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Should "In God We Trust" Be Removed From Our Money And Important Documents?

Should "In God We Trust" Be Removed From Our Money And Important Documents?

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Aberration said:
Which rabbi teaches this?
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Many. It's old rabbinical humor. Something Christians and muslims don't get, laughing with god. Outside the Irish, I know of know other people than the Jews who crack jokes and laugh at funerals.
 
Moderate Right said:
But you think that an actual Christian country would allow baby killing by voting in Hillary or one of the 2020 candidates? Did it ever occur to you that, if their is a God, God pushed the buttons to make sure that a baby killer did not become president and RvW could be overturned?
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Baby killing is illegal in this country. Nobody allows it.

What baby killer was running for POTUS recently, and how many babies did he kill?
 
Moderate Right said:
I was just posting a response to someone in another thread and this question popped into my mind. The left really seem to have gone very anti-God and anti religion so, should all references to God be removed from our money and founding documents?
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I'm on the Left and I don't think it is that big of a deal, but think about it for a moment and ask yourself if you don't agree that putting GOD on money is a huge insult to GOD, is it not?

Of all the things to attach the name God to, our filthy lucre should be the very last.
Smearing "In God We Trust" all over a hundred dollar bill doesn't make your transaction with a hooker or arms dealer any more holy or sanctified and mumbling about God while rolling up a twenty to snort some heroin isn't doing God much good either, is it ?

Has nothing to do with tolerance at all. If you want to make it obvious that your God is actually Mammon, hey go for it.
At least you're being honest. But make it accurate.
It should read "In Mammon We Trust".

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OldFatGuy said:
Many. It's old rabbinical humor. Something Christians and muslims don't get, laughing with god. Outside the Irish, I know of know other people than the Jews who crack jokes and laugh at funerals.
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back where I came from there was the old custom of any relative of the deceased throwing a wreath from the grave behind him towards the other mourners.

First one to catch it was the next person to die.:mrgreen:
 
beefheart said:
You are sooooo easily triggered.

Life is so much better when you don't get so angry at everything.

Maybe you should pray on it.
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Or maybe WE should point to this thread next time he whines about lefty political correctness.
After all, the God on money argument, along with the flag burning argument, are prime instances of right wing PC, yes?
And God help you if you mutter "Season's Greetings" or "Happy Holidays" around a connie, that will ignite their PC big time.
Hell, just having the wrong coffee cup in December sets them off.

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PIPEWRENCH said:
No drama. Just trying to understand the hate people have towards a simple phrase on a dollar that hurts no one.
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Using your same argument, then the removal of that quote will also harm noone.
 
Chagos said:
back where I came from there was the old custom of any relative of the deceased throwing a wreath from the grave behind him towards the other mourners.

First one to catch it was the next person to die.:mrgreen:
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Did it prove out?
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
He most likely doesn't know the outcome. That may be the genius of the design of free will and choice.
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So everything might not go according to his plan?

Then we might not have a second coming or an armageddon.

Cool!
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
No drama. Just trying to understand the hate people have towards a simple phrase on a dollar that hurts no one.
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It hurts God plenty.
If I was "God", I sure wouldn't want MY name on the money used to purchase things that hurt and kill my people.
Do I get the right to ordain "God-free currency" that is only used for the purchase of evil things?
No, of course not, thus you have attached MY GOOD NAME to all manner of things I would never approve of.

If you guys can force a gay couple to seek their gay wedding cake baked elsewhere, then I should be allowed to force you to take MY name off things that offend ME.
And you guys have been doing a LOT OF THINGS that offend the **** out of me for decades, with all that money with my name on it.

So, speaking AS GOD, I want MY good name taken OFF your filthy lucre, it does not belong there at all and never has.
But will you listen to my request? Of course not. I am apparently not even the "god" in question here.
Apparently the real name of your god is Mammon, so it looks like I am not even in the loop!
 
Moderate Right said:
And yet, a higher authority is referenced several times in our country's documents. I don't really agree with you that our founding principles were referring to Christianity, although it is understandable that you came to that conclusion. I think they had the foresight to want religious freedom for everyone and understood that any one particular religion sanctioned by the state would be a bad thing, no matter which one it was. Understandably, their experience was with the Anglican Church of England and the logical conclusion would be that if any religion in the US would be sanctioned by the state it would be some form of Christianity. But, they didn't know the future back then and wanted to cover all of their bases.
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Christianity is what they were dealing with at the time. The Danbury letters prove the point. What other religion were they even thinking about? Also, you have to dig a little deeper in colonial history...like the war that erupted between Catholics and Protestants in Maryland during 1689, called the The Protestant Rebellion of 1689 or Coode's Rebellion. These were the things that the Founders and Framers wanted to prevent...and it was based on Christianity.
 
Moderate Right said:
I was just posting a response to someone in another thread and this question popped into my mind. The left really seem to have gone very anti-God and anti religion so, should all references to God be removed from our money and founding documents?
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It was never about God. It was a political statement and placed there in the late 1950s as a response to the Soviet theme of atheism. Sure, plenty were devout Christians and loved the idea of it. But plenty were also just caught up in the McCarthy anti-communist wave and really didn't care beyond that.

** Soviet + Communism + Evil = Godlessness

** America + Capitalism + Purity = God.

But if we are a country that allows for the freedom of religion, perhaps we should prove it by stopping our push of the Abrahamic (but really Christian) God down people's throats. For a country that prides itself on not having a state religion like all those European, Islamic, and Asian countries, we sure like to pretend we do.

Or Perhaps we can go ahead and place a different god on each of our coinage to represent as many religions and cultures as possible. Maybe "In Brahma We Trust?" How about "In Amaterasu We Trust?" Um..."In Ahura Mazda We Trust?" I'd say Zeus, but I'm not sure if there are believers of that anymore. We do know that Thor is around, but I think Odin died in one of those movies. Either way, we can allow for more BS in our freedom of religion expression!
 
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Moderate Right said:
I was just posting a response to someone in another thread and this question popped into my mind. The left really seem to have gone very anti-God and anti religion so, should all references to God be removed from our money and founding documents?
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Which god? Which religion? Are they anti-(all religions and gods),or do they simply not want religion officially showing up in our government, legal tender, etc.?
 
Moderate Right said:
And yet, a higher authority is referenced several times in our country's documents. I don't really agree with you that our founding principles were referring to Christianity, although it is understandable that you came to that conclusion. I think they had the foresight to want religious freedom for everyone and understood that any one particular religion sanctioned by the state would be a bad thing, no matter which one it was. Understandably, their experience was with the Anglican Church of England and the logical conclusion would be that if any religion in the US would be sanctioned by the state it would be some form of Christianity. But, they didn't know the future back then and wanted to cover all of their bases.
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It wasn't just about foresight. Our Founding Fathers were the grandsons of those who hung witches at Salem in the name of religion as Europeans were burning and drowning tens of thousands. They knew all too well the price that people pay when others force their religious BS upon others or try to use it to exonerate bad behavior.

They knew what was behind them and didn't want that going forward for the new country. Yet, still, their descendants went ahead dropped God onto money and into slogans in the 1950s to oppose Communism. Since this didn't come from our Founding Fathers, it can certainly go away without harming the nation. Christians would have their feelings hurt and some Liberals would throw a party over something insignificant, but that's about it.
 
Jason Warfield said:
Christianity is what they were dealing with at the time. The Danbury letters prove the point. What other religion were they even thinking about? Also, you have to dig a little deeper in colonial history...like the war that erupted between Catholics and Protestants in Maryland during 1689, called the The Protestant Rebellion of 1689 or Coode's Rebellion. These were the things that the Founders and Framers wanted to prevent...and it was based on Christianity.
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Don't take this the wrong way but I think you are too narrow minded in looking at this. While what you say is totally true I believe the founders recognized that this could happen with any religion, not just Christianity. They put a lot of thought into thinking about the future, including allowing the constitution to be changed if times changed considerably.
 
CMPancake said:
Using your same argument, then the removal of that quote will also harm noone.
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So why should it be removed if there is no harm? Hate for anything that mentions god?
 
LouC said:
So everything might not go according to his plan?

Then we might not have a second coming or an armageddon.

Cool!
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The world may still be destroyed by something we have no knowledge of yet but a god might. We may have evolved and moved on to other places by then and only those who remain will die.
 
The money without it is even more collectible. Do a search on the term "Bust Dollar".

CHuDWah said:
Remove it...then all my "In God We Trust" money will instantly become collectible! :lamo
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Checkerboard Strangler said:
It hurts God plenty.
If I was "God", I sure wouldn't want MY name on the money used to purchase things that hurt and kill my people.
Do I get the right to ordain "God-free currency" that is only used for the purchase of evil things?
No, of course not, thus you have attached MY GOOD NAME to all manner of things I would never approve of.

If you guys can force a gay couple to seek their gay wedding cake baked elsewhere, then I should be allowed to force you to take MY name off things that offend ME.
And you guys have been doing a LOT OF THINGS that offend the **** out of me for decades, with all that money with my name on it.

So, speaking AS GOD, I want MY good name taken OFF your filthy lucre, it does not belong there at all and never has.
But will you listen to my request? Of course not. I am apparently not even the "god" in question here.
Apparently the real name of your god is Mammon, so it looks like I am not even in the loop!
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I fell so sad for you. I have a God I can put my trust in.
 
mrjurrs said:
I think we've probably seen the last of Superman, when Hollywood decided to make a movie that put Batman and Superman on the same footing, I think Superman left the premises.
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Batman has a way to take down all the Justice League members. Him taking on Superman isnt nearly as big of a problem as him not figuring out Luthor was playing him and Superman against each other before Superman did. That part actually fits less in the DC mythos than Batman being able to take on Superman.

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Moderate Right said:
I was just posting a response to someone in another thread and this question popped into my mind. The left really seem to have gone very anti-God and anti religion so, should all references to God be removed from our money and founding documents?
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Democrats want God out of their lives and off their political platform, and their lack of love and respect for others shows it.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
The world may still be destroyed by something we have no knowledge of yet but a god might. We may have evolved and moved on to other places by then and only those who remain will die.
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Or not, if it isn't to God's plan.
 
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