Trump needs to be impeached because the bad guys aren't supposed to win.

HumblePi said:

Actually he's one of only a small handful of men IN THE WORLD that have enough power to destroy all of us.

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So it's a good thing he isn't a warmonger. Glad we agree on something.

We have had what, 4 debates now where a complete clown car of idiot leftists candidates have done nothing but destroy values, the economy, national security, and the laws of the land. The have gone out of their way in each round to demonstrate who is the worst prog/communist committed to ****ting on ever every value that built the country. Not one of them has talked about the importance of national security, immigration law, border security, effective foreign policy, effective trade policy, effective market strategies, effective job creation, the enhancement of market growth, improving manufacturing...all the things this country needs to grow.

And you folk want to talk about impeachment based on the same mindless nothing that idiots like Maxine Waters have been shrieking about since Nov 2016.

Jay59 said:

You made him the only power in the entire world that mattered.

BTW it's better now. Just so you know.

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You are dead wrong, it is not better, not by a long shot.

HumblePi said:

You are dead wrong, it is not better, not by a long shot.

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North Korea is talking to South Korea.
China is held to account for predatory trade practices.
Israel and KSA are cooperating to help contain Iranian aggression.
ISIS is now an after thought though not quite dead.

Compare that to when Israel and Hamas were at each others throats, China was shipping goods to USA with lead paint and Putin invaded Crimea. Obama was the worst foreign policy President since Carter. Even if you don't like Trump, you should acknowledge the improvement.

Jay59 said:

So you think Donald Trump is the cause of all the world's problems. He's more powerful than I thought.


They tried, and every day since then.


The deplorables may be the majority of the Republican's voter base, but that would be a problem. The deplorables used to be rank and file Democrats. For Republicans, they are newly found voters


The Democrats have been trying to undo the 2016 election. Try to keep up.

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He's an illegitimate president, always has been. Deal with it.

Jay59 said:

The Democrats have been trying to undo the 2016 election. Try to keep up.

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It sucks when people try to hold others accountable for their actions. I know you extreme right wing nutjobs hate accountability.

Moderate Right said:

You seem to have a misapprehension that the US Senate would remove Trump from office even though there were no "high crimes and misdemeanors".

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If the House impeached Trump, there would be "high crimes and misdemeanors". I said those would not necessarily involve violations of criminal law. I did not say, nor do I believe, the Senate would convict Trump for anything, criminal or otherwise. Battle that straw man elsewhere - maybe he'll teach you about logical fallacies, or at least the impeachment process.

Jay59 said:

North Korea is talking to South Korea.
China is held to account for predatory trade practices.
Israel and KSA are cooperating to help contain Iranian aggression.
ISIS is now an after thought though not quite dead.

Compare that to when Israel and Hamas were at each others throats, China was shipping goods to USA with lead paint and Putin invaded Crimea. Obama was the worst foreign policy President since Carter. Even if you don't like Trump, you should acknowledge the improvement.

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North and South Korea have been talking for over ten years, and I'm sure you had no idea about that either. Much of the good will work with North Korea had been undertaken by South Korea under the Roh Moo-hyun and Kim Dae-jung administrates and had been completely undone by the subsequent Lee Myung-bak and Park Geun-hye administrations, which sought to threaten and antagonize the North. Last year with the impeachment of the aforementioned Park, the more left-wing Moon Jae-in took office and has spent the last year trying to reestablish talks with North Korea. Nothing at all to do with Donald J. Trump. The Olympics are a very effective diplomatic platform for international politics. The fact that they took place on the Korean peninsula made it into an even bigger platform which Kim realized could work to his benefit. By using the Olympics as a pretense, Kim reopened talks with the South and US without running the risk of appearing that he was backing down from his own stance. It basically granted him an opportunity to reach out to the South on his own terms. If the Olympics had not occurred or had taken place somewhere else, we would be seeing this level of cooperation from North Korea.

It seems you're impressed because you're giving Trump credit for it and he has done nothing except give Kim Jong-un legitimacy which is something no other US president would do. Kim Jong-un uses his status as Trump's butt-buddy with his people. There's Trump propaganda absolutely saturates N. Korea.

Just one week ago, Kim Jong-un gave Trump a deadline. He's demanding major concessions from the US in nuclear talks. Trump is going to have to concede a whole lot to N. Korea if he wants any deal and there's no doubt that Trump will do exactly that, despite N. Korea still being under UN sanctions for human rights violations. Trump is nothing more than a stooge that will bend over and lift his ass up for Kim Jong-un. If Trump thinks N. Korea is ever going to give up their nuclear program then he's delusional, they will not.

Just yesterday there was news about a horse ride that Kim Jong-un took in the mountains where he claims his grandfather was born. The mountain Kim and his horse climbed is Mount Paektu, which has great symbolic and sacred meaning in North Korea. It’s the mythical birthplace of the founder of the first Korean kingdom and it played a central role in both the Korean armed resistance to Japanese occupation in the early 1900s and later the Korean War, when guerrilla fighters led by Kim Il Sung — Kim Jong Un’s grandfather and the founder of modern North Korea — used the mountain as a base. Many observers of N. Korea believe that Kim Jong-un is planning something big, we can only hope it's not bombing Japan with a nuclear bomb.

China can withstand any trade tariffs longer than the US can. They have Trump boxed in a corner on these tariffs. Trump will concede and China will sign a deal but you better believe, it's China that's going to get the better part of that deal. Trump of course will tell you likewise, and you of course will believe it.

Israel has more to fear now than in any time in their history. Syria is Russia's now and that's not going to be comforting to Israel, not at all.

ISIS is going to metastasize like a lethal cancer, not only in the Middle East but throughout Europe and the US. Ten thousand ISIS terrorist in that NE part of Syria alone are now free and guess what they're going to do next? Grow stronger.

Jay59 said:

North Korea is talking to South Korea.
China is held to account for predatory trade practices.
Israel and KSA are cooperating to help contain Iranian aggression.
ISIS is now an after thought though not quite dead.

Compare that to when Israel and Hamas were at each others throats, China was shipping goods to USA with lead paint and Putin invaded Crimea. Obama was the worst foreign policy President since Carter. Even if you don't like Trump, you should acknowledge the improvement.

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North and South Korea have been talking for over ten years, and I'm sure you had no idea about that either. Much of the good will work with North Korea had been undertaken by South Korea under the Roh Moo-hyun and Kim Dae-jung administrates and had been completely undone by the subsequent Lee Myung-bak and Park Geun-hye administrations, which sought to threaten and antagonize the North. Last year with the impeachment of the aforementioned Park, the more left-wing Moon Jae-in took office and has spent the last year trying to reestablish talks with North Korea. Nothing at all to do with Donald J. Trump. The Olympics are a very effective diplomatic platform for international politics. The fact that they took place on the Korean peninsula made it into an even bigger platform which Kim realized could work to his benefit. By using the Olympics as a pretense, Kim reopened talks with the South and US without running the risk of appearing that he was backing down from his own stance. It basically granted him an opportunity to reach out to the South on his own terms. If the Olympics had not occurred or had taken place somewhere else, we would be seeing this level of cooperation from North Korea.

It seems you're impressed because you're giving Trump credit for it and he has done nothing except give Kim Jong-un legitimacy which is something no other US president would do. Kim Jong-un uses his status as Trump's butt-buddy with his people. There's Trump propaganda absolutely saturates N. Korea.

Just one week ago, Kim Jong-un gave Trump a deadline. He's demanding major concessions from the US in nuclear talks. Trump is going to have to concede a whole lot to N. Korea if he wants any deal and there's no doubt that Trump will do exactly that, despite N. Korea still being under UN sanctions for human rights violations. Trump is nothing more than a stooge that will bend over and lift his ass up for Kim Jong-un. If Trump thinks N. Korea is ever going to give up their nuclear program then he's delusional, they will not.

Just yesterday there was news about a horse ride that Kim Jong-un took in the mountains where he claims his grandfather was born. The mountain Kim and his horse climbed is Mount Paektu, which has great symbolic and sacred meaning in North Korea. It’s the mythical birthplace of the founder of the first Korean kingdom and it played a central role in both the Korean armed resistance to Japanese occupation in the early 1900s and later the Korean War, when guerrilla fighters led by Kim Il Sung — Kim Jong Un’s grandfather and the founder of modern North Korea — used the mountain as a base. Many observers of N. Korea believe that Kim Jong-un is planning something big, we can only hope it's not bombing Japan with a nuclear bomb.

China can withstand any trade tariffs longer than the US can. They have Trump boxed in a corner on these tariffs. Trump will concede and China will sign a deal but you better believe, it's China that's going to get the better part of that deal. Trump of course will tell you likewise, and you of course will believe it.

Israel has more to fear now than in any time in their history. Syria is Russia's now and that's not going to be comforting to Israel, not at all.

ISIS is going to metastasize like a lethal cancer, not only in the Middle East but throughout Europe and the US. Ten thousand ISIS terrorist in that NE part of Syria alone are now free and guess what they're going to do next? Grow stronger.

HumblePi said:

North and South Korea have been talking for over ten years, and I'm sure you had no idea about that either. Much of the good will work with North Korea had been undertaken by South Korea under the Roh Moo-hyun and Kim Dae-jung administrates and had been completely undone by the subsequent Lee Myung-bak and Park Geun-hye administrations, which sought to threaten and antagonize the North. Last year with the impeachment of the aforementioned Park, the more left-wing Moon Jae-in took office and has spent the last year trying to reestablish talks with North Korea. Nothing at all to do with Donald J. Trump. The Olympics are a very effective diplomatic platform for international politics. The fact that they took place on the Korean peninsula made it into an even bigger platform which Kim realized could work to his benefit. By using the Olympics as a pretense, Kim reopened talks with the South and US without running the risk of appearing that he was backing down from his own stance. It basically granted him an opportunity to reach out to the South on his own terms. If the Olympics had not occurred or had taken place somewhere else, we would be seeing this level of cooperation from North Korea.

It seems you're impressed because you're giving Trump credit for it and he has done nothing except give Kim Jong-un legitimacy which is something no other US president would do. Kim Jong-un uses his status as Trump's butt-buddy with his people. There's Trump propaganda absolutely saturates N. Korea.

Just one week ago, Kim Jong-un gave Trump a deadline. He's demanding major concessions from the US in nuclear talks. Trump is going to have to concede a whole lot to N. Korea if he wants any deal and there's no doubt that Trump will do exactly that, despite N. Korea still being under UN sanctions for human rights violations. Trump is nothing more than a stooge that will bend over and lift his ass up for Kim Jong-un. If Trump thinks N. Korea is ever going to give up their nuclear program then he's delusional, they will not.

Just yesterday there was news about a horse ride that Kim Jong-un took in the mountains where he claims his grandfather was born. The mountain Kim and his horse climbed is Mount Paektu, which has great symbolic and sacred meaning in North Korea. It’s the mythical birthplace of the founder of the first Korean kingdom and it played a central role in both the Korean armed resistance to Japanese occupation in the early 1900s and later the Korean War, when guerrilla fighters led by Kim Il Sung — Kim Jong Un’s grandfather and the founder of modern North Korea — used the mountain as a base. Many observers of N. Korea believe that Kim Jong-un is planning something big, we can only hope it's not bombing Japan with a nuclear bomb.

China can withstand any trade tariffs longer than the US can. They have Trump boxed in a corner on these tariffs. Trump will concede and China will sign a deal but you better believe, it's China that's going to get the better part of that deal. Trump of course will tell you likewise, and you of course will believe it.

Israel has more to fear now than in any time in their history. Syria is Russia's now and that's not going to be comforting to Israel, not at all.

ISIS is going to metastasize like a lethal cancer, not only in the Middle East but throughout Europe and the US. Ten thousand ISIS terrorist in that NE part of Syria alone are now free and guess what they're going to do next? Grow stronger.

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You lose a lot of credibility when you spout obvious nonsense like this.

There is an awful lot of could'a, would'a, should'a in your post. North Korea was a success for Trump and Nobel prizes have been given for much less. That said, it was an important first step, but only the first step.

It's better than it was 4-5 years ago and you should acknowledge it.

Jay59 said:

You lose a lot of credibility when you spout obvious nonsense like this.

There is an awful lot of could'a, would'a, should'a in your post. North Korea was a success for Trump and Nobel prizes have been given for much less. That said, it was an important first step, but only the first step.

It's better than it was 4-5 years ago and you should acknowledge it.

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Success?

What success?

What high crime and misdemeanor has the president done? Or in your opinion everything is a high crime and misdemeanor. You know it’s funny that if Hillary won she would commit a high crime and misdemeanor because that dossier was the key.


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You know it’s funny that you leftists don’t really care about the people and the country. You just want power if President Obama decided to do another term then you would probably support him. You know if you are going to actually use the United States constitution know how to use it first. Don’t pretend to use it because you lost your Thorne because you ran someone who needed a dossier boost that back fired! The speaker of the house is a threat but you don’t care and I highly doubt that the emotional leftist doesn’t realize that


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CHuDWah said:

If the House impeached Trump, there would be "high crimes and misdemeanors". I said those would not necessarily involve violations of criminal law. I did not say, nor do I believe, the Senate would convict Trump for anything, criminal or otherwise. Battle that straw man elsewhere - maybe he'll teach you about logical fallacies, or at least the impeachment process.

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Ok what laws has he broken


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TheRepublican said:

Ok what laws has he broken


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He doesn't have to break any laws to be impeached. THAT"S THE POINT. Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it?! :roll:

Kreton said:

I guess your work is done. Let the cards fall where they may.

However if you want Trump out find people to vote him out. Wishful thinking doesn't work.

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I didn't say my work was done, just that those bases were covered.

CHuDWah said:

He doesn't have to break any laws to be impeached. THAT"S THE POINT. Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it?! :roll:

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I’m pressuring the democrats to give me a reason because they don’t have anything


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Not on the pure emotive level: he must lose because he's 'bad'. But we have demonstrable crimes and ethics violations that simply must not go unaddressed. The only way to effectively remove the cancer is to cut it out or the corruption gets worse. So yes, but not in the way his supporters choose to understand it.

TheRepublican said:

I’m pressuring the democrats to give me a reason because they don’t have anything


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Well then, pressure elsewhere because I'm not a democrat. Like my lean says, I'm independent meaning I support whoever represents my interests regardless of party, and that ain't Trump. As for democrats giving you a reason, I'm trying to explain to you they don't need anything, at least not a law violation, to impeach.

CHuDWah said:

Well then, pressure elsewhere because I'm not a democrat. Like my lean says, I'm independent meaning I support whoever represents my interests regardless of party, and that ain't Trump. As for democrats giving you a reason, I'm trying to explain to you they don't need anything, at least not a law violation, to impeach.

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This is true. But to add some icing on the cake, they have numerous crimes to work with. They are in all our faces yet republicans continue to deny. There have been some cracks and I look forward to many more. Moscow Mitch is furious with Trump over Syria and said so publicly. That will help turn some heads. Another entire week of witness testimony coming. Can't wait for all these transcripts. Bad for Don, Bad for Rudy and all the presidents men.

I just haven't understand, impeached for what?

rickc said:

Just his election shows how far into the gutter many americans have sunk.

To still support him after we know the real trump is very enlightening. Even after Trump is gone those Trump supporters will still be a part of the voter base. We know their true beliefs now. They need to be watched very carefully.

The Republicans have a real problem. Those deplorables are the majority of their voter base. How can they possibly appease that group and still be an effective legislative body.

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Actually it makes sense that people support him. Unlike Warren, Biden, Clinton and the like who put on false airs about how they care about this group or that group, nationally or internationally, Trump is upfront with everything has been from day one. Trump stabs you in the front, the others backstab you. If I am going to get ****ed either way, I'd rather have the person be upfront about it.