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    Re: How intolerant is the Left becoming...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    So you don't understand how debates work... got it.

    Do you actually think that a person arguing one side of a political argument makes that person partisan? Are you able to debate the topic now instead of trying to insult me (very weakly, I might add). Basic logic would dictate that you find out a person's ideology and posting history before labeling them.
    No but the person proposing a partisan debate point might make that person a partisan. And if calling you a partisan is an insult, basic logic dictates that hypersensitivity is a problem of yours not mine.
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    Re: How intolerant is the Left becoming...

    Quote Originally Posted by bomberfox View Post
    The **** are you on about? We are talking about Kurds who helped us fight those who throw gay people off rooftops.
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    The **** are you on about? We are talking about Kurds who helped us fight those who throw gay people off rooftops.
    Yes the Kurds are fighting jihadist mercenaries that we and our allies have either trained and/or funded.

    Mujahideen - Wikipedia

    Many Muslims from other countries assisted the various mujahideen groups in Afghanistan. Some groups of these veterans became significant players in later conflicts in and around the Muslim world. Osama bin Laden, originally from a wealthy family in Saudi Arabia, was a prominent organizer and financier of an all-Arab Islamist group of foreign volunteers; his Maktab al-Khadamat funnelled money, arms, and Muslim fighters from around the Muslim world into Afghanistan, with the assistance and support of the Saudi and Pakistani governments.[12]These foreign fighters became known as "Afghan Arabs" and their efforts were coordinated by Abdullah Yusuf Azzam.

    Although the mujahideen were aided by the Pakistani, U.S., and Saudi governments, the mujahideen's primary source of funding was private donors and religious charities throughout the Muslim world—particularly in the Persian Gulf. Jason Burke recounts that "as little as 25 per cent of the money for the Afghan jihad was actually supplied directly by states."
    Considering we give funding and weapons to a lot of our ""allies"" that support jihadist mercenaries, that fight for anyone that will pay them, we literally created ISIS.

    There's no accountability for the funding, weapons and aid we give to these various groups, that's why Turkey, Syria and Russia are rightfully claiming we fund ISIS, Kurdish terrorist, ect.

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    I don't understand how you can prove to be this ignorant and still operate a computer.
    You shouldn't be making comments like that after posting a steaming pile of BS.

    If you know absolutely nothing about the Kurds, Muslims, or other subjects, why not take some good advice and shut your ****ing mouth?
    How about you take your own advice and stop embarrassing the Marine Corps. I guess they really lowered their standards, sad.

    For example: You call them "faggots" and then accuse them of tossing gays off of roofs. Why would "faggots" hate gays? Seems a very dumb thing to declare.
    Faggot (slang) - Wikipedia

    Through ethnographic research in a high school setting, CJ Pascoe examined how American high school boys used the term fag during the early 2000s. Pascoe's work suggested that these boys used the fag epithet as a way to assert their own masculinity, by claiming that another boy is less masculine.

    The Think Before You Speak campaign has sought to stop fag and gay being used as generic insults.
    I would claim you're feigning ignorance but I don't think you're pretending.

    The Kurds were absolutely our allies and have been well before 9/11.
    No they're not. They're the allies of corrupt administrations and boot lickers like yourself.
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    Re: How intolerant is the Left becoming...

    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenBasehead View Post
    Yes the Kurds are fighting jihadist mercenaries that we and our allies have either trained and/or funded.

    Mujahideen - Wikipedia



    Considering we give funding and weapons to a lot of our ""allies"" that support jihadist mercenaries, that fight for anyone that will pay them, we literally created ISIS.

    There's no accountability for the funding, weapons and aid we give to these various groups, that's why Turkey, Syria and Russia are rightfully claiming we fund ISIS, Kurdish terrorist, ect.



    You shouldn't be making comments like that after posting a steaming pile of BS.



    How about you take your own advice and stop embarrassing the Marine Corps. I guess they really lowered their standards, sad.



    Faggot (slang) - Wikipedia



    I would claim you're feigning ignorance but I don't think you're pretending.



    No they're not. They're the allies of corrupt administrations and boot lickers like yourself.
    No evidence whatsoever to back your point about the Kurds. Were done.

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    Re: How intolerant is the Left becoming...

    Quote Originally Posted by weaver2 View Post
    It was President George W. Bush who signed the Status of Forces agreement in 2008, which planned for all American troops to be out of Iraq by the end of 2011.

    "The agreement lays out a framework for the withdrawal of American forces in Iraq — a withdrawal that is possible because of the success of the surge," Bush said in a joint press conference with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al Maliki at the time.
    (from Wikipedia)
    So you feel Obama was not smart enough to assess the situation as it was at the time and make the proper adjustments to policy? Don't you think that in times of conflict that the situation might change over the period of years?

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    Re: How intolerant is the Left becoming...

    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenBasehead View Post
    Yes the Kurds are fighting jihadist mercenaries that we and our allies have either trained and/or funded.

    Mujahideen - Wikipedia



    Considering we give funding and weapons to a lot of our ""allies"" that support jihadist mercenaries, that fight for anyone that will pay them, we literally created ISIS.
    I assure you that my knowledge far surpasses your layman's attempt to understand difficult things as you funnel them through your partisan garbage. And "literally" has a meaning. "ISIS," officially known as IS since 2014 by the way, originates to 1998(9), opposed the Jordanian government that we supported, and was not "literally" created by us. After Obama dismissed Pentagon advice and prematurely pulled my kind out without any sense of political muscle, the Shia government began shoving Sunni representation out, thus instigating widespread tribal conflict, which created an environment for IS to exploit and build.

    Anyway, since you are at least trying to be more than what your prior post demonstrated, we have long armed our enemies and provided support towards allies who supported our enemies. For example, while Iran, Russia, and India were fighting al-Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan during the 1990s, we were supporting Pakistan, who was supporting the Taliban. Before this, we used those foreign religious fighters to repel the Soviet Union from Afghanistan. And long before this, we supported the Soviet Union and Ho Chi Minh during World War II against Germany and Japan. Such is diplomacy, warfare, and the idiocy of nations to see only the immediate future without considering the consequences.

    The Kurds are not these people and we did betray them. And yet again, we see the idiocy of a nation to see only the immediate future without considering the consequences. Trump, against Pentagon advice, has prematurely pulled my kind out, leaving the Turks, Iran, and Russia to shape the region at the Kurds expense, which will present room for IS. You, in turn, support it simply because Trump told you to. You are just another nobody who received FOX News spin and goes on to promote himself as knowing anything beyond a splinter's worth of information.


    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenBasehead View Post

    There's no accountability for the funding, weapons and aid we give to these various groups, that's why Turkey, Syria and Russia are rightfully claiming we fund ISIS, Kurdish terrorist, ect.
    "Kurdish terrorists" is Turkish, Iraqi, Syrian, and Iranian propaganda. They are the single largest concentration of an ethnic group on the planet....without a country. For decades, the Syrian, Iraqi, Iranian, and Turkish governments have oppressed and slaughtered them. Their reactions to defend themselves have earned them the title "terrorists" from these decrepit governments. By betraying them, we handed them over to even our enemies.


    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenBasehead View Post
    How about you take your own advice and stop embarrassing the Marine Corps. I guess they really lowered their standards, sad.
    Well, I have the ability to use my brain and can apply reason, logic, and common sense to the historical record rather than spew venom and ignorance while ignoring the historical record. This is what a Marine is.

    You, on the other hand, have demonstrated a lack of standards in your zeal to celebrate ignorance and venom. Conspiracy and shallow understanding is where people like you swim. For example...


    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenBasehead View Post
    ...even after looking at the definition you still can't see how entirely stupid this was. Faggot - "a pejorative term used chiefly in North America primarily to refer to a gay male." Do you need to know what pejorative means too? - "expressing contempt or disapproval."

    In other words, you demonstrated clear contempt for people who would throw gay men off of roofs by calling them "faggots." As Trump would write in a Tweet, and as you aptly proved above to be an audience of..."sad."


    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenBasehead View Post
    I would claim you're feigning ignorance but I don't think you're pretending.
    ...and what was that definition of "faggot" again? Maybe we should define "ignorance" for you too.


    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenBasehead View Post
    No they're not. They're the allies of corrupt administrations and boot lickers like yourself.
    Say's the guy who can't stick Donald Trump's corrupt boots far enough down his throat. Again, you are absolutely ignorant of the Kurds and apparently simple meanings. You have proved this for all to read in two posts.
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    Re: How intolerant is the Left becoming...

    Quote Originally Posted by bomberfox View Post
    No evidence whatsoever to back your point about the Kurds. Were done.
    Sigh... Let me help you get up to speed on the situation.

    We fund and support the SDF(Syrian Democratic Forces) which is comprised of People's Protection Units (YPG). People's Protection Units (YPG) is part of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK).

    Syrian Democratic Forces - Wikipedia

    The SDF is militarily led by the People's Protection Units (YPG), a mostly Kurdish militia.

    According to United States Army Special Forces Commander General Raymond A. Thomas at the Aspen Security Forum in July 2017, the SDF is a PR-friendly name for the YPG, which Thomas personally suggested because the YPG is considered an arm of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), which is designated as a terrorist group by the Federal government of the United States.[111][112] American Defense Secretary Ashton Carter confirmed "substantial ties" between the PYD/YPG and the PKK.[113] Testifying to the U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee Congress, Director of National Intelligence Daniel Coats, the top U.S. intelligence official, explicitly defined the YPG as the "PKK's militia force in Syria”.[114][115]
    People's Protection Units - Wikipedia

    The Syrian Democratic Forces was established in Hasakah on 11 October 2015. It has its origins in the YPG-FSA collaboration against ISIL, which had previously led to the establishment of the Euphrates Volcano joint operations room in 2014.
    Kurdish–Turkish conflict (1978–present)

    However, the full-scale insurgency did not begin until 15 August 1984, when the PKK announced a Kurdish uprising.
    Kurdish nationalism - Wikipedia

    More info on the subject^^^
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    Re: How intolerant is the Left becoming...

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    I assure you that my knowledge far surpasses your layman's attempt to understand difficult .
    This might be difficult for someone like you to understand but this is a very simple subject even my retarded ass understands and thanks for starting your post off with **** I already know.

    "Kurdish terrorists" is Turkish, Iraqi, Syrian, and Iranian propaganda.
    That's an interesting interpretation of the situation.

    Syrian Democratic Forces - Wikipedia

    According to United States Army Special Forces Commander General Raymond A. Thomas at the Aspen Security Forum in July 2017, the SDF is a PR-friendly name for the YPG, which Thomas personally suggested because the YPG is considered an arm of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), which is designated as a terrorist group by the Federal government of the United States.[111][112] American Defense Secretary Ashton Carter confirmed "substantial ties" between the PYD/YPG and the PKK.[113] Testifying to the U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee Congress, Director of National Intelligence Daniel Coats, the top U.S. intelligence official, explicitly defined the YPG as the "PKK's militia force in Syria”.[114][115]
    FYI, your talking to someone that considers Mugabe, Mandela and their commie comrades to be terrorist.
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    Re: How intolerant is the Left becoming...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    How intolerant is the Left becoming?
    Who is it exactly that the Left is intolerant of?
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    Re: How intolerant is the Left becoming...

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    I assure you that my knowledge far surpasses your layman's attempt to understand difficult things as you funnel them through your partisan garbage. And "literally" has a meaning. "ISIS," officially known as IS since 2014 by the way, originates to 1998(9), opposed the Jordanian government that we supported, and was not "literally" created by us. After Obama dismissed Pentagon advice and prematurely pulled my kind out without any sense of political muscle, the Shia government began shoving Sunni representation out, thus instigating widespread tribal conflict, which created an environment for IS to exploit and build.

    Anyway, since you are at least trying to be more than what your prior post demonstrated, we have long armed our enemies and provided support towards allies who supported our enemies. For example, while Iran, Russia, and India were fighting al-Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan during the 1990s, we were supporting Pakistan, who was supporting the Taliban. Before this, we used those foreign religious fighters to repel the Soviet Union from Afghanistan. And long before this, we supported the Soviet Union and Ho Chi Minh during World War II against Germany and Japan. Such is diplomacy, warfare, and the idiocy of nations to see only the immediate future without considering the consequences.

    The Kurds are not these people and we did betray them. And yet again, we see the idiocy of a nation to see only the immediate future without considering the consequences. Trump, against Pentagon advice, has prematurely pulled my kind out, leaving the Turks, Iran, and Russia to shape the region at the Kurds expense, which will present room for IS. You, in turn, support it simply because Trump told you to. You are just another nobody who received FOX News spin and goes on to promote himself as knowing anything beyond a splinter's worth of information.




    "Kurdish terrorists" is Turkish, Iraqi, Syrian, and Iranian propaganda. They are the single largest concentration of an ethnic group on the planet....without a country. For decades, the Syrian, Iraqi, Iranian, and Turkish governments have oppressed and slaughtered them. Their reactions to defend themselves have earned them the title "terrorists" from these decrepit governments. By betraying them, we handed them over to even our enemies.




    Well, I have the ability to use my brain and can apply reason, logic, and common sense to the historical record rather than spew venom and ignorance while ignoring the historical record. This is what a Marine is.

    You, on the other hand, have demonstrated a lack of standards in your zeal to celebrate ignorance and venom. Conspiracy and shallow understanding is where people like you swim. For example...




    ...even after looking at the definition you still can't see how entirely stupid this was. Faggot - "a pejorative term used chiefly in North America primarily to refer to a gay male." Do you need to know what pejorative means too? - "expressing contempt or disapproval."

    In other words, you demonstrated clear contempt for people who would throw gay men off of roofs by calling them "faggots." As Trump would write in a Tweet, and as you aptly proved above to be an audience of..."sad."




    ...and what was that definition of "faggot" again? Maybe we should define "ignorance" for you too.




    Say's the guy who can't stick Donald Trump's corrupt boots far enough down his throat. Again, you are absolutely ignorant of the Kurds and apparently simple meanings. You have proved this for all to read in two posts.
    While I don't agree with Trump's withdraw, I do agree that we are not the world's policeman and we need to get out of these clusters. It has also happened many times before. Examples would be The Bay of Pigs Invasion, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran and many others.

    You are incorrect about the Kruds. The situation they have created would be like Mexicans coming into the United States and occupying Texas and claiming it is now Little Mexico. They have moved into Turkey, Iraq and Syria, taken large swaths of land, refused to accept the cultures of the host countries and killed thousands. In fact, a large faction of the Kurdish people have been deemed terrorists by most of the Western world. "the PKK has been designated as "terrorist" organization by Turkey,[17] the United States, 28 European countries, and Japan.[18] "

    Your assertion that we betrayed the Kurds is BS. We have no treaty with them. We fought a common enemy together. They used this as an excuse to annex more land. They prodded an enemy they have been fighting for 40 years hoping to avoid retribution by hiding behind American soldiers.

    You can also get off your high horse. You are not the only person who has served in the military.

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    Re: How intolerant is the Left becoming...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    There are hundreds of anti-Trump threads... this is not one of them. Post about this topic.
    What topic? People are people and they have opinions that they are still free to share. Is that a problem for you? Why should we fear a diversity of opinions?
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