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Didn't Democrats in Congress just do EXACTLY what they claim Trump should be impeached for?

Didn't Democrats in Congress just do exactly what they claim Trump should be impeached for?


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Democrats in Congress has the Ukraine ambassador testify, hoping to get dirt on Trump - their opposition - to impeach him.

WAIT A MINUTE! Isn't that exactly what they claim is reason to remove an official - trying to get dirt on political opposition from a foreign government?

So, I must conclude either 1.) Most Democrats are exactly perfectly amoral lying hypocrites or 2.) on its face all this attack on Trump is crap.

Which one is it?
 
Democrats in Congress has the Ukraine ambassador testify, hoping to get dirt on Trump - their opposition - to impeach him.

WAIT A MINUTE! Isn't that exactly what they claim is reason to remove an official - trying to get dirt on political opposition from a foreign government?

So, I must conclude either 1.) Most Democrats are exactly perfectly amoral lying hypocrites or 2.) on its face all this attack on Trump is crap.

Which one is it?

False equivalence. Congressional oversight is part of our system of checks and balances. The Ambassador works for the US government
 
Democrats in Congress has the Ukraine ambassador testify, hoping to get dirt on Trump - their opposition - to impeach him.
WAIT A MINUTE! Isn't that exactly what they claim is reason to remove an official - trying to get dirt on political opposition from a foreign government?
So, I must conclude either 1.) Most Democrats are exactly perfectly amoral lying hypocrites or 2.) on its face all this attack on Trump is crap.
Which one is it?

Having a former US ambassador testify before a Congressional committee is the same as a secret phone call requesting an investigation into an opposing candidate?

That's really what you're going with?

And then you're going to top it off with a false dichotomy logical fallacy?

Not sure what to tell you.
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False equivalence. Congressional oversight is part of our system of checks and balances. The Ambassador works for the US government

Gosh, ever hear the phrase "3 branches of government?" The Executive Branch also is part of the system of checks and balances too, isn't he?

It is absolutely an absurd claim that Congress can explore illegal activities with foreign governments but the Executive Branch can't? How hypocritical can you be in your message?
 
Gosh, ever hear the phrase "3 branches of government?" The Executive Branch also is part of the system of checks and balances too, isn't he?

It is absolutely an absurd claim that Congress can explore illegal activities with foreign governments but the Executive Branch can't? How hypocritical can you be in your message?

The President is head of the Executive Branch, he is not the branch. Congress is questioning a former State Department employee. No hypocrisy, you are misunderstanding what is happening.
 
The President is head of the Executive Branch, he is not the branch. Congress is questioning a former State Department employee. No hypocrisy, you are misunderstanding what is happening.

Actually not true, the President IS the executive branch everyone else in the branch serves at his pleasure as they represent him.
 
Democrats in Congress has the Ukraine ambassador testify, hoping to get dirt on Trump - their opposition - to impeach him.

WAIT A MINUTE! Isn't that exactly what they claim is reason to remove an official - trying to get dirt on political opposition from a foreign government?

So, I must conclude either 1.) Most Democrats are exactly perfectly amoral lying hypocrites or 2.) on its face all this attack on Trump is crap.

Which one is it?

You equate legal congressional oversight with what Trump did? Bless your heart.
 
Democrats in Congress has the Ukraine ambassador testify, hoping to get dirt on Trump - their opposition - to impeach him.

WAIT A MINUTE! Isn't that exactly what they claim is reason to remove an official - trying to get dirt on political opposition from a foreign government?

So, I must conclude either 1.) Most Democrats are exactly perfectly amoral lying hypocrites or 2.) on its face all this attack on Trump is crap.

Which one is it?

Interesting that your poll choices are all self serving. Not one choice reflects reality.
 
Democrats in Congress has the Ukraine ambassador testify, hoping to get dirt on Trump - their opposition - to impeach him.

WAIT A MINUTE! Isn't that exactly what they claim is reason to remove an official - trying to get dirt on political opposition from a foreign government?

So, I must conclude either 1.) Most Democrats are exactly perfectly amoral lying hypocrites or 2.) on its face all this attack on Trump is crap.

Which one is it?

The ambassador isn't a foreign government. He's an american and worked for the american government. Jesus Christ :roll:

And even then, not the same thing. Congress brought in someone to get the facts of the matter, not to put pressure on a foreign country to start an investigation. If the FBI or DOJ found actual evidence of a wrong doing by Biden or his son, and then they when to a foreign government to get info on the matter, that would be ok and legal. But the president shouldn't be interfering in these investigations, and he definitely shouldn't be pressuring foreign countries to start up investigations on entirely bullsit claims.
 
the dems are not trying to get dirt for an election ...they are getting information for the impeachment
 
Democrats in Congress has the Ukraine ambassador testify, hoping to get dirt on Trump - their opposition - to impeach him.

Kurt Volker was never the US Ambassador to Ukraine. He was the US Special Envoy to Ukraine.

Geezus lol, you're so God awful uniformed and yet insist on penning these asinine threads.
 
Democrats in Congress has the Ukraine ambassador testify, hoping to get dirt on Trump - their opposition - to impeach him.

WAIT A MINUTE! Isn't that exactly what they claim is reason to remove an official - trying to get dirt on political opposition from a foreign government?

So, I must conclude either 1.) Most Democrats are exactly perfectly amoral lying hypocrites or 2.) on its face all this attack on Trump is crap.

Which one is it?

Political theater, all of it. The difference is Trump doesn't hunker down, he doesn't retreat, he doesn't hide behind a "spokesperson", he personally hits back and exposes their hypocrisy. Trump's a bare knuckle fighter. Ain't social media great !!
 
Actually not true, the President IS the executive branch everyone else in the branch serves at his pleasure as they represent him.

Nope, the AG (in normal times) reports to the president but does not represent him. Additionally, are you saying that the Executive Branch didn't exist between the time JFK died and LBJ was sworn in?
 
Political theater, all of it. The difference is Trump doesn't hunker down, he doesn't retreat, he doesn't hide behind a "spokesperson", he personally hits back and exposes their hypocrisy. Trump's a bare knuckle fighter. Ain't social media great !!
He hid the recording of that call in a highly classified (above normal for this sort of call) vault. He hides behind legal manipulation all the time. He hides his tax returns with the treasury department. He hides behind the ignorance and/or gullibility of many of those who support him to try to get away with a lot of corrupt acts. Be also hides behind his name and money in business dealings.

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He hid the recording of that call in a highly classified (above normal for this sort of call) vault. He hides behind legal manipulation all the time. He hides his tax returns with the treasury department. He hides behind the ignorance and/or gullibility of many of those who support him to try to get away with a lot of corrupt acts. Be also hides behind his name and money in business dealings.

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Yeah, he's a bare knuckle brawler who knows how to protect himself. He doesn't give the enemy anything. And he's better at using the legal system than his opponents. What's not to like...
 
Yeah, he's a bare knuckle brawler who knows how to protect himself. He doesn't give the enemy anything. And he's better at using the legal system than his opponents. What's not to like...
You claimed he wasn't hiding anything. That simply isnt true. And hiding evidence of your crimes or wrong doings isnt something to be proud of. Hiding money so others who legitimately have a claim to it, isnt something to be proud of. Hiding your real motivations behind a charity or school yo simply make money for yourself is definitely not something to be proud of.

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You claimed he wasn't hiding anything. That simply isnt true. And hiding evidence of your crimes or wrong doings isnt something to be proud of. Hiding money so others who legitimately have a claim to it, isnt something to be proud of. Hiding your real motivations behind a charity or school yo simply make money for yourself is definitely not something to be proud of.

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I never claimed he wasn't "hiding" anything. That's a straw man you're trying for there. I said he wasn't giving up anything, and there's a difference. He plays hardball. Liberals are so used to opponents who cave under pressure, who don't fight back, who they can bully, shout down, and attack without fear of reprisal. That ain't Donald Trump. He is the master of weaponizing social media. No way to shout him down. He doesn't cowtow to bullies. You may not like an opponent who stands up for himself, but democracy was never supposed to be anything but down and dirty. The Founders knew that. You all just don't like someone fighting back using the exact same tactics as you employ everyday. Get used to it.
 
your boy facing a firing squad, all his own making. Enjoy, I know I will ! Keep talking Rump and Rudy, please dont stop !!
 
the dems are not trying to get dirt for an election ...they are getting information for the impeachment

Trump makes it so easy for the Dems, like candy from a baby.
 
Kurt Volker was never the US Ambassador to Ukraine. He was the US Special Envoy to Ukraine.

Geezus lol, you're so God awful uniformed and yet insist on penning these asinine threads.

The stupidity from the Right is astounding. The uneducated following a moron over the cliff.
 
I never claimed he wasn't "hiding" anything. That's a straw man you're trying for there. I said he wasn't giving up anything, and there's a difference. He plays hardball. Liberals are so used to opponents who cave under pressure, who don't fight back, who they can bully, shout down, and attack without fear of reprisal. That ain't Donald Trump. He is the master of weaponizing social media. No way to shout him down. He doesn't cowtow to bullies. You may not like an opponent who stands up for himself, but democracy was never supposed to be anything but down and dirty. The Founders knew that. You all just don't like someone fighting back using the exact same tactics as you employ everyday. Get used to it.
His tactics are sleazy and corrupt. Most expect a President who will be above such things since such tactics that describe as admirable are not seen as desirable to a lot of people. Which may explain Trumps inability to climb any higher in approval ratings.

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His tactics are sleazy and corrupt. Most expect a President who will be above such things since such tactics that describe as admirable are not seen as desirable to a lot of people. Which may explain Trumps inability to climb any higher in approval ratings.

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Liberals count on their opposition to be "above such things". Then they can attack with lies and innuendo's without fear of retaliation. They throw bombs, Trump throws bombs back. They just ain't used to that. They can't adjust, so they double down. Then Trump doubles down. I love watching it. Liberals got so used to setting the rules; they get to attack while their opposition (like Trump) has to act all "presidential" and take it. Well, Homey don't play that game. He fires back. BTW; the polls said Trump didn't have a chance last time. Now we call him Mr. President.
 
Liberals count on their opposition to be "above such things". Then they can attack with lies and innuendo's without fear of retaliation. They throw bombs, Trump throws bombs back. They just ain't used to that. They can't adjust, so they double down. Then Trump doubles down. I love watching it. Liberals got so used to setting the rules; they get to attack while their opposition (like Trump) has to act all "presidential" and take it. Well, Homey don't play that game. He fires back. BTW; the polls said Trump didn't have a chance last time. Now we call him Mr. President.
Trump has been viciously attacking, mostly unprovoked (not completely, just mostly) from before he started (birther nonsense anyone). It is obvious to anyone who isnt completely blinded by their partisan beliefs that Trump is the aggressor here and has been from the start. He's defensive because he's guilty of a lot of things and pretty incompetent as a President.

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False equivalence. Congressional oversight is part of our system of checks and balances. The Ambassador works for the US government

it's a damn shame that posts like this have to be made.
 
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