View Poll Results: When will equal rights for sexual orientation be nationally protected?

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    Re: Sexual Orientation, the countdown to equal rights, when will it happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by BrotherFease View Post
    No, it's not about "special protection", but to protect all sexual orientations from discrimination. I agree that nobody gets special rights. The 14th amendment was passed in order to protect black people, but in reality, it was there to protect everybody. Nobody is going to argue that black people were asking for "special rights". They were asking for equal rights. Same with today.
    BINGO!!!!

    always funny how its "special rights" when its a group somebody doesnt agree with or approve of etc
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    Re: Sexual Orientation, the countdown to equal rights, when will it happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    BINGO!!!!

    always funny how its "special rights" when its a group somebody doesnt agree with or approve of etc
    Yep. It's pure straw man argumentation. In fact, the irony here is the people making these arguments are the ones in favor of special rights. Ben Carson argued against gay marriage under the guise that it creates special rights for gay people. But we was really arguing that straight couples getting special rights.

    Think of this theorem:

    Joe and Sue love each other and are consenting adults. They can sign a marriage license.
    Joe and Tom love each other and are consenting adults. They cannot sign a marriage license.

    What is the difference between Joe/Sue and Joe/Tom? Both love each other. Both are consenting adults. The difference is the fact that Joe and Sue are a straight couple, while Joe and Tom are a same-sex couple. Arguing that Joe and Sue can sign a marriage license is giving them special protections.

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    Re: Sexual Orientation, the countdown to equal rights, when will it happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Just need to wait for the old people to die.
    Need to wait for old people to die? FYI there will always be a new generation of replacement old people.

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    Re: Sexual Orientation, the countdown to equal rights, when will it happen?

    Ok, then we can list you as an age bigot. I wonder if you support euthanasia.

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Just need to wait for the old people to die.

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    Re: Sexual Orientation, the countdown to equal rights, when will it happen?

    Define equality. If one moves the goalposts and demands "historical equality", that's just another term for revenge.

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    When will equal rights for sexual orientation be nationally protected?

    0-2 years?
    3-5 years?
    6-8 years?
    9-10 years
    10+
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    LIke with equal marriage rights the road wasn't over night. While it was a great victory, one that i was so happy to witness with my own eyes more equal rights victories are happening all the time.

    Like i always said about equal marriage rights, there was a time when i thought it would never happen in my life time. Then that changed with a couple cases and bigots overstepping way too far helping equal rights spread. It was then i KNEW it would happen in my life time. Their persistent bigotry is what helped it! Try to force their views on others and treating them as lessers paved the way!

    Well now another injustice will be fixed in my live time and national protections for sexual orientation is on its way. My personal prediction is 2-6 years but at the most I say 10.

    Right now whether the discussion is about housing, employment or public accommodations at least 20 states protect sexual orientation already. Theres court cases with more on the way. Many major cities and or counties in side the states that dont do and the vast majority of 91% of fortune 500 companies. (83% for gender identity which is amazing considering it was only 3 in 2000)

    Movement Advancement Project | Non-Discrimination Laws
    LGBT employment discrimination in the United States - Wikipedia
    List of cities and counties in the United States offering an LGBT non-discrimination ordinance - Wikipedia
    LGBTQ Americans Aren't Fully Protected From Discrimination in 30 States | Freedom for All AmericansFreedom for All Americans
    http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-a...tion-laws.aspx

    #EqualRightsAreWinning

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    Re: Sexual Orientation, the countdown to equal rights, when will it happen?

    In other words, they are not yet royalty. The term you're looking for is "disadvantaged members of a protected class", otherwise you might inadvertently protect heterosexuals. Not only that if not carefully worded it could impede implementing hiring preferences for homosexuals.

    Quote Originally Posted by vegas giants View Post
    They are not a protected class

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    Re: Sexual Orientation, the countdown to equal rights, when will it happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by SDET View Post
    Define equality. If one moves the goalposts and demands "historical equality", that's just another term for revenge.
    Youll have to ask your question better because i have no idea what you dont understand if you read the OP and the poll question.

    Here, ill repost the question and you read it slower:

    "When will equal rights for sexual orientation be nationally protected?"
    This means sexual orientation will be protected under the term sex in civil rights

    Has nothign to do with "revenge", Let me know if you are still confused
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    Re: Sexual Orientation, the countdown to equal rights, when will it happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    This is interesting looks like some cases re coming up that could speed this up and make it a reality as soon as this year . . . . .

    Supreme Court to revisit gay rights in landmark workplace discrimination case

    seems theres 3 cases that could impact this really soon

    Altitude Express, Inc. v. Zarda
    Bostock v. Clayton Count Georgia
    R.G. and G.R. Funeral Homes v. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission,
    More info on this
    Court to mull transgender, gay rights in workplace - Portland Press Herald

    and this is exactly why equal rights is needed and why it will happen in my life time
    The gay rights movement has won victory after victory at the Supreme Court, capped by the landmark 2015 decision that established a constitutional right to same-sex marriage. But gay rights leaders say “married on Sunday, fired on Monday” is a possibility in more than half of the United States, where there is no specific protection for gay or transgender workers. The states that prohibit discrimination are not uniform – some protect only gender identity or transgender status, and some differentiate between public and private employment.

    The issue for the court is the reach of Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which, besides protecting against workplace discrimination because of race, also prohibits discrimination “because of sex.”
    in america there's no room for this type of vile bigotry and thank god it will be coming to an end in many regards as far as legality and protection is concerned in the near future.
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    Re: Sexual Orientation, the countdown to equal rights, when will it happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    Something that keeps puzzling me, the quest for equal rights but wanting to be recognized as needing special protection.
    When you get beat up and killed for being LGBQT even thought you are an American citizen...then, yeah, you need protection. When you are discriminated against because of your sexuality, then you need protection.

    If none of that was happening, then you would be correct, it would be a non-issue. But that IS happening. To American citizens. And the "special protections" are really just the demand to be treated equally. There's nothing special about that.

    What is special...is thinking that your fellow American isn't really American if they aren't like you and you take action to make sure that your fellow Americans know that.

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    Re: Sexual Orientation, the countdown to equal rights, when will it happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Warfield View Post
    When you get beat up and killed for being LGBQT even thought you are an American citizen...then, yeah, you need protection. When you are discriminated against because of your sexuality, then you need protection.

    If none of that was happening, then you would be correct, it would be a non-issue. But that IS happening. To American citizens. And the "special protections" are really just the demand to be treated equally. There's nothing special about that.

    What is special...is thinking that your fellow American isn't really American if they aren't like you and you take action to make sure that your fellow Americans know that.
    claims of special protections has and will always been a failed copped out. Its based on dishonesty and or ignorance and nobody educated and objective takes the failed claim seriously. NOBODY can ever support the failed claim, its always fun watching the handful try though.
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