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How intolerant is the Left becoming...

How intolerant is the Left becoming...


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First, it is not my side... I am an independent who voted Obama and B Clinton.

Do you understand how debates work? A topic is chosen by the OP and then that topic is debated. Basic stuff. Just like high-school debate or court.


I see, so you pointing fingers is merely offering up a debate subject sans any partisan bias on your part, except for the partisan bias on your part.

Basic logic stuff.
 
I see, so you pointing fingers is merely offering up a debate subject sans any partisan bias on your part, except for the partisan bias on your part.

Basic logic stuff.

So you don't understand how debates work... got it.

Do you actually think that a person arguing one side of a political argument makes that person partisan? Are you able to debate the topic now instead of trying to insult me (very weakly, I might add). Basic logic would dictate that you find out a person's ideology and posting history before labeling them.
 
I'm intolerant of the good people in the Neo Nazi movement. I'm intolerant of people who defend Trump for facilitating the slaughter of the Kurds and settling ISIS fighters in the Kurdish enclave. I'm more intolerant of Trump every day. Based on my myself, I'd say very intolerant and proud of it!:mrgreen:

Proudly Intolerant! Seems like I need a custom user title change.
 
So you don't understand how debates work... got it.

Do you actually think that a person arguing one side of a political argument makes that person partisan? Are you able to debate the topic now instead of trying to insult me (very weakly, I might add). Basic logic would dictate that you find out a person's ideology and posting history before labeling them.

Fun to see you compelled to believe that your OP had anything at all to do with debate.

You don't seem to understand what those are.
 
With everything Trump is destroying, you're worried about "the Left"?

:2rofll:

OH THE DRAMA. what has "Trump destroyed" other than the minds of millions of Hillary sycophants?
 
Fun to see you compelled to believe that your OP had anything at all to do with debate.

You don't seem to understand what those are.

I didn't say that it had anything at all to do with debate... I said that he does not know how to debate... like you. :shrug:
 
How does the right wing always interpret criticism as intolerance? News flash, snowflakes: people have a first amendment right to say you're an ass.

newsflash: conservative students in college aren't preventing liberals from speaking. Conservative students aren't destroying liberal publications. It is the left that demonstrates far more intolerance of free speech.
 
LOL! The best bit? The best bit is that you simply wouldn't know.

You are losing this one already... but to be fair to you and to see how far you have progressed in the past year or so.

What would you like to debate with me?
 
newsflash: conservative students in college aren't preventing liberals from speaking. Conservative students aren't destroying liberal publications. It is the left that demonstrates far more intolerance of free speech.

There's no such thing as a constitutional right to use someone else's platform.
 
Has the left Ever been tolerant?

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There's no such thing as a constitutional right to use someone else's platform.

that has nothing to do with intolerant lefties shouting down conservative speakers who were invited to speak at a college or say burning hundreds of copies of the Dartmouth Review.
 
Has the left Ever been tolerant?

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Usually in areas where it has no political or economic power.
 
What silliness of theirs should I be posting about?

You have a lot to choose from.



So you prefer to dominate all of your time on Trump and would prefer that all threads be about Trump?

Nope. Just saying that the so-called leader of the free world has far FAR more impact than a nonfactor like Whoopi... or some random college kid demanding a safe space.
 
surely those on the Left know that those three are nutcases and do not speak for probably the majority of people that support Trump or that are Right Wing... right?

Hannity, Limbaugh, and Coulter don't speak for the Trumpcult? You haven't been to America, lately, have you?
 
How intolerant is the Left becoming? We have Ellen being attacked... Kathy G with that Trump head... Whoopi G constantly shrieking about stuff... It seems that their tolerance is becoming more and more intolerant. They are tolerant until you disagree with them

Those 3 women have always been attacked by conservatives. Why is conservative criticism against them more valid than democratic criticism of them?
 
You are losing this one already... but to be fair to you and to see how far you have progressed in the past year or so.

What would you like to debate with me?

I can't lose what isn't there. We're not having a debate.

That you think we are simply proves my point that you have no idea what one actually is.

Thanks!
 
How intolerant is the Left becoming? We have Ellen being attacked... Kathy G with that Trump head... Whoopi G constantly shrieking about stuff... It seems that their tolerance is becoming more and more intolerant. They are tolerant until you disagree with them

How intolerant are people becoming?
It's not just politics. There a psychological angle to it. Something like: Expectations + narcissism = unfulfilled feelings of entitlement = frustrations = acting out + aforementioned narcissism = the Classless Society (pun intended). I believe that the average level of narcissism in people is quite a bit higher today than it used to be. I also think that the same mechanism that lets people cheer whan a random teenager is screaming incoherently from a UN speaker's chair, is what make other people cheer when someone complains about black people stealing our jeeerbs.

It's not rational; it's "I want my cake, and everybody better get out of the way!" But what are we gonna do when crazy is the new normal? Scream at each other on a web forum, that's what.
So regarding intolerant people, if you don't know how to treat the disease, treating the symptoms often helps. But it's better to treat the actual disease.
 
How intolerant is the Left becoming? We have Ellen being attacked... Kathy G with that Trump head... Whoopi G constantly shrieking about stuff... It seems that their tolerance is becoming more and more intolerant. They are tolerant until you disagree with them

Ellen, Kathy and Whoopi are "the left"?

I know we have a reality TV game show host sitting in the Oval Office, but shockingly, entertainers are not "the left" or "the right". They're entertainers.
 
1. The left (such as those Hollywood types) are so intolerant of different viewpoints because they genuinely believe that they have received the truth directly from God.

2. Another more immediate reason: In 2016, they genuinely believed (as did everyone else, including the pollsters) that Ms. Hillary would move into the White House and continue and expand the wonderful and sensational work done by President Obama.


3. When Donald J. Trump won, they literally had a meltdown. Who can blame the poor dears? After all, everyone but everyone knew that Mr. Trump could not win.

a. When he did, the leftists were livid that there were so many people who did not buy into the mantras of the Democratic party. "Unbelievable!" they cried.


4. Now that the deep state has joined with them in fabricating "evidence" for impeachment, the leftists are slowly emerging from their deep depression and starting to smile and laugh again as they dream of seeing (on MSNBC and CNN) the President doing the perp walk. Many leftists such as a certain California Congresswoman want to see him caged like an animal. They want to see his family impoverished. And they want to find an excuse to deport Melania. Oh, yes, they are certainly "liberal," all right!

This is so ignorant it deserves a meme.

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The left is really intolerant of US politicians trashing our allies and aligning the US with our enemies.
 
I am shocked at how many people in this thread can't keep the point in context. The point is the degree of intolerance... not that everybody should tolerate everything... :roll:

Well, this is because your point came with a bad mixture of examples, thus confusing the point. The simple truth is that there are people on the left and people on the right who will go extreme to prove their identities against the other extremist side. But the only thing different is that this extremism has gotten bolder. For example:

- Where once neo-Nazis and supremacists were more inclined to be shadow figures, they have become emboldened, thus encouraging other groups like ANTIFA to get more active in response.

- Where once we had Presidents who spoke fro the Office with decorum and etiquette, we now have Liberals boldly declaring what is and is not appropriate as Conservatives scream and rage about liberty.


Yes, of course... they have an excuse to be shouting down speakers, blocking traffic of innocent motorists, etc. I bet you don't just stop with their excuse... I bet you think it is their right to do that... to go into a restaurant and insult a person until they are forced to get up and leave... right?

This is not about an excuse. This is about a reaction.

Wrong. The thread is to talk about intolerance of differing ideas, etc. from the Left. Those not doing it are not being discussed. I also did the same thin about Conservatives who were being idiots about Obama... but like so many extremists on both sides... you guys forget that and cast incorrect statements instead.

Then you should have made a single post that incorporated those actual political ideals, not emotional outrages that have little to nothing to do with those ideals. Use this as a launch pad:

1) The threatening world view illuminates the conservative take on specific political issues in fairly obvious ways.

- Conservatives are pro-gun because they want to be able to defend themselves against criminal threats of any type.
- They are mostly religious because religious rituals foster feelings of safety in a dangerous world such that the most dangerous countries in the world are also the most religious.
- They tend to be more hostile to immigrants, foreigners, and racial or ethnic minorities and to view them as more of a threat.
- They fear attacks by other nations and therefore support a strong military and a bellicose foreign policy on the theory that a good attack is the best defense.
- Apart from military defense, where government is an asset, conservatives fear government intrusions into their lives and particularly fear having their wealth eroded by taxation.
- They are pro-family because being surrounded by close relatives is the best defense against threats that surround them.
- They oppose welfare for the poor because this encourages dependence so that the failures of a society are parasites on the successes thereby inverting the proper incentive structure.
-They admire wealth because successful people are seen as having worked hard in pursuing a moral obligation to provide for themselves and their families in a difficult and uncertain world.


2) The liberal world view is mostly the opposite. Liberals take a more optimistic view of the world as being somewhat more benign. Government is a vehicle through which the citizens of a democracy can solve problems and improve the well-being and happiness of most people.

- Liberals feel that protection of citizens against crime is better left to police and that armed citizens are a threat to those around them.
- They are less religious than conservatives because they perceive the world around them as less threatening. Moreover, they rely more on science, and education, as a means to solve problems.
- Liberals are more welcoming to immigrants. They are less likely to view foreigners, and racial or ethnic minorities as a threat.
- They favor negotiation and consensus-building over warfare in foreign policy and do not believe in excessive military buildups that drain social spending.
- Liberals are happy to pay their taxes if they believe that the money is being used to improve the quality of life of others whether they are poor or rich. Instead of being a threat, the government reflects the will of the people.
- Liberals are less interested in family ties as a protective bubble.
- They support welfare programs for the poor because these may reduce child poverty, as well as reducing crime and social problems.
- Liberals are suspicious of wealth, feeling that much of it is inherited or obtained through sharp business practices or outright corruption. They also feel that concentrating resources in the hands of the one percent impoverishes everyone else thereby undermining social trust.
 
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