is that they will not control the House in 2021. They need to act quickly by any means needed.

Democrats will lose the House in 2020, Trump will carry 50 states and the GOP will extend their majority in the Senate. Pursuant to all of that, the Supreme Court will be Constructionist for 30 years.

Turns out this impeachment crap is working out to be a good thing for the country.

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So the response to that threat is to:

1. Impeach Trump.

2. Convict him in the Senate and remove him from office

3. Expand the voting franchise to all people living in the USA legally and allow same day voter enrollment to help ensure maximum voter turnout

4. Consider compulsory voting like Australia to maximize the turnout

5. Ensure the House and Senate maintain a permanent Democratic majority

6. With the transition of Texas to an majority Hispanic speaking blue state - ensure that the current incumbent in the White House is the last EVER Republican president

vegas giants said:

And then I get a unicorn. Lol

Predictions!!!!!!!

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Glad I could make you laugh. Democrat Socialists are routinely dower and pessimistic curmudgeons with so little joy in your lives.

Spreading joy is duty I embrace.

code1211 said:

Glad I could make you laugh. Democrat Socialists are routinely dower and pessimistic curmudgeons with so little joy in your lives.

Spreading joy is duty I embrace.

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I have never seen more cranky Americans than Republicans

bluesmoke said:

“You point to the obvious differences in the approaches taken by the run of the Democrat-Socialist and the run of the mill Trump supporter.”

Dem-Soc, being but very few, are not representative of the run-of-the-mill opposing Trump and supporting democracy and improving society, something the Trumpsters clearly oppose.

“When Trump talks to a peer from a different country, some are only "concerned" while others scream, "This is worse than Watergate!" Both are overreacting.”

You’re characterize a “talk to a peer” when it was actually a shakedown for personal gain. Besides, except for his idolizing dictators, Trump sees no peer before Him.

“The run of the mill Trump supporter says pretty clearly what the real situation is. That is why "said to have" "could be" are appropriate.”

There is nothing “real” about such oblique terminology.

“Did I talk about CT? What is CT?”

Conspiracy Theory. Many Trumpsters suffer from CT.

“When a criminal investigation begins, it is because a crime is evident and the search for the perpetrator is under way.”

What is the crime and what evidence?

“What I do have is a mind and the ability to understand that the IG conducted an internal investigation, the AG appointed a prosecutor to investigate criminal actions uncovered and Durham has opened a criminal investigation based on the evidence.”

What crime and what evidence?

“What the co-conspitators from the Obama administration have is legal representation. probably a good choice on their individual and collective parts.”

Who have been named as co-conspirators?

“It doesn't matter if I have the evidence to convict. It only matters if Durham has the evidence to convict. These traitorous a-holes are going to be flipping like coins at college kick-offs on Saturday afternoon.”

I see. So, no evidence needs be shown for impeaching Trump, either. It just matters that it is there somewhere, like with your scenario. Kept secret, like the evidence against Trump. Yeah, right.

“It'll be amusing watching the reactions 0f the folks who only get their news from NBC and the rest as they wonder why everyone is indicted and then going to jail. No crimes were reported. What's happening?”

What’s happening is, besides those already gone to jail, Trump is going down, hard, and those lackeys that let themselves be conned by him are going down, too.

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I highlighted the only part of your post that breaks new ground.

What was the personal gain enjoyed by Trump resulting from this phone call?

The Ukrainian president said he didn't feel any pressure to do anything. Trump said he didn't ask for anything. Both agree there was no "this for that" stated or implied or inferred in the conversation.

Trump provided the aid that was due with none of the threats imagined by the folks that don't see the Biden confession and the resulting bragging as a Quid Pro Quo.

Biden's portrayal of his conversation demonstrates the dictionary definition of a Quid Pro Quo. Trump's conversation bears no similarity to Biden's. This is not rocket science.

Still, it has the Democrat-Socialists and their media allies stumped. Just another symptom of Trump derangement syndrome.

There seems to be an inverse relationship between cognitive abilities and hatred for Trump. Of course, hate is always an intelligence diminisher. It's just how it works.

code1211 said:

I highlighted the only part of your post that breaks new ground.

What was the personal gain enjoyed by Trump resulting from this phone call?

The Ukrainian president said he didn't feel any pressure to do anything. Trump said he didn't ask for anything. Both agree there was no "this for that" stated or implied or inferred in the conversation.

Trump provided the aid that was due with none of the threats imagined by the folks that don't see the Biden confession and the resulting bragging as a Quid Pro Quo.

Biden's portrayal of his conversation demonstrates the dictionary definition of a Quid Pro Quo. Trump's conversation bears no similarity to Biden's. This is not rocket science.

Still, it has the Democrat-Socialists and their media allies stumped. Just another symptom of Trump derangement syndrome.

There seems to be an inverse relationship between cognitive abilities and hatred for Trump. Of course, hate is always an intelligence diminishes. It's just how it works.

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Attempted extortion by trump is a felony

Rich2018 said:

So the response to that threat is to:

1. Impeach Trump.

2. Convict him in the Senate and remove him from office

3. Expand the voting franchise to all people living in the USA legally and allow same day voter enrollment to help ensure maximum voter turnout

4. Consider compulsory voting like Australia to maximize the turnout

5. Ensure the House and Senate maintain a permanent Democratic majority

6. With the transition of Texas to an majority Hispanic speaking blue state - ensure that the current incumbent in the White House is the last EVER Republican president

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vegas giants said:

I have never seen more cranky Americans than Republicans

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People get cranky when confronted by obstinate stupidity.

vegas giants said:

Attempted extortion by trump is a felony

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Ken Starr forwarded the evidence of 11 Felonies committed by Clinton to the Congress. Clinton was impeached and disbarred.

You say that Trump committed extortion.

Link?

code1211 said:

People get cranky when confronted by obstinate stupidity.

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Obstinate stupidity is the gop platform

code1211 said:

Ken Starr forwarded the evidence of 11 Felonies committed by Clinton to the Congress. Clinton was impeached and disbarred.

You say that Trump committed extortion.

Link?

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You also will see that when the articles of impeachment are announced

rickc said:

Well as the evidence mounts impeachment is a sure thing. Question is will the Republicans in the senate vote to remove trump from office.

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Impeachment was a sure thing with or without evidence. They're just going through the motions.

Tlrmln said:

Impeachment was a sure thing with or without evidence. They're just going through the motions.

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But the evidence makes it nice

code1211 said:

I highlighted the only part of your post that breaks new ground.

What was the personal gain enjoyed by Trump resulting from this phone call?

The Ukrainian president said he didn't feel any pressure to do anything. Trump said he didn't ask for anything. Both agree there was no "this for that" stated or implied or inferred in the conversation.

Trump provided the aid that was due with none of the threats imagined by the folks that don't see the Biden confession and the resulting bragging as a Quid Pro Quo.

Biden's portrayal of his conversation demonstrates the dictionary definition of a Quid Pro Quo. Trump's conversation bears no similarity to Biden's. This is not rocket science.

Still, it has the Democrat-Socialists and their media allies stumped. Just another symptom of Trump derangement syndrome.

There seems to be an inverse relationship between cognitive abilities and hatred for Trump. Of course, hate is always an intelligence diminisher. It's just how it works.

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“I highlighted the only part of your post that breaks new ground.”

“What was the personal gain enjoyed by Trump resulting from this phone call?”

You’re going over trod ground. Just because Trump got nothing doesn’t mean there wasn’t a shakedown. Besides, Zelenskyy could still try and do Trump’s bidding on Biden.

“The Ukrainian president said he didn't feel any pressure to do anything. Trump said he didn't ask for anything. Both agree there was no "this for that" stated or implied or inferred in the conversation.”

So, you’re asked if there was any “this for that” between you and the most powerful man on the planet, the Mafia Boss, on whom the existence of your country depends, and you, what, exuberantly jump up and down and say “Yes! Yes! He said I had to or I wouldn’t get what had been promised me by Congress to defend my country against the anti-democracy Russians!”. Yeah, that’s the ticket. Tell the truth. That’ll work.

“Trump provided the aid that was due with none of the threats imagined by the folks that don't see the Biden confession and the resulting bragging as a Quid Pro Quo.”

Trump didn’t provide the aid until the House starting investigating what was going on after having learned it was being held back. After long-time civil servants who knew better urged the money promised by Congress be released.

The Biden thing has been thoroughly debunked. You perpetuate a myth.

“Biden's portrayal of his conversation demonstrates the dictionary definition of a Quid Pro Quo. Trump's conversation bears no similarity to Biden's. This is not rocket science.”

Not rocket science, not a fizzie in a pop bottle, to have debunked the Biden thing.

"Still, it has the Democrat-Socialists and their media allies stumped. Just another symptom of Trump derangement syndrome."

There aren’t even a handful of Dem-Soc in the Dem party. You just crap in your own hand and throw that against the wall to see if that diarrhea sticks.

Funny. When I first heard the TDS term, I thought it meant Trumpsters and Trumpicans deranged by the flim-flam of Trump. Like I first thought that a politician being “transparent” meant it was obvious we could see “through” politician smokescreen, not that the politician was being open and clear. Go figure.



“There seems to be an inverse relationship between cognitive abilities and hatred for Trump. Of course, hate is always an intelligence diminisher. It's just how it works.”


Hate is an emotion, but does not diminish ABILITIES. It compromises them for the moment of the emotion when decision is made and acted upon. So, with that qualifier, I agree. Emotion, though, is a motivator where intelligence is simple a mode. Emotion is needed to prod action. That is why conservatives are so much better than lbrls, or Reps better than Dems, at taking outrageous action that WORKS. The visceral is a well-used tool of the Reps that is somewhat unfamiliar and clumsy to Dems. That’s why by the time Dems have thought something through, the Reps have already taken action and are steps ahead. In effect, emotion reigns over the cognitive.

vegas giants said:

Obstinate stupidity is the gop platform

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You mean the one that has created the economy with the best metrics in the history of mankind?

vegas giants said:

You also will see that when the articles of impeachment are announced

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The articles of impeachment do not require any factual basis.

Your beliefs seem to require no factual basis either.

Are you a product of our public schools?

Do you ever wonder WHY you believe the things that you believe?

bluesmoke said:

“I highlighted the only part of your post that breaks new ground.”


You’re going over trod ground. Just because Trump got nothing doesn’t mean there wasn’t a shakedown. Besides, Zelenskyy could still try and do Trump’s bidding on Biden.



So, you’re asked if there was any “this for that” between you and the most powerful man on the planet, the Mafia Boss, on whom the existence of your country depends, and you, what, exuberantly jump up and down and say “Yes! Yes! He said I had to or I wouldn’t get what had been promised me by Congress to defend my country against the anti-democracy Russians!”. Yeah, that’s the ticket. Tell the truth. That’ll work.


Trump didn’t provide the aid until the House starting investigating what was going on after having learned it was being held back. After long-time civil servants who knew better urged the money promised by Congress be released.

The Biden thing has been thoroughly debunked. You perpetuate a myth.



Not rocket science, not a fizzie in a pop bottle, to have debunked the Biden thing.



There aren’t even a handful of Dem-Soc in the Dem party. You just crap in your own hand and throw that against the wall to see if that diarrhea sticks.

Funny. When I first heard the TDS term, I thought it meant Trumpsters and Trumpicans deranged by the flim-flam of Trump. Like I first thought that a politician being “transparent” meant it was obvious we could see “through” politician smokescreen, not that the politician was being open and clear. Go figure.






Hate is an emotion, but does not diminish ABILITIES. It compromises them for the moment of the emotion when decision is made and acted upon. So, with that qualifier, I agree. Emotion, though, is a motivator where intelligence is simple a mode. Emotion is needed to prod action. That is why conservatives are so much better than lbrls, or Reps better than Dems, at taking outrageous action that WORKS. The visceral is a well-used tool of the Reps that is somewhat unfamiliar and clumsy to Dems. That’s why by the time Dems have thought something through, the Reps have already taken action and are steps ahead. In effect, emotion reigns over the cognitive.

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Edited for length. Sorry.

The highlighted part of your post indicates that you are prone to miscomprehension.

That whole thingy at the end is very convoluted. It makes no sense using the backdrop of the real world.

Regarding the title "Democrat-Socialists", there really isn't much difference between one group and the other. Warren, Sanders and Gabbard are all pretty much Socialists. That's 42% of the Dem-Soc Party.

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What part of the video taped confession and bragging by Biden describing the Quid Pro Quo authorized, according to him, by Obama has been debunked? Link?

There are actual real world facts in this. Obama refused in all cases, at all times, for all reasons, any military aid to Ukraine. Trump sent military aid. Them's the facts.

code1211 said:

Trump sent military aid. Them's the facts.

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After first withholding it and asking them for a political favor to benefit his own political campaign over the nation security of the USA and thereby broke the federal law.

haymarket said:

After first withholding it and asking them for a political favor to benefit his own political campaign over the nation security of the USA and thereby broke the federal law.

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Sorry Hay. You are making a seam of two different cloths. I am sure there were valid reasons to withhold aid. In the first place, aid is a gift not likely to be returned. I am not sure what the conditions were, but investigating Biden's greedy son wasn't likely the sole, or most important reason.
The President as Chief Executive has the responsibility to investigate crimes and the largesse from the blind eye Ukrainian government to a nonsensical choice of a board member smells worse than week old fish! Do you not care about previous crimes and influence peddling?
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concernedpuma said:

Sorry Hay. You are making a seam of two different cloths. I am sure there were valid reasons to withhold aid. In the first place, aid is a gift not likely to be returned. I am not sure what the conditions were, but investigating Biden's greedy son wasn't likely the sole, or most important reason.
The President as Chief Executive has the responsibility to investigate crimes and the largesse from the blind eye Ukrainian government to a nonsensical choice of a board member smells worse than week old fish! Do you not care about previous crimes and influence peddling?
Regards,
CP

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Trump confessed. Mulvaney admitted it. Several witnesses confirmed it.

haymarket said:

Trump confessed. Mulvaney admitted it. Several witnesses confirmed it.

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Confusing reply. To what are you referring?
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concernedpuma said:

Sorry Hay. You are making a seam of two different cloths. I am sure there were valid reasons to withhold aid. In the first place, aid is a gift not likely to be returned. I am not sure what the conditions were, but investigating Biden's greedy son wasn't likely the sole, or most important reason.
The President as Chief Executive has the responsibility to investigate crimes and the largesse from the blind eye Ukrainian government to a nonsensical choice of a board member smells worse than week old fish! Do you not care about previous crimes and influence peddling?
Regards,
CP

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LOL! Willful blindness comedy GOLD! twump has admitted to committing crimes and that this was a QPQ. That he only asked them to investigate ONE person, and that person is his chief political rival. To make an public announcement of the investigation for twump's campaign's PR purposes. twump IS corruption. He's not fighting any corruption, and there is exactly ZERO evidence of any criminality on Biden's part.

You simply have no idea what you're talking about.