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Who was a better leader Ian Smith or Robert Mugabe?

Who was a better leader Ian Smith or Robert Mugabe?

  • Ian Smith

    Votes: 10 71.4%
  • Robert Mugabe

    Votes: 3 21.4%
  • Other(Because why not)

    Votes: 1 7.1%

  • Total voters
    14
How ironic: Mentioned in a 1964 book by Donald Horne the “The Lucky Country”

1) LUCKY AUSTRALIA - A mass migration of mostly lower-class white convicts and “ten pound poms” created a white majority in a black country.

2) UNLUCKY RHODESIA - Refused to accept convicts, preferring better class free and paying settlers, thus greatly limiting its human population.
As a result it is now reaping the whirlwind of black tyranny..!

It’s “human population”.

Wow.

There’s blatant, and then there’s that, which practically hammers you in the head with its stupidity.

But not sure why I expected anything else from you.
 
Rhodesia was already a basket case under Smith. Their desperation to cling to apartheid doomed them from the get go....but I’m not surprised they remain one of the Klan’s favorite “regimes”

Nice of you to take a few minutes from your Antifa duties to chime in on this thread.
 
but I’m not surprised they remain one of the Klan’s favorite “regimes”
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Mass unemployment and systemic dysfunction are okay as long as they're "socially just" mass unemployment and systemic dysfunction.
 
Mass unemployment and systemic dysfunction are okay as long as they're "socially just" mass unemployment and systemic dysfunction.


Ian Smith’s apartheid state certainly was quite dysfunctional.

And virulently racist to boot.

The natives of “Rhodesia” were prevented from voting as much as possible, heavily restricted where they could live, amongst numerous other methods aimed at keeping them down.

But I forgot....to people like you, that’s a plus, not a negative.
 
Nice of you to take a few minutes from your Antifa duties to chime in on this thread.


Always amusing to watch the Klansmen falling all over each other to defend apartheid.

Hardly surprising either given that Dylann Roof was a Rhodesia fanboy.
 
The pro- apartheid Rhodesians were faced with a war which they couldn’t win, to the point where they rapidly started scraping the barrel. Due to their policies they were faced with numerous hostile neighbors who they fought a number of skirmishes with. They were at the point of actively using chemical and biological weapons in a desperate attempt to try and cut off the anti-apartheid fighters’ supply lines.

The Rhodesian economy was totally unable to handle the strain of the war effort and Rhodesian civilian morale was in the toilet. Quite simply put, due to their own despicable ideology they were never able to actually smash the forces fighting against them in any meaningful way.

as I noted, it was white European nations boycotts etc that was the reason Rhodesia lost, not the military
 
as I noted, it was white European nations boycotts etc that was the reason Rhodesia lost, not the military

Except, as I already said, the vile ideology of the “Rhodesians” sucked them into a forever war that they could not win. The white Europeans had been opposing Rhodesia for substantial amounts of time, but it was the guerrillas’ actions—-and the collapse of European rule in places like Mozambique—-which doomed them.

Why White Supremacists Identify With Rhodesia - War Is Boring - Medium

“The rebels targeted the regime where it was weakest, such as propaganda and economic warfare. One of the biggest rebel victories was a 1978 rocket attack on Rhodesia’s strategic oil reserve. The rockets hit the fuel tanks in Salisbury, today Harare, wiping out the reserve in a single blow. Rhodesia capitulated a few months later.”
 
as I noted, it was white European nations boycotts etc that was the reason Rhodesia lost, not the military


Sadly that was he case. Kissinger hammered the final nail in the coffin of Rhodesia. Nixon & Kissinger were IMO the greatest foreign policy
administrators in my lifetime but this was a black mark on mostly brilliant foreign policy achievements.
 
Always amusing to watch the Klansmen falling all over each other to defend apartheid.

Hardly surprising either given that Dylann Roof was a Rhodesia fanboy.

Do you have a chart that indicates that it is time for some more of your head scratching nonsense?

Your crippled by bias & hatred, no responsible lawyer would ever include you in a jury to judge these matters!

"exploited" Africans line up to vote for majority rule, 1979, followed, in many cases, by emigration to Britain or flight to South Africa.
The "majority" today would probably emigrate anywhere they could, now that they have their "rule”.
 
Do you have a chart that indicates that it is time for some more of your head scratching nonsense?

Your crippled by bias & hatred, no responsible lawyer would ever include you in a jury to judge these matters!

"exploited" Africans line up to vote for majority rule, 1979, followed, in many cases, by emigration to Britain or flight to South Africa.
The "majority" today would probably emigrate anywhere they could, now that they have their "rule”.

Yes, I get that to a klansman like yourself the idea that people who despise living under a tyrannical white supremacist state would be “baffling”

“Waah! The other poster hates white supremacist thugs! Waah!”:roll:

People were fleeing Ian Smith’s little open air prison camp for years before they finally gave up the ghost.

Rhodesia, apartheid South Africa and the Congo “Free State” are perfect examples of the kind of hellholes which develop whenvknf allows white supremacists to run countries.
 
Yes, I get that to a klansman like yourself the idea that people who despise living under a tyrannical white supremacist state would be “baffling”

“Waah! The other poster hates white supremacist thugs! Waah!”:roll:

People were fleeing Ian Smith’s little open air prison camp for years before they finally gave up the ghost.

Rhodesia, apartheid South Africa and the Congo “Free State” are perfect examples of the kind of hellholes which develop whenvknf allows white supremacists to run countries.

Got it wrong again, not surprising. The 'destruction of prosperous societies' that I am aware of those in Rhodesia, South Africa
& Venezuela were definitely not caused by what you call 'white supremacy' those prosperous societies were actually created by
white statesmen and were destroyed by an ill equipped non-white majority who now after that damage would take back their votes
if they could in these states where democracy failed.
 
Got it wrong again, not surprising. The 'destruction of prosperous societies' that I am aware of those in Rhodesia, South Africa
& Venezuela were definitely not caused by what you call 'white supremacy' those prosperous societies were actually created by
white statesmen and were destroyed by an ill equipped non-white majority who now after that damage would take back their votes
if they could in these states where democracy failed.

It was the fanatical defense of apartheid by the Rhodesian thugs which allowed Mugabe to rise to power in the first place. The Rhodesian economy could not handle the strain of a forever war, which was directly caused by the idiotic policies of the Rhodesian “state”. The anti apartheid fighters only grew in strength as time went on and the Rhodesian “state” proved unable to crush them.

White supremacist thugs ran both Rhodesia and South Africa completely into the ground. It only goes to show the greatness of Nelson Mandela that he was able to keep things together after decades of brutal oppression.
 
It was the fanatical defense of apartheid by the Rhodesian thugs which allowed Mugabe to rise to power in the first place. The Rhodesian economy could not handle the strain of a forever war, which was directly caused by the idiotic policies of the Rhodesian “state”. The anti apartheid fighters only grew in strength as time went on and the Rhodesian “state” proved unable to crush them.

White supremacist thugs ran both Rhodesia and South Africa completely into the ground. It only goes to show the greatness of Nelson Mandela that he was able to keep things together after decades of brutal oppression.

When you receive your monthly ANC progress report do they include dates when Julius Malema rallies the faithful touring the country
calling for nationalization of private businesses & singing his theme song 'Kill the Boer"

Your posts reveal that Julius Malema is your type of guy, your idea of a genuine leader.
Julius Malema called on his followers to go after the white man and cut the throat of whiteness.

A while back Julius Malema accused Jews and right-wingers of training snipers to try to stop the
government’s land grab from white farmers, he then told white people he won’t kill them… At least not yet!

Israel National News | Israel's #1 News Site › All News › Foreign Affairs

Majority of South Africans now say that it was better under apartheid.

BusinessTech...
"A new [2015] poll finds that fewer South Africans believe that life has improved since 1994, than those who believe that
life was better before the ANC government took over." "less than four in 10 citizens (37%) believe that these conditions are “better”
than in 1994, while six in 10 (62%) say they have either stayed the same or deteriorated.”

Try to understand how anti-democrats dispossess democrats in diverse societies when democracy empowers an
ethnic majority over a more capable ethnic minority. In diverse societies democracy becomes a toxic cocktail!
As a 19th century Frenchman first explained 'When I am the weaker I ask you for my freedom because that is
your principle; but when I am the stronger I take away your freedom because that is my principle.'

Wikiquote › wiki › Louis_Veuillot

give it up! I’ve literally done nothing but thrash your deceptive trash whenever we've clashed horns?
 
When you receive your monthly ANC progress report do they include dates when Julius Malema rallies the faithful touring the country
calling for nationalization of private businesses & singing his theme song 'Kill the Boer



BusinessTech...


Try to understand how anti-democrats dispossess democrats in diverse societies when democracy empowers an
ethnic majority over a you for

Wikiquote › wiki › Louis_Veuillot

give it up! I’ve literally done nothing but thrash your deceptive trash whenever we've clashed horns?

You’ve certainly demonstrated how laughably delusional you are, on multiple levels.

Apartheid - Wikipedia

Julius Malema is downright mild compared to the thugs who ran South Africa for decades. Considering that interracial marriage was banned, millions of non white South Africans were forced from their homes into “Bantustans” in order to try and limit their rights even more.....it goes on and on.

“The first grand apartheid law was the Population Registration Act of 1950, which formalised racial classification and introduced an identity card for all persons over the age of 18, specifying their racial group.[48] Official teams or boards were established to come to a conclusion on those people whose race was unclear.[49] This caused difficulty, especially for Coloured people, separating their families when members were allocated different races.[50]

The second pillar of grand apartheid was the Group Areas Act of 1950.[51] Until then, most settlements had people of different races living side by side. This Act put an end to diverse areas and determined where one lived according to race. Each race was allotted its own area, which was used in later years as a basis of forced removal.[52] The Prevention of Illegal Squatting Act of 1951 allowed the government to demolish black shanty town slums and forced white employers to pay for the construction of housing for those black workers who were permitted to reside in cities otherwise reserved for whites.[53]

The Prohibition of Mixed Marriages Act of 1949 prohibited marriage between persons of different races, and the Immorality Act of 1950 made sexual relations with a person of a different race a criminal offence.

Under the Reservation of Separate Amenities Act of 1953, municipal grounds could be reserved for a particular race, creating, among other things, separate beaches, buses, hospitals, schools and universities. Signboards such as "whites only" applied to public areas, even including park benches.[54] Black South Africans were provided with services greatly inferior to those of whites, and, to a lesser extent, to those of Indian and Coloured people.[55]”

“The 1956 law allowed Coloureds to elect four people to Parliament, but a 1969 law abolished those seats and stripped Coloureds of their right to vote. Since Asians had never been allowed to vote, this resulted in whites being the sole enfranchised group.”

“Blacks were not allowed to run businesses or professional practices in areas designated as "white South Africa" unless they had a permit - such being granted only exceptionally. They were required to move to the black "homelands" and set up businesses and practices there. Transport and civil facilities were segregated. Trains, hospitals and ambulances were segregated.[88] Because of the smaller numbers of white patients and the fact that white doctors preferred to work in white hospitals, conditions in white hospitals were much better than those in often overcrowded and understaffed, significantly underfunded black hospitals.[89] Residential areas were segregated and blacks were only allowed to live in white areas if employed as a servant and even then only in servants quarters. Blacks were excluded from working in white areas, unless they had a pass, nicknamed the dompas, also spelt dompass or dom pass. The most likely origin of this name is from the Afrikaans "verdomde pas" (meaning accursed pass),[90] although some commentators ascribe it to the Afrikaans words meaning "dumb pass". Only blacks with "Section 10" rights (those who had migrated to the cities before World War II) were excluded from this provision. A pass was issued only to a black with approved work. Spouses and children had to be left behind in black homelands. A pass was issued for one magisterial district (usually one town) confining the holder to that area only. Being without a valid pass made a person subject to arrest and trial for being an illegal migrant. This was often followed by deportation to the person's homeland and prosecution of the employer for employing an illegal migrant. Police vans patrolled white areas to round up blacks without passes. Blacks were not allowed to employ whites in white South Africa.[91]”
 
When you receive your monthly ANC progress report do they include dates when Julius Malema rallies the faithful touring the country
calling for nationalization of private businesses & singing his theme song 'Kill the Boer"

Your posts reveal that Julius Malema is your type of guy, your idea of a genuine leader.
Julius Malema called on his followers to go after the white man and cut the throat of whiteness.

A while back Julius Malema accused Jews and right-wingers of training snipers to try to stop the
government’s land grab from white farmers, he then told white people he won’t kill them… At least not yet!

Israel National News | Israel's #1 News Site › All News › Foreign Affairs

Majority of South Africans now say that it was better under apartheid

Try to understand how anti-democrats dispossess democrats in diverse societies when democracy empowers an
ethnic majority over a more capable ethnic minority. In diverse societies democracy becomes a toxic cocktail!
As a 19th century Frenchman first explained 'When I am the weaker I ask you for my freedom because that is
your principle; but when I am the stronger I take away your freedom because that is my principle.'

Wikiquote › wiki › Louis_Veuillot

give it up! I’ve literally done nothing but thrash your deceptive trash whenever we've clashed horns?

Not only that, both apartheid South Africa and Rhodesia were laughably incompetent; their fanatical defense of white supremacist ideology only meant that they were drawn into a unwinnable war against an opponent who took everything they could hurl at them and kept striking back.

Project Coast - Wikipedia

“Project Coast claimed its first victims at the end of 1982, when "Operation Duel" was launched, which aimed to eliminate hundreds of SWAPO prisoners and SADF informants. Col. Johan Theron, counterintelligence officer in the Special Forces, testified at the Basson trial that he received muscle relaxant pills from Basson in December 1982, and killed approximately 200 SWAPO prisoners, then dumped their bodies from aeroplanes out to sea.”

“Research on birth control methods to reduce the black birth rate was one such area. Daan Goosen, the managing director of Roodeplaat Research Laboratories between 1983 and 1986, told Tom Mangold of the BBC that Project Coast supported a project to develop a contraceptive that would have been applied clandestinely to blacks. Goosen reported that the project had developed a vaccine for males and females and that the researchers were still searching for a means by which it could be delivered to make blacks sterile without making them aware. Testimony given at the Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) suggested that Project Coast researchers were also looking into putting birth control substances in water supplies.[8][9]”

“Civil Cooperation Bureau operative Petrus Jacobus Botes (who claimed to have also directed bureau operations in Mozambique and Swaziland) asserted that he was ordered in May 1989, to contaminate the water supply at Dobra, a refugee camp located in Namibia, with cholera and yellow fever organisms. A South African Army doctor provided them to him. In late August 1989, he led an attempt to contaminate the water supply. The attempt failed because of the high chlorine content in the treated water at the camp.[7]”
 
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Not only that, both apartheid South Africa and Rhodesia were laughably incompetent; their fanatical defense of white supremacist ideology only meant that they were drawn into a unwinnable war against an opponent who took everything they could hurl at them and kept striking back.

Project Coast - Wikipedia

“Project Coast claimed its first victims at the end of 1982, when "Operation Duel" was launched, which aimed to eliminate hundreds of SWAPO prisoners and SADF informants. Col. Johan Theron, counterintelligence officer in the Special Forces, testified at the Basson trial that he received muscle relaxant pills from Basson in December 1982, and killed approximately 200 SWAPO prisoners, then dumped their bodies from aeroplanes out to sea.”

“Research on birth control methods to reduce the black birth rate was one such area. Daan Goosen, the managing director of Roodeplaat Research Laboratories between 1983 and 1986, told Tom Mangold of the BBC that Project Coast supported a project to develop a contraceptive that would have been applied clandestinely to blacks. Goosen reported that the project had developed a vaccine for males and females and that the researchers were still searching for a means by which it could be delivered to make blacks sterile without making them aware. Testimony given at the Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) suggested that Project Coast researchers were also looking into putting birth control substances in water supplies.[8][9]”

“Civil Cooperation Bureau operative Petrus Jacobus Botes (who claimed to have also directed bureau operations in Mozambique and Swaziland) asserted that he was ordered in May 1989, to contaminate the water supply at Dobra, a refugee camp located in Namibia, with cholera and yellow fever organisms. A South African Army doctor provided them to him. In late August 1989, he led an attempt to contaminate the water supply. The attempt failed because of the high chlorine content in the treated water at the camp.[7]”

This is your suppossed argument that indigenous peoples were better off under Mugabe than Ian Smith. I wish I had a a suggestion as
I'm someone who wants you to raise your game. Cant go much lower. Even your fellow social justice enthusiasts realize Zimbabwe
was a disaster under Mugabe. You're suppossed to notice stuff like that. If this was an attempt at contradiction it's a very poor
unskillful attempt to do so.

Majority of South Africans now say that it was better under apartheid.

BusinessTech...
"A new [2015] poll finds that fewer South Africans believe that life has improved since 1994, than those who believe that
life was better before the ANC government took over." "less than four in 10 citizens (37%) believe that these conditions are “better”
than in 1994, while six in 10 (62%) say they have either stayed the same or deteriorated.”

CASE CLOSED, I figured it was about time for you to start bitching about white people again, thus your peculiar analysis
concerning whose to blame over the tragic failure of Zimbabwe since Mugabe took over. Almost as soon as Mugabe was
at the helm a campaign of terror was waged against the Ndebele people in Matabeleland in western Zimbabwe where more
than 30,000 black civilians of different tribal allegiance were killed by Robert Mugabe’s feared Fifth Brigade.

Joshua Nkomo, represented the main obstacle. Zapu enjoyed overwhelming support among the Ndebele and was seen as
an impediment by the leadership of Zanu-PF. In the words of Mugabe, the people of Matabeleland needed to be “re-educated.
Documents appear to provide evidence that the massacres were but one component of a sustained and strategic effort to remove
all political opposition within five years of independence. Zanu-PF leaders were determined to secure a “victory” against a non-existent
opposition in elections scheduled for 1985, after which there would be a “mandate” from the people to impose a one-party state.

The western response to violence against Mugabe's black countrymen in the 1980s was a pale shadow of the reaction to attacks
on white farmers in 2000. Many Ndebele remain bitter about this inconsistency.

I realize Mugabe is tops with you but is he more worthy of your praise than the Algerian Arab leader President Houari Boumediene.
Afterall Boumediene was the prophet of the demise of whiteness:

'One day, millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because
they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory.'
 
This is your suppossed argument that indigenous peoples were better off under Mugabe than Ian Smith. I wish I had a a suggestion as
I'm someone who wants you to raise your game. Cant go much lower. Even your fellow social justice enthusiasts realize Zimbabwe
was a disaster under Mugabe. You're suppossed to notice stuff like that. If this was an attempt at contradiction it's a very poor
unskillful attempt to do so.

Majority of South Africans now say that it was better under apartheid.

BusinessTech...
"A new [2015] poll finds that fewer South Africans believe that life has improved since 1994, than those who believe that
life was better before the ANC government took over." "less than four in 10 citizens (37%) believe that these conditions are “better”
than in 1994, while six in 10 (62%) say they have either stayed the same or deteriorated.”

CASE CLOSED, I figured it was about time for you to start bitching about white people again, thus your peculiar analysis
concerning whose to blame over the tragic failure of Zimbabwe since Mugabe took over. Almost as soon as Mugabe was
at the helm a campaign of terror was waged against the Ndebele people in Matabeleland in western Zimbabwe where more
than 30,000 black civilians of different tribal allegiance were killed by Robert Mugabe’s feared Fifth Brigade.

Joshua Nkomo, represented the main obstacle. Zapu enjoyed overwhelming support among the Ndebele and was seen as
an impediment by the leadership of Zanu-PF. In the words of Mugabe, the people of Matabeleland needed to be “re-educated.
Documents appear to provide evidence that the massacres were but one component of a sustained and strategic effort to remove
all political opposition within five years of independence. Zanu-PF leaders were determined to secure a “victory” against a non-existent
opposition in elections scheduled for 1985, after which there would be a “mandate” from the people to impose a one-party state.

The western response to violence against Mugabe's black countrymen in the 1980s was a pale shadow of the reaction to attacks
on white farmers in 2000. Many Ndebele remain bitter about this inconsistency.

I realize Mugabe is tops with you but is he more worthy of your praise than the Algerian Arab leader President Houari Boumediene.
Afterall Boumediene was the prophet of the demise of whiteness:

'One day, millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because
they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory.'

As I said before, had the apartheid thugs not been so fanatically desperate to preserve a despicable white suprematist ideology, Mugabe likely never would have risen to power. And if you can’t face the fact that trying to forcibly sterilized the native population of South Africa is deeply evil, you are even more despicable than I previously thought.....and the bar for that had already been set at about two inches above the ground.

Oh look, you still haven’t provided a working link, or any evidence of the methodology of the poll.....for example, who they specifically asked . But yes, I get that you are dumb enough to consider that “case closed”.

Which is literally no different than the campaigns of terror waged against the native people of Zimbabwe by the Rhodesian thugs for decades. As I have repeatedly shown.

Please provide evidence of me saying Mugabe was “the tops” or anything other than the destruction of the scum sucking apartheid regimes, which brutally oppressed their own people for decades, was a good thing. It is a testimony to the greatness of Nelson Mandela that the country held together after decades of tyranny and oppression.

Wow, you Klansmen are truly pathetic. I do think it’s ****ing hilarious that your reaction to the murder of hundreds of prisoners, an attempt at mass sterilization and an attempt to use biological and chemical weapons is “no big deal” and then a rant about how “whiteness” is going to die.
 
As I said before, had the apartheid thugs not been so fanatically desperate to preserve a despicable white suprematist ideology, Mugabe likely never would have risen to power. And if you can’t face the fact that trying to forcibly sterilized the native population of South Africa is deeply evil, you are even more despicable than I previously thought.....and the bar for that had already been set at about two inches above the ground.

Oh look, you still haven’t provided a working link, or any evidence of the methodology of the poll.....for example, who they specifically asked . But yes, I get that you are dumb enough to consider that “case closed”.

Which is literally no different than the campaigns of terror waged against the native people of Zimbabwe by the Rhodesian thugs for decades. As I have repeatedly shown.

Please provide evidence of me saying Mugabe was “the tops” or anything other than the destruction of the scum sucking apartheid regimes, which brutally oppressed their own people for decades, was a good thing. It is a testimony to the greatness of Nelson Mandela that the country held together after decades of tyranny and oppression.

Wow, you Klansmen are truly pathetic. I do think it’s ****ing hilarious that your reaction to the murder of hundreds of prisoners, an attempt at mass sterilization and an attempt to use biological and chemical weapons is “no big deal” and then a rant about how “whiteness” is going to die.

Don't be silly. More blacks were tortured & killed in the 1st 6 years of Mugabe rule, than in the entire 15 years of Smith Rhodesia
as Mugabe eliminated all black opposition in order to erect his one party state.
And when Smith battled the rebels he had more blacks in his forces than whites at times during the rebellion.

What is to be remembered is that Rhodesia once the breadbasket of Africa, after the one man, one vote,
one time event in late last century led to the Zimbabwe rule of Mugabe and the breadbasket of Africa became the
cesspool of Africa. That my final statement on this matter. I as usual feel I'm knee deep in midgets dealing with you again,
tired of wasting time!
 
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Don't be silly. More blacks were tortured & killed in the 1st 6 years of Mugabe rule, than in the entire 15 years of Smith Rhodesia
as Mugabe eliminated all black opposition in order to erect his one party state.
And when Smith battled the rebels he had more blacks in his forces than whites at times during the rebellion.

What is to be remembered is that Rhodesia once the breadbasket of Africa, after the one man, one vote,
one time event in late last century led to the Zimbabwe rule of Mugabe and the breadbasket of Africa became the
cesspool of Africa. That my final statement on this matter. I as usual feel I'm knee deep in midgets dealing with you again,
tired of wasting time!


Oh look, the Klansman is fleeing with his tail between his legs......again.

Just like your confederate heroes who got their asses whooped time and again.

Yes, and there were plenty of Slavs amongst the Ostruppen as well, but that doesn’t mean that they were well treated either in the military or in society at large. Considering that I have extensively documented apartheid legislations and restrictions throughout this thread it’s laughably clear that you are desperately grasping at straws.


I see you desperately ignored the atrocities committed by the apartheid forces.....typical.

The rise of Mugabe and everything he did was the direct result of the stupidity and brutality of the white supremacist thugs running Rhodesia, who sucked their country into an unwinnable war to preserve a vile ideology. Everywhere white supremacists are allowed to running things they leave countries in ruins and societies devastated. Your ideology failed miserably in South Africa and Rhodesia, as it had failed across the globe. And good riddance.
 
Oh look, the Klansman is fleeing with his tail between his legs......again.

Just like your confederate heroes who got their asses whooped time and again.

Yes, and there were plenty of Slavs amongst the Ostruppen as well, but that doesn’t mean that they were well treated either in the military or in society at large. Considering that I have extensively documented apartheid legislations and restrictions throughout this thread it’s laughably clear that you are desperately grasping at straws.


I see you desperately ignored the atrocities committed by the apartheid forces.....typical.

The rise of Mugabe and everything he did was the direct result of the stupidity and brutality of the white supremacist thugs running Rhodesia, who sucked their country into an unwinnable war to preserve a vile ideology. Everywhere white supremacists are allowed to running things they leave countries in ruins and societies devastated. Your ideology failed miserably in South Africa and Rhodesia, as it had failed across the globe. And good riddance.

The thread concerns Who was a better leader Ian Smith or Robert Mugabe?
Your response is peculiar especially for a social justice enthusiast.
Mugabe wwas hardly the poster boy for social justice

Another clumsy response. Equating atrocities committed by the Smith's Rhodesian militia
in order to squash a rebellion to the death of some 30,000 blacks by the newly formed
Zimbabwe govt. under Mugabe just because those innocent citizens of the newly formed govt.
happened to be of a different tribe.

The massacres were part of a sustained effort to remove all political opposition within five years.
Mugabe & his partners in crime were determined to secure a “victory” in the most egregious
& sinister way ever devised to impose a one-party state.

Rhodesia which was led by a white minority for decades was permanently damaged when
Mugabe swept to a landslide victory by arousing the political consciousness of indiginous blacks
who comprised over 90% of the population. The awakening of the destitute based on ethnic
populism lead to 30 years of Zimbabwe's neverending tragic situation.

Riding shotgun for Mugabe I suggest puts you in a dreadful light with entire segments of
SJW advocates, not that I care but continue to sluggishly motor on.

Not the worst of you historical contributions but a solid second to your appraisal of why
the 'Wizard of the Saddle' black friends paid homage to his passsing flocking in historic
numbers over 2,000 demolishing the myth that contemporaneous blacks hated Forrest.

Maybe you have forgotten or perhaps even more likely the intensity of your contemptible bias was on display
when you posted your interpretation of why thousands of newly freed African-Americans appreciated Forrest
to the extent that some traveled miles to attend his funeral.

Do you recall how you sized up the noble gestures of Forrest’s many well-wishers, here goes:

'The blacks knew if they didn't show up at Forrest's funeral they'd have a mob of thugs on their doorstep.’

If that post isn’t evidence of a miserable fanatical scribbler then I don’t know what is!

You have the lowest value to post ratio of anyone alive! Nobody is even in the same realm!
 
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The thread concerns Who was a better leader Ian Smith or Robert Mugabe?
Your response is peculiar especially for a social justice enthusiast.
Mugabe wwas hardly the poster boy for social justice

Another clumsy response. Equating atrocities committed by the Smith's Rhodesian militia
in order to squash a rebellion to the death of some 30,000 blacks by the newly formed
Zimbabwe govt. under Mugabe just because those innocent citizens of the newly formed govt.
happened to be of a different tribe.

The massacres were part of a sustained effort to remove all political opposition within five years.
Mugabe & his partners in crime were determined to secure a “victory” in the most egregious
& sinister way ever devised to impose a one-party state.

Rhodesia which was led by a white minority for decades was permanently damaged when
Mugabe swept to a landslide victory by arousing the political consciousness of indiginous blacks
who comprised over 90% of the population. The awakening of the destitute based on ethnic
populism lead to 30 years of Zimbabwe's neverending tragic situation.

Riding shotgun for Mugabe I suggest puts you in a dreadful light with entire segments of
SJW advocates, not that I care but continue to sluggishly motor on.

Not the worst of you historical contributions but a solid second to your appraisal of why
the 'Wizard of the Saddle' black friends paid homage to his passsing flocking in historic
numbers over 2,000 demolishing the myth that contemporaneous blacks hated Forrest.

Maybe you have forgotten or perhaps even more likely the intensity of your contemptible bias was on display
when you posted your interpretation of why thousands of newly freed African-Americans appreciated Forrest
to the extent that some traveled miles to attend his funeral.

Do you recall how you sized up the noble gestures of Forrest’s many well-wishers, here goes:

'The blacks knew if they didn't show up at Forrest's funeral they'd have a mob of thugs on their doorstep.’

If that post isn’t evidence of a miserable fanatical scribbler then I don’t know what is!

You have the lowest value to post ratio of anyone alive! Nobody is even in the same realm!

So much for your last unhinged rant being your “final statement” :lamo

Ian Smith and the Rhodesian thugs directly lead to Robert Mugabe rising to power in the first place. If they had accepted the end of apartheid even five years earlier it is likely Mugabe would not have taken power. It was the fanatical stupidity of the “Rhodesians” which enabled him to come to power in the first place.


Oh, so now we are full on into justifying the atrocities committed by Smith instead of just ignoring them. The Smith regime committed its atrocities simply because the civilians they targeted had the same skin color as those who fought against apartheid, and that is every bit as bad as killing someone over tribal loyalties.

I hate to break to to you but the Rhodesian apartheid regime cracked down hard on political dissent for years. Just as it was your beloved terrorist cohorts who rampaged through city after city across the South murdering unarmed civilians. A terrorist group entourage slaver hero had embraced for years. And yes, your fellow klansmen absolutely would have gone on the rampage at the slightest excuse. They did it numerous times over the years.

Considering that your posts have exactly zero value, your posturing is rather funny :lamo

Maybe someday you’ll figure out that it’s not a minority’s fault you are such a pathetic waste of oxygen, but I doubt it.
 
I voted for Ian Smith.
 
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