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Who was a better leader Ian Smith or Robert Mugabe?

Who was a better leader Ian Smith or Robert Mugabe?

  • Ian Smith

    Votes: 10 71.4%
  • Robert Mugabe

    Votes: 3 21.4%
  • Other(Because why not)

    Votes: 1 7.1%

  • Total voters
    14

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Who was a better leader Ian Smith or Robert Mugabe?

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There's no need to rehash well known history. Depending on view your view the subject, either one or both of these of the guys could considered a asshole. But by the end of Mugabe's presidency even most Zimbabweans(that viewed him as a liberator from White rule) viewed him as a giant POS and some would even say the country was better under Smith's leadership.



This guy brings up a really good point, even though Rhodesia was under multiple sanctions and nearly destroyed by the end of civil war. Black Rhodesians lived a much better life then Black Zimbabweans.



The audio kind of sucks but you can still make out what she says. She was part "black liberation movement" and she even says were better under Smith's rule:lamo



Ian Smith has sadly been proved right - Telegraph

What say you fine citizens?
 
FFS, between these two who cares?
 
Which is tastier. A turd sandwich or vomit soup?
 
This thread will end well.
 
“Help me haul wood”, said Albert Schweizer. to a Rhodesian “I do not haul wood. I am in intellectual.”
 
Mugabe was better
 
Mr. Smith was a better leader.

There was more democracy under his leadership.

There was more economic prosperity under his leadership.

There was more adherence to the law under his leadership.

The people in that country made a tragic mistake, in my opinion, in supporting Mr. Mugabe's taking over the government.

Of course, many people in many countries have made the same mistake. People do NOT necessarily do what is in their best interest.
 
FFS, between these two who cares?

Oh, you know...the yay white folks, **** black folks crowd.

Basehead's on a roll today. Just lol'd at his other thread, where he puts holocaust in scare quotes.
 
Oh, you know...the yay white folks, **** black folks crowd.

I'm sorry you feel that way about "black folks" as you call them..

Basehead's on a roll today.

Why thank you.

Just lol'd at his other thread, where he puts holocaust in scare quotes.

That's what you took away from that thread? Holy ****, Canadian schools must be much worst than American schools.

O' Canada...
 
Mr. Smith was a better leader.

There was more democracy under his leadership.

There was more economic prosperity under his leadership.

There was more adherence to the law under his leadership.

This is all very true.

The people in that country made a tragic mistake, in my opinion, in supporting Mr. Mugabe's taking over the government.

Of course, many people in many countries have made the same mistake. People do NOT necessarily do what is in their best interest.

I blame the communist/Marxist educators teaching at the African Universities, for poising the black liberation movement. The British/Dutch settlers built those countries and advanced the native population 100's of years from the stone age. Sure, the governments could be considered douchie but the course of action for the native Africans was to work with them. Instead of blaming whitey for all their problems and forcing the goverments to relinquish control to self-serving dictators.
 
I'm sorry you feel that way about "black folks" as you call them..



Why thank you.



That's what you took away from that thread? Holy ****, Canadian schools must be much worst than American schools.

O' Canada...

Aww, shucks, Basehead, don't be embarrassed and moody now. You were full of piss and vinegar when you wrote it it in the first place. Own that ugly!
 
Politically correct answer is Mugabe. Even if Mugabe would be hundred times much worst he would be nevertheless a clear favorite.The 'right' skin color mutters.
 
Mr. Smith was a better leader.

There was more democracy under his leadership.

There was more economic prosperity under his leadership.

There was more adherence to the law under his leadership.

The people in that country made a tragic mistake, in my opinion, in supporting Mr. Mugabe's taking over the government.

Of course, many people in many countries have made the same mistake. People do NOT necessarily do what is in their best interest.

:lamo

Funny how there was none of that for the vast majority of the actual “Rhodesians”.

The country was under its own brutal form of apartheid, a tyrannical system which was every bit as bad as Jim Crow in the South....and in a lot of respects worse because the South Africans and “Rhodesians” were willing to do just about anything to preserve it.
 
I'm sorry you feel that way about "black folks" as you call them..



Why thank you.



That's what you took away from that thread? Holy ****, Canadian schools must be much worst than American schools.

O' Canada...

That was literally the entire operating procedure of “Rhodesia” in the first place.

They ****ed over and exploited the natives for the benefit of the white settlers.

Just like South Africa they had their own nasty form of apartheid, and they clung to it until force of arms forced them to admit defeat.
 
De Jure Smith was worse due to the racist laws where a majority of the population had no legal status in determining the laws and the government

de Facto Mugabe was worse. It was a dictatorship Rhodesia was a net food producer in Africa, Zimbabwe has been an economic disaster.

Rhodesia was racist but well run and civilized-albeit blacks were at BEST second class citizens, though black soldiers fighting for Rhodesia were treated pretty well. Zimbabwe is a complete mess.
 
That was literally the entire operating procedure of “Rhodesia” in the first place.

They ****ed over and exploited the natives for the benefit of the white settlers.

Just like South Africa they had their own nasty form of apartheid, and they clung to it until force of arms forced them to admit defeat.

force of arms didn't overcome the UDI, rather it was white nations' pressure. The RLI was killing 10-14 terrorists/rebels/freedom fighters, for every soldier they lost.
 
Excerpt from 'Requim for Rhodesia' by Carlos Porter- recommended reading

It is one of the only two countries in the world which declared their independence from Britain illegally. The other
one is having a holiday tJuly 4th! The United States
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Rhodesia under Smith was the 'Breadbasket of Africa" under Mugabe Zimbabwe has become the 'basket case of Africa!
 
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How ironic: Mentioned in a 1964 book by Donald Horne the “The Lucky Country”

1) LUCKY AUSTRALIA - A mass migration of mostly lower-class white convicts and “ten pound poms” created a white majority in a black country.

2) UNLUCKY RHODESIA - Refused to accept convicts, preferring better class free and paying settlers, thus greatly limiting its human population.
As a result it is now reaping the whirlwind of black tyranny..!
 
force of arms didn't overcome the UDI, rather it was white nations' pressure. The RLI was killing 10-14 terrorists/rebels/freedom fighters, for every soldier they lost.

The pro- apartheid Rhodesians were faced with a war which they couldn’t win, to the point where they rapidly started scraping the barrel. Due to their policies they were faced with numerous hostile neighbors who they fought a number of skirmishes with. They were at the point of actively using chemical and biological weapons in a desperate attempt to try and cut off the anti-apartheid fighters’ supply lines.

The Rhodesian economy was totally unable to handle the strain of the war effort and Rhodesian civilian morale was in the toilet. Quite simply put, due to their own despicable ideology they were never able to actually smash the forces fighting against them in any meaningful way.
 
Excerpt from 'Requim for Rhodesia' by Carlos Porter- recommended reading

It is one of the only two countries in the world which declared their independence from Britain illegally. The other
one is having a holiday tJuly 4th! The United States
################################################################
Rhodesia under Smith was the 'Breadbasket of Africa" under Mugabe Zimbabwe has become the 'basket case of Africa!

Rhodesia was already a basket case under Smith. Their desperation to cling to apartheid doomed them from the get go....but I’m not surprised they remain one of the Klan’s favorite “regimes”
 
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